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jordanz
Senior Scribe
556 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jan 2012 : 17:55:11
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Possible SPELLFIRE SPOILERS....
SHe had a child with Narm correct? ANy word on the child or Narm or the child's descendants? I somehow always expected Narm to become an archmage eventually, if so he could still be alive...
What exactly was the crown of fire?
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Faraer
Great Reader
3308 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jan 2012 : 18:25:45
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quote: Originally posted by jordanz SHe had a child with Narm correct?
Spoiler:
No.
But (and this reflects on recent talk of different timelines and the role of book editors) in my Realms the tale of Shandril and Narm goes 'as I [Ed] originally wanted to tell it', as he set out here.quote: What exactly was the crown of fire?
Crown of Fire chapter 20:quote: "Sh-Shandril, listen. Touch my head. . . . Use my life ... and raise a crown of fire--the most powerful spellfire. . . .
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Seravin
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1288 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jan 2012 : 18:42:02
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I wish Ed's version of Shandril's story was fully published. Hand of Fire was probably my least favourite Greenwood book, and that's coming from someone who loves almost everything he has written including Spellfire and Crown of Fire. It really really did not work for me. |
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
7989 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jan 2012 : 19:24:34
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This is an interesting question. Shandril's spellfire might be inherited by her descendants - although it might never express, smoldering latent and undiscovered, if lacking the correct "magical trigger" to achieve ignition. |
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Artemas Entreri
Great Reader
USA
3131 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jan 2012 : 19:34:27
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The Spellplague could also have a positive or negative effect on an ancestor possessing the Spellfire. I would love to see a follow up book written, because Hand of Fire did not really work for me either. |
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Edited by - Artemas Entreri on 24 Jan 2012 19:34:47 |
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jordanz
Senior Scribe
556 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jan 2012 : 02:01:21
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quote: Originally posted by Faraer
quote: Originally posted by jordanz SHe had a child with Narm correct?
Spoiler:
No.
But (and this reflects on recent talk of different timelines and the role of book editors) in my Realms the tale of Shandril and Narm goes 'as I [Ed] originally wanted to tell it', as he set out here.quote: What exactly was the crown of fire?
Crown of Fire chapter 20:quote: "Sh-Shandril, listen. Touch my head. . . . Use my life ... and raise a crown of fire--the most powerful spellfire. . . .
What could the Crown of Fire accomplish that regular Spellfire could not? |
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Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jan 2012 : 04:14:17
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Whoever that descendant is, when the Spellplague struck Toril, s/he most likely either turned to ashes or got insane. |
Every beginning has an end. |
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Tyrant
Senior Scribe
USA
586 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jan 2012 : 04:58:16
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I honestly would've liked to read more about Narm. And didn't Shandril continue to exist in some form? The Spellplague or Mystra's death could have done any number of things to her. |
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Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jan 2012 : 05:00:52
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It seems like everyone who had special connection to Mystra was in bad shape during and after the SP. Shandril might be no exception to that. |
Every beginning has an end. |
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Tyrant
Senior Scribe
USA
586 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jan 2012 : 05:09:40
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quote: Originally posted by Dennis
It seems like everyone who had special connection to Mystra was in bad shape during and after the SP. Shandril might be no exception to that.
Very true. I was simply speculating that she may have been one of the lucky few to still be "alive", or sane. I agree that she probably got toasted. But who knows, maybe she fused into Mystra on some level (or, super out there theory, maybe the being that is being brought back to power is a Shandril based Mystra as opposed to a Midnight based Mystra) or was cut free and is now an energy being roaming who knows where. Either way, it would be nice to know what happened. |
Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me. -The Sith Code
Teenage Sith zombies, Tulkh thought-how in the moons of Bogden had it all started? Every so often, the universe must just get bored and decide to really cut loose. -Star Wars: Red Harvest |
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Artemas Entreri
Great Reader
USA
3131 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jan 2012 : 14:03:19
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Seeing Shandril warped into some ultra-powerful evil character might make for an interesting Spellplague plot twist as well. |
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Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jan 2012 : 09:42:13
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She may be a spellscarred now---the scar allowing her to "regulate" her spellfire and use it far more often than she used to. |
Every beginning has an end. |
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Thauranil
Master of Realmslore
India
1591 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jan 2012 : 12:45:37
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I believe she lost her first child and probably the second one as well when she was consumed by spellfire. So how could she have descendants when she is simply an entity of the weave. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36803 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jan 2012 : 15:32:22
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quote: Originally posted by Thauranil
I believe she lost her first child and probably the second one as well when she was consumed by spellfire. So how could she have descendants when she is simply an entity of the weave.
It's not unplausible that she could have reformed somehow, or found a way to "possess" someone. It's also not unplausible that the Spellplague would have in some way separated her from the Weave and returned her to living status. |
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Thauranil
Master of Realmslore
India
1591 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jan 2012 : 16:46:28
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quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote: Originally posted by Thauranil
I believe she lost her first child and probably the second one as well when she was consumed by spellfire. So how could she have descendants when she is simply an entity of the weave.
It's not unplausible that she could have reformed somehow, or found a way to "possess" someone. It's also not unplausible that the Spellplague would have in some way separated her from the Weave and returned her to living status.
Lets hope so...I rather like the Shandril books. |
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Seravin
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1288 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jan 2012 : 17:31:27
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Irked me that her pregnancy was never mentioned in Hand of Fire. |
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