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The Sage
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Posted - 04 Feb 2012 :  01:47:06  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Arivia

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Ayrik

lol @ Manshoon Prime.

I think the "original" Manshoon is long gone. Even the "oldest" Manshoon clones are still clones.



Again, Ed has indicated otherwise.



Y'see, none of these Manshoon clones have yet found the Matrix of Zhentilar Leadership, which is currently lost somewhere in the great scrapyards that dot the Endless Wastes, guarded by Raumathari offshoots who call themselves the Junk-Men.

I've heard it said that the Matrix of Zhentilar Leadership was supposedly once used to halt the advance of the Chaos-Bringer Cyricron. It is also rumoured that one day, a member of the Black Network would rise through their ranks, and use the power of the Matrix, to "darken their lightest hour."

The Rise of Manshoon Prime, perhaps?

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Edited by - The Sage on 04 Feb 2012 02:18:37
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The Sage
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Posted - 04 Feb 2012 :  01:54:21  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Which means an archmage can leave a trail of himself all over the universe (and now I am back to the Council of Cross-Time Kangs).

Or it could be like the Marvel theory about Doctor Doom's time-travelling exploits leading to him adopting all kinds of personas in different time-periods?

You know, how Kang might actually be the Doom of one possible future? Or Rama-Tut being the Doom trapped in Pharaohnic Egypt?

It would be interesting to learn of something similar happening with Manshoon Prime. Instances of his temporal exploits resulting in different versions of himself in Toril's history.

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Arivia
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Posted - 04 Feb 2012 :  02:27:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Arivia

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Ayrik

lol @ Manshoon Prime.

I think the "original" Manshoon is long gone. Even the "oldest" Manshoon clones are still clones.



Again, Ed has indicated otherwise.



Y'see, none of these Manshoon clones have yet found the Matrix of Zhentilar Leadership, which is currently lost somewhere in the great scrapyards that dot the Endless Wastes, guarded by Raumathari offshoots who call themselves the Junk-Men.

I've heard it said that the Matrix of Zhentilar Leadership was supposedly once used to halt the advance of the Chaos-Bringer Cyricron. It is also rumoured that one day, a member of the Black Network would rise through their ranks, and use the power of the Matrix, to "darken their lightest hour."

The Rise of Manshoon Prime, perhaps?



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Tyrant
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Posted - 04 Feb 2012 :  03:33:30  Show Profile  Visit Tyrant's Homepage Send Tyrant a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Arivia

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Ayrik

lol @ Manshoon Prime.

I think the "original" Manshoon is long gone. Even the "oldest" Manshoon clones are still clones.



Again, Ed has indicated otherwise.



Y'see, none of these Manshoon clones have yet found the Matrix of Zhentilar Leadership, which is currently lost somewhere in the great scrapyards that dot the Endless Wastes, guarded by Raumathari offshoots who call themselves the Junk-Men.

I've heard it said that the Matrix of Zhentilar Leadership was supposedly once used to halt the advance of the Chaos-Bringer Cyricron. It is also rumoured that one day, a member of the Black Network would rise through their ranks, and use the power of the Matrix, to "darken their lightest hour."

The Rise of Manshoon Prime, perhaps?


But will he also be voiced by Judd Nelson? Something to ponder till the day when all are one.

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Arivia
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Posted - 04 Feb 2012 :  03:44:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://media.metronews.topscms.com/images/60/77/a63e4f114c308918e17b8e75dfae.jpeg

That could work for Manshoon. That could really work.
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The Masked Mage
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Posted - 28 Jan 2013 :  22:23:23  Show Profile Send The Masked Mage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Not to be confused with Stacy's Clone, which was created by Stacicantha of Ahlissa.

For years after her final demise, many Mages took delight in creating these things for parties... until Mordenkainen got wind of it and destroyed all known copies (and many of the disgusting magelings), except for one he keeps hidden amongst his 'don't touch' pile of magic. Elminster had requested a copy after hearing the tale, but was rebuked. Some say he managed to get a hold of a copy regardless.

This should not be confused with Stasis Clown, which was created by none other then Zagyg himself.....

{end transmission}



Stacy's Clone has got it goin' on
She's all I want and I've waited for so long
Stacy, can't you see you're just not the girl for me
I know it might be wrong but I'm in love with Stacy's Clone
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JohnLynch
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Posted - 29 Jan 2013 :  10:20:39  Show Profile Send JohnLynch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

If the rules of the universe (physics) are just sphere-specific - as D&D seems to imply - then doesn't that mean that someone can create clones in all different spheres, and they would 'wake up' as soon as that person departed the sphere?

I am thinking about how computers work - the spell gets a 'signal' from the person - either 'on' or 'off' (yes, the universe runs on Binary Code ). If a person exists the sphere, then the spell (on the clone) should register that that person no longer exists. As far as the magic would be concerned, they have 'died'.

Which means an archmage can leave a trail of himself all over the universe (and now I am back to the Council of Cross-Time Kangs).

You could just as easily assume (or so I think) that the stasis clone remains inert until it receives a "I'm dead" signal. So if you're killed in another Sphere, your clones will never animate (unless awoken by some other means).

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The Masked Mage
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Posted - 29 Jan 2013 :  11:48:36  Show Profile Send The Masked Mage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
In the description of stasis clone, it says that a clone is awakened based on a contingency spell. There is nothing whatsoever about "I'm dead" signals. A contingency can be based on anything - it could even be set up to activate upon someone else's death (just an example). The activation of a stasis clone is not part of the stasis clone spell. Rather each is tied to an array of contingencies - and the description talks about unique spells that allow Manshoon to alter these magics.
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