Candlekeep Forum
Candlekeep Forum
Home | Profile | Register | Active Topics | Active Polls | Members | Private Messages | Search | FAQ
Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?

 All Forums
 Forgotten Realms Journals
 General Forgotten Realms Chat
 Any word on Shandril's Decendants?
 New Topic  New Poll New Poll
 Reply to Topic
 Printer Friendly
Author Previous Topic Topic Next Topic  

jordanz
Senior Scribe

556 Posts

Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  17:55:11  Show Profile  Visit jordanz's Homepage Send jordanz a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Possible SPELLFIRE SPOILERS....


SHe had a child with Narm correct? ANy word on the child or Narm or the child's descendants? I somehow always expected Narm to become an archmage eventually, if so he could still be alive...

What exactly was the crown of fire?

Faraer
Great Reader

3308 Posts

Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  18:25:45  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jordanz
SHe had a child with Narm correct?
Spoiler:

No.

But (and this reflects on recent talk of different timelines and the role of book editors) in my Realms the tale of Shandril and Narm goes 'as I [Ed] originally wanted to tell it', as he set out here.
quote:
What exactly was the crown of fire?
Crown of Fire chapter 20:
quote:
"Sh-Shandril, listen. Touch my head. . . . Use my life ... and raise a crown of fire--the most powerful spellfire. . . .
Go to Top of Page

Seravin
Master of Realmslore

Canada
1288 Posts

Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  18:42:02  Show Profile Send Seravin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I wish Ed's version of Shandril's story was fully published. Hand of Fire was probably my least favourite Greenwood book, and that's coming from someone who loves almost everything he has written including Spellfire and Crown of Fire. It really really did not work for me.
Go to Top of Page

Ayrik
Great Reader

Canada
7989 Posts

Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  19:24:34  Show Profile Send Ayrik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This is an interesting question. Shandril's spellfire might be inherited by her descendants - although it might never express, smoldering latent and undiscovered, if lacking the correct "magical trigger" to achieve ignition.

[/Ayrik]
Go to Top of Page

Artemas Entreri
Great Reader

USA
3131 Posts

Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  19:34:27  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Spellplague could also have a positive or negative effect on an ancestor possessing the Spellfire. I would love to see a follow up book written, because Hand of Fire did not really work for me either.

Some people have a way with words, and other people...oh, uh, not have way. -Steve Martin

Amazon "KindleUnlimited" Free Trial: http://amzn.to/2AJ4yD2

Try Audible and Get 2 Free Audio Books! https://amzn.to/2IgBede

Edited by - Artemas Entreri on 24 Jan 2012 19:34:47
Go to Top of Page

jordanz
Senior Scribe

556 Posts

Posted - 25 Jan 2012 :  02:01:21  Show Profile  Visit jordanz's Homepage Send jordanz a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faraer

quote:
Originally posted by jordanz
SHe had a child with Narm correct?
Spoiler:

No.

But (and this reflects on recent talk of different timelines and the role of book editors) in my Realms the tale of Shandril and Narm goes 'as I [Ed] originally wanted to tell it', as he set out here.
quote:
What exactly was the crown of fire?
Crown of Fire chapter 20:
quote:
"Sh-Shandril, listen. Touch my head. . . . Use my life ... and raise a crown of fire--the most powerful spellfire. . . .




What could the Crown of Fire accomplish that regular Spellfire could not?
Go to Top of Page

Dennis
Great Reader

9933 Posts

Posted - 25 Jan 2012 :  04:14:17  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote


Whoever that descendant is, when the Spellplague struck Toril, s/he most likely either turned to ashes or got insane.

Every beginning has an end.
Go to Top of Page

Tyrant
Senior Scribe

USA
586 Posts

Posted - 25 Jan 2012 :  04:58:16  Show Profile  Visit Tyrant's Homepage Send Tyrant a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I honestly would've liked to read more about Narm. And didn't Shandril continue to exist in some form? The Spellplague or Mystra's death could have done any number of things to her.

Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me.
-The Sith Code

Teenage Sith zombies, Tulkh thought-how in the moons of Bogden had it all started? Every so often, the universe must just get bored and decide to really cut loose. -Star Wars: Red Harvest
Go to Top of Page

Dennis
Great Reader

9933 Posts

Posted - 25 Jan 2012 :  05:00:52  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

It seems like everyone who had special connection to Mystra was in bad shape during and after the SP. Shandril might be no exception to that.

Every beginning has an end.
Go to Top of Page

Tyrant
Senior Scribe

USA
586 Posts

Posted - 25 Jan 2012 :  05:09:40  Show Profile  Visit Tyrant's Homepage Send Tyrant a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis


It seems like everyone who had special connection to Mystra was in bad shape during and after the SP. Shandril might be no exception to that.


Very true. I was simply speculating that she may have been one of the lucky few to still be "alive", or sane. I agree that she probably got toasted. But who knows, maybe she fused into Mystra on some level (or, super out there theory, maybe the being that is being brought back to power is a Shandril based Mystra as opposed to a Midnight based Mystra) or was cut free and is now an energy being roaming who knows where. Either way, it would be nice to know what happened.

Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me.
-The Sith Code

Teenage Sith zombies, Tulkh thought-how in the moons of Bogden had it all started? Every so often, the universe must just get bored and decide to really cut loose. -Star Wars: Red Harvest
Go to Top of Page

Artemas Entreri
Great Reader

USA
3131 Posts

Posted - 25 Jan 2012 :  14:03:19  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Seeing Shandril warped into some ultra-powerful evil character might make for an interesting Spellplague plot twist as well.

Some people have a way with words, and other people...oh, uh, not have way. -Steve Martin

Amazon "KindleUnlimited" Free Trial: http://amzn.to/2AJ4yD2

Try Audible and Get 2 Free Audio Books! https://amzn.to/2IgBede
Go to Top of Page

Dennis
Great Reader

9933 Posts

Posted - 27 Jan 2012 :  09:42:13  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

She may be a spellscarred now---the scar allowing her to "regulate" her spellfire and use it far more often than she used to.

Every beginning has an end.
Go to Top of Page

Thauranil
Master of Realmslore

India
1591 Posts

Posted - 27 Jan 2012 :  12:45:37  Show Profile Send Thauranil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I believe she lost her first child and probably the second one as well when she was consumed by spellfire. So how could she have descendants when she is simply an entity of the weave.
Go to Top of Page

Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
Moderator

USA
36803 Posts

Posted - 27 Jan 2012 :  15:32:22  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Thauranil

I believe she lost her first child and probably the second one as well when she was consumed by spellfire. So how could she have descendants when she is simply an entity of the weave.



It's not unplausible that she could have reformed somehow, or found a way to "possess" someone. It's also not unplausible that the Spellplague would have in some way separated her from the Weave and returned her to living status.

Candlekeep Forums Moderator

Candlekeep - The Library of Forgotten Realms Lore
http://www.candlekeep.com
-- Candlekeep Forum Code of Conduct

I am the Giant Space Hamster of Ill Omen!
Go to Top of Page

Thauranil
Master of Realmslore

India
1591 Posts

Posted - 27 Jan 2012 :  16:46:28  Show Profile Send Thauranil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Thauranil

I believe she lost her first child and probably the second one as well when she was consumed by spellfire. So how could she have descendants when she is simply an entity of the weave.



It's not unplausible that she could have reformed somehow, or found a way to "possess" someone. It's also not unplausible that the Spellplague would have in some way separated her from the Weave and returned her to living status.



Lets hope so...I rather like the Shandril books.
Go to Top of Page

Seravin
Master of Realmslore

Canada
1288 Posts

Posted - 27 Jan 2012 :  17:31:27  Show Profile Send Seravin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Irked me that her pregnancy was never mentioned in Hand of Fire.
Go to Top of Page
  Previous Topic Topic Next Topic  
 New Topic  New Poll New Poll
 Reply to Topic
 Printer Friendly
Jump To:
Candlekeep Forum © 1999-2024 Candlekeep.com Go To Top Of Page
Snitz Forums 2000