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Arteris
Learned Scribe
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 Posted - 23 Dec 2003 : 22:45:06
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| Merry christmas to all and to all.. oh darn I forgot how it goes after that :oP |
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RogueAssassin
Learned Scribe
USA
207 Posts |
Posted - 24 Dec 2003 : 00:30:11
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He sat next to the chemny decorated with care in hope that St.nick soon would be there
but alas there would be no gifts this year...
he found only silence and saw nothing but black
as the rogueassassin slid its dagger out of his back...
and as the assassin left without a sound
the mans body slid slowly to the ground
a so struck into the hearts of all there is fear
from Rogueassassin merry christmas happy new year.
ok its pretty corny but seriously happy holidays |
"Spirit. Its a Heros strength, a mothers resiliance, and the poor mans armor. It cannot be broken and it cannot be taken away. This i must belive"---Drizzt Do'Urden |
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The Cardinal
Senior Scribe
Canada
647 Posts |
Posted - 24 Dec 2003 : 01:11:05
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| Bah! Humbug! |
It has to be Certain, the Gods Hate Me. For whatever irrevokable Fate, I have been made the walking Joke. Either that, or Beshaba is overlyfond Of Me.
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Fibura Gauntlet
Seeker
United Kingdom
50 Posts |
Posted - 24 Dec 2003 : 11:29:07
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Merry Christmas to everyone, especially you, Cardinal Deimos. Christmas wouldn't be the same without a Scrooge or two  Speaking of which, what's this topic doing in "General Forgotten Realms Chat"? It's got nothing to do with the Realms 
(ducks as a hail of Candlekeep's less precious tomes are thrown his way  ) |
- Fibura Gauntlet
A scrib(bl)e on the margins of Candlekeep |
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Ezindir the dark
Senior Scribe
Norway
603 Posts |
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mr.lee
Seeker
Norway
69 Posts |
Posted - 26 Dec 2003 : 16:53:29
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hey, guess what ezindir the dark just bought! hah!
he bought the badest of the games ever! the Lord Almighty
POOL of RADIANCE!!!! haha! what a loser. that must be the cheapest, slowest, most boring game ever! (that is INCLUDING Sierra® Flight Simulator™ 2001) hahahahahaha! happy xmas and a jolly new year!! hahahaha!!! ezindir is a loser! (sing-song-voice)"loser, loser, loser!!!! HAH!" |
If I'd wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was. |
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mr.lee
Seeker
Norway
69 Posts |
Posted - 27 Dec 2003 : 01:14:19
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aah, looking at what I wrote just now still brings back tears of delight into my eyes. hahaha! ezindir BOUGHT (sorry for swearing):
POOL OF RADIANCE™!!!!!!!!
hahahahaha!!!  ehehehe .....
aaah, it is wonderful to have saved those money ... I mean to say! ---- it cost him over 30$!!! hahaha!!!! that game - it is so bad, I would'nt even wipe my buttocks with it .... hahahahahaha!!! come laugh with me, people, this guy, he wasted 30 bucks!!!
P.S. If anyone of you people out there actually bought POOL OF RADIANCE™ too, .... nothing personal. haha! |
If I'd wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was. |
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Ezindir the dark
Senior Scribe
Norway
603 Posts |
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Alaundo
Head Moderator
United Kingdom
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The Cardinal
Senior Scribe
Canada
647 Posts |
Posted - 27 Dec 2003 : 20:33:54
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Heh heh heh. Now that the Silly season has come and gone, I see that things have returned to normal... Amazing how but a few days can turn the most warm of feelings to dust...  ...... |
It has to be Certain, the Gods Hate Me. For whatever irrevokable Fate, I have been made the walking Joke. Either that, or Beshaba is overlyfond Of Me.
-Unknown |
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mr.lee
Seeker
Norway
69 Posts |
Posted - 28 Dec 2003 : 00:14:41
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I'm so sorry, your headship ... Alaundo, Sir!
No offence, Sir! No offence meant!
Well - you do agree Pool of Radiance is a shame to Forgotten Realms, don't you?
-Forgive me, master |
If I'd wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was. |
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Elrond Half Elven
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
322 Posts |
Posted - 28 Dec 2003 : 16:04:01
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| a bit later but merry Crimbo everyone! Ach well there is always Hogmanay DRINK! lol! What ya all got planned for it? And the best to everyone for next year! |
Once upon a midnight dreary, while i pondered, weak and weary,
Over many a quaint and curious volume of forgotten lore-
While i nodded, nearly napping, suddenly there came a tapping,
As of some one gently rapping, rapping at my chamber door.
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 29 Dec 2003 : 08:48:19
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Mind if I post here? It's been a while since I could come long enough to type out a good post.
Oh, Zemd, good joke. I liked that one.
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Originally posted by Mumadar Ibn Huzal
"The idea of St. Nicholas got very much mixed in with Thor's transport when it comes to the sled with flying reindeer," said Helge Soerheim of the Archaeological Museum in Stavanger.
Some say the idea of Father Christmas or Santa bringing gifts stems from Norse mythology, too, since the most powerful of the Viking gods, Odin, was credited with doing the exact same thing, according to the Norwegian research magazine Forskning.
The first is quite likely correct, insofar as you can trace folklore. (It's hardly an exact science.)
The second is not. Or rather, not the main part. Odin was rather free with gifts to those he liked; having a ring (or bracelet, in some versions) that dropped copies of itself every so often gives you a bit of a fund for gifts.
However, the original giftgiving, as connected to this holiday, stems from the simple fact that Christmas is used to celebrate Christ's birthday. The presents we give each other on the 25th are in immitation of the magi doing the same in Bethleham. (Note: birthday presents, and cake as well, were well-established at that time.)
Of course, the gifts were presented as a test, as astrologers would give them. Each gift had a meaning: gold for earthly power, frankensence for religious ceremonies, and mirh for healing. Depending on which the baby (or toddler; it's actually quite unclear how old Jesus was when they got there) chose, he would be destined for being a king, a priest, or a doctor. (Their horoscopes only told them that Jesus was to be a powerful figure, and where and when he was born.) According to the account, Jesus chose all three.
Yet, once again, I'm sidetracked. Let's move on about three hundred years, to a man named Nicholas -- AKA St. Nick. He was a bishop in the Roman Empire, under the rule of Diocletian -- one of the most notorious Christian-haters of all history. Bishop Nicholas was imprisoned for years, kept in the same cell until all Christians were released by order of the next Emperor, Constantine.
This was the first Santa Claus. He didn't live at the North Pole, nor was he plum (though he was jolly). He also didn't wear fur-lined clothes, but the red of his robes became the red of Santa Claus's suit. As a boy, he was known for his generosity, giving away all of his wealth to those in need, be they Christian or not. This is the second source for the giftgiving tradition.
The bit about coming down the chimney is also from Saint Nicholas, as he often did this giving anymously -- he didn't like arguing with people he was giving to, should they reject his aid out of pride. Since most of the people he helped were poor, they would never have enough money to "waste" wood by burning it during the night, and would scatter the pieces to put them out. Nicholas would drop gifts like toys or money down the chimney late at night, which the occupants would find in the morning. (This way, he could leave the items anonymously, yet deposit them in the houses where they wouldn't be picked up by someone passing on the street.)
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Today, Jul marks the birth of Jesus and is part of the Christian tradition, but it's still referred to by its ancient name.
"Everything about it is ancient Jul. The name, the concept, the lights in the darkness, the good food, everything but the Christianity part," said Wenche Brun, who works with the Viking Museum on northern Norway's Lofoten Islands.
Ancient Jul was celebrated on December 21, then believed to be the longest night of the year. It was easy to shift to the Christian celebration that takes place December 24.
The original Christmas tradition was, understandably, reserved. It's hard to have a good party when it might show you're a Christan and get thrown to the lions, or used for target practice. Add that to the fact that no one knew what day of the year was Jesus's birthday, and it was rather hard to have any sort of consistant celebration. (Easter was easy -- it was the day after the Sabbath following Passover. Christmas wasn't so neatly recorded.)
It was soon married to a Roman holiday. Whether it was out of similarity (it's a Christian tradition that the beliefs of others are reflections of the true faith, just muddled -- rather like the ancient Greeks in that manner), or because since everyone else was partying, they could too, isn't made very clear. (That is, it's unclear if it was done before or after Constantine's decree.)
Either way, it was pretty subdued until Christianity spread to Roman province of Britannia, where Jul (Yule in Middle English) was celebrated around the same time. Once again, a bit of holiday fusion took place, though I suspect in this case it wasn't done as a concious effort. The new version of the holiday spread back out of Britannia and into the rest of the (now deteriorating) Roman Empire. However, it's been most strong, Yule-wise, in Britan and the Scandinavian region, for obvious reasons.
Like that article said, every traditional thing, save those I've mentioned, about Christmas are taken from Yule. Mistletoe (famed for various magical powers, including good luck), lights on the tree (originally animal-fat candles, carefully melted and tied onto the branches), and yes, the beer. (Although beer was a lot less strong in those days. It was, as I understand, like equal parts modern beer and water. If you wanted to get drunk, you got some meade. But once again, I digress.)
This concludes Bookwyrm's Teaching Corner. Tune in next time for some more useless information.  |
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mr.lee
Seeker
Norway
69 Posts |
Posted - 31 Dec 2003 : 00:20:45
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sorry, bookwyrm, but in fact, I do mind you post your long post here... it completely overrules mine! and anyway, even though you managed to write all that, I and most likely many others, do not!
Happy New Year to yeh all.
TAKE NOTE OF MY SIGNATURE! |
If I'd wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was. |
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The Cardinal
Senior Scribe
Canada
647 Posts |
Posted - 31 Dec 2003 : 02:13:03
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| Just out of curiousity mr.lee, do by chance know cyric? For your own words, though few... have lost me... Oh well, A miserable new year to all... and hopefully no more to come. |
It has to be Certain, the Gods Hate Me. For whatever irrevokable Fate, I have been made the walking Joke. Either that, or Beshaba is overlyfond Of Me.
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 31 Dec 2003 : 07:08:03
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Well put, Cardinal. I disagree with your religious views but it seems we agree on most everything else. (And now that I said that, someone will start a non-religious-based topic where we'll go head to head.  )
Now, Mr. Lee, I must protest, on behalf of everyone here. This is a library, in case you hadn't noticed all the books on the shelves. Kindly keep your voice at a normal level, and we'll get along so much better.
Besides, it being the hols and all, I'm sure that some of our most learned colleages are suffering the effects of too much eggnog, rather like Grandma. And we all know what happened to her when she left on Christmas Eve.  |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 31 Dec 2003 : 07:54:41
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Has anyone seen the statistics for Santa and his workshop? I just found them myself. Santa's sheet is a year old, so it's still 3e. I think he should be more than a mere 20th level character, though.
And I've been saying that Santa had the ability to stop time! (Okay, so it's tied to the sleigh, so what. They missed his staff of quickened portals, though. And they got the date wrong -- Santa doesn't fly on the night of December 25th! |
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The Cardinal
Senior Scribe
Canada
647 Posts |
Posted - 31 Dec 2003 : 08:06:38
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| Egads. A staff of Quickened Portals? I wonder what other tributes it may have.... and what other magical Goodies can be found on St. Nick's person... |
It has to be Certain, the Gods Hate Me. For whatever irrevokable Fate, I have been made the walking Joke. Either that, or Beshaba is overlyfond Of Me.
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Alaundo
Head Moderator
United Kingdom
5695 Posts |
Posted - 31 Dec 2003 : 08:13:36
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Originally posted by Bookwyrm
Now, Mr. Lee, I must protest, on behalf of everyone here. This is a library, in case you hadn't noticed all the books on the shelves. Kindly keep your voice at a normal level, and we'll get along so much better.
Well met
Indeed youre quite right Bookwyrm, volume levels such as that will not be tolerated  Please try to stay calm mr.lee and remember, the sharing of knowledge can often produce some lengthy scrolls.....if it interests you not, then simply move onto another scroll  |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 31 Dec 2003 : 08:16:45
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| Ah, Master Sage! I thought you'd be sleeping off the effects of -- er, that is, um, busy. Yes. |
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Alaundo
Head Moderator
United Kingdom
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The Cardinal
Senior Scribe
Canada
647 Posts |
Posted - 31 Dec 2003 : 08:23:06
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| Psst.. Bookwyrm...Did Alaundo get into the Inn's Drink Cellar again?... But the New year is still a day away... I mean last time this happened he wrote the Prophecies about the Lord of Murder perishing and all that.. |
It has to be Certain, the Gods Hate Me. For whatever irrevokable Fate, I have been made the walking Joke. Either that, or Beshaba is overlyfond Of Me.
-Unknown |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 31 Dec 2003 : 08:33:21
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| Well, I suppose you ought to hope that he's not about to write anything about your precious Lloth. Oh, look at that, he's lifting his pen . . . . |
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The Cardinal
Senior Scribe
Canada
647 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jan 2004 : 07:37:51
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| Your just envious since you are unworthy to even lick the mud upon which her spit had fallen! |
It has to be Certain, the Gods Hate Me. For whatever irrevokable Fate, I have been made the walking Joke. Either that, or Beshaba is overlyfond Of Me.
-Unknown |
Edited by - The Cardinal on 01 Jan 2004 07:39:32 |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jan 2004 : 06:01:32
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| That's okay. I'll leave the mud-licking to you, since you obviously enjoy it so much. |
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Lina
Senior Scribe
Australia
469 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jan 2004 : 06:37:45
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| Well tis a bit late... Hope everyone had a good Xmas and Happy New Year!! |
“Darkness beyond twilight, crimson beyond blood that flows! Buried in the flow of time. In thy great name. I pledge myself to darkness. All the fools who stand in our way shall be destroyed…by the power you and I possess! DRAGON SLAVE!!!”
"Thieves? Ah, such an ugly word... look upon them as the most honest sort of merchant."
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The Cardinal
Senior Scribe
Canada
647 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jan 2004 : 11:20:40
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Mind your tongue Dragon! Lest it might bring my wrath upon thee! 
But ye may be thankful that I am in a forgiving mood this eve. |
It has to be Certain, the Gods Hate Me. For whatever irrevokable Fate, I have been made the walking Joke. Either that, or Beshaba is overlyfond Of Me.
-Unknown |
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Alaundo
Head Moderator
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jan 2004 : 23:02:08
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| Alaundo, sir, might I say that Cardinal Deimos is entitled to his opinion, however, loud, obnoxious, and arrogant it is. *ehmh* Yes, well, Its late, but Happy New Year |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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The Cardinal
Senior Scribe
Canada
647 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jan 2004 : 01:32:14
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Sorry Alaundo, didn't see you there...
Have I ever told you the wonders of serving the Spider Queen?
*Claps Alaundo around the shoulder and begins trying to 'convert' him to change his patron to the Spider Queen* |
It has to be Certain, the Gods Hate Me. For whatever irrevokable Fate, I have been made the walking Joke. Either that, or Beshaba is overlyfond Of Me.
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