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Skeptic
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Posted - 23 Jan 2012 :  18:12:21  Show Profile Send Skeptic a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic

http://www.amazon.com/Greenwood-Presents-Elminsters-Forgotten-Realms/dp/0786960345/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1327342310&sr=1-1

Apex
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Posted - 23 Jan 2012 :  18:19:01  Show Profile  Visit Apex's Homepage Send Apex a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Could be interesting depending on the era. If this is "Elminster's FR as of the OGB (or around)" then I am game. If it is "Elminster's FR as of 14xx" count me out.
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Seravin
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I think I'm buying this no matter what era. Although I'd be MUCH more happy if it's OGB era!
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Posted - 23 Jan 2012 :  18:48:27  Show Profile  Visit Hawkins's Homepage Send Hawkins a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hm. If this is at all like the project Jorkens proposed, I will love it.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 23 Jan 2012 :  19:08:42  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm intrigued by this news, but I need to see more information before I can make a definitive call on whether or not I'll buy it.

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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 23 Jan 2012 :  19:29:22  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would love to see a cover image.

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idilippy
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Very interested in seeing what this turns out to be.
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Brimstone
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Posted - 23 Jan 2012 :  23:07:38  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message  Reply with Quote
October of this year! SWEEEEEET! Gonna get me a copy.

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Jakk
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Posted - 23 Jan 2012 :  23:21:45  Show Profile Send Jakk a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This looks interesting... but I'd like to know more first, as I'm with Apex as far as its usefulness to me is concerned. At any rate, it's the first WotC product I've seen since the 4E core rulebooks that I've been interested in, and my interest in 4E didn't last that long. And I, too, would like to see a cover image... although I know from past experience that such things tend to change between initial announcement and release; the cover of the GHotR is just one example.

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The Sage
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Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  00:23:07  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It had me sold on the words "Ed Greenwood."

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Mace Hammerhand
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Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  00:30:11  Show Profile  Visit Mace Hammerhand's Homepage Send Mace Hammerhand a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nothing on the Wizards homepage so far...

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Brimstone
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

It had me sold on the words "Ed Greenwood."


Indeed.

Then again it's a Realms books so I will buy it anyways.

"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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The Sage
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Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  05:07:18  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Matt James

You guys will love this book


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Jakk
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Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  09:30:34  Show Profile Send Jakk a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Where's that quote from, Sage? I can't find an OP in this scroll; is that all Matt had to say? And if he was referring to those of us who had posted in this scroll, then I'm definitely optimistic... but I won't speculate on content until I see a more detailed preview; I've about given up on the Cormyr Lineage, and I don't want to get my hopes up again until I have proof.

Edit: Either way, it's going to be a long nine months... and the third trimester is apparently the worst, from what I've heard from my friends who have kids.

Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.

If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic.

Edited by - Jakk on 24 Jan 2012 09:33:38
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  10:52:09  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jakk

Where's that quote from, Sage? I can't find an OP in this scroll; is that all Matt had to say? And if he was referring to those of us who had posted in this scroll, then I'm definitely optimistic... but I won't speculate on content until I see a more detailed preview; I've about given up on the Cormyr Lineage, and I don't want to get my hopes up again until I have proof.

Edit: Either way, it's going to be a long nine months... and the third trimester is apparently the worst, from what I've heard from my friends who have kids.



Matt accidentally created a new topic. Sage closed it, but quoted him here.

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Jorkens
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Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  11:28:58  Show Profile Send Jorkens a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I cant remember the last time a title (of anything)got me exited. This is an exception.
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Zireael
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Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  13:10:17  Show Profile  Visit Zireael's Homepage Send Zireael a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah, I'm interested in what it turns out to be too.

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The Sage
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Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  14:22:11  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jakk

Where's that quote from, Sage?
As Wooly said, Matt accidently posted a new topic, rather than replying to this existing one.

I've transferred the quote as per his request.
quote:
I can't find an OP in this scroll; is that all Matt had to say?
It could be that Matt can't share all that much about the book just yet. Or, maybe, he's not even all that aware of it's full content.

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Matt James
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Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  14:31:09  Show Profile Send Matt James a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have no clue what any of you are talking about. I said nothing. Nothing!

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Brimstone
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Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  14:32:43  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message  Reply with Quote
When will we know who worked on it?

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Artemas Entreri
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quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

It had me sold on the words "Ed Greenwood."


Indeed.

Then again it's a Realms books so I will buy it anyways.



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Hawkins
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Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  15:31:03  Show Profile  Visit Hawkins's Homepage Send Hawkins a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Matt James

I have no clue what any of you are talking about. I said nothing. Nothing!

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Bakra
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Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  15:31:41  Show Profile Send Bakra a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone

When will we know who worked on it?



Knowing my luck....Gencon.



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Brimstone
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quote:
Originally posted by entreri3478

quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

It had me sold on the words "Ed Greenwood."


Indeed.

Then again it's a Realms books so I will buy it anyways.



Don't let the developers over at WoTC hear you say that, who knows what they will churn out


I really have no problems with who is working at WotC right now. From the current DDI articles I think this current WotC crew and freelancers are doing a great job.

"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Brimstone
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quote:
Originally posted by Bakra

quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone

When will we know who worked on it?



Knowing my luck....Gencon.






"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Seravin
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Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  18:34:33  Show Profile Send Seravin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Argh! Thanks Matt James.

Now I have to buy 2. One to sit and look beautiful and one to read/flip through until the pages disintegrate in my hands. Please fill it with art and maps and lore. Please. Pretty pretty please.
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Therise
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Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  19:31:59  Show Profile Send Therise a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Skeptic

Greenwood Presents: Elminster's Forgotten Realms


Interesting. Coming out when it does, this strikes me as less than a new campaign setting book and more as a special supplement. It doesn't feel like a 4E standard supplement, as it's not region-specific, but almost an addendum.

If it's some kind of multi-edition overview, I'm not quite sure how I'd feel about that. It might be my litmus test on whether or not I start buying Realms materials again. If it's super-heavy on 4E Realms or is a "continuation" with minor fixes and lore additions to "smooth things out", I can't see myself investing in it. If it takes a bold step and diverges 4E Realms into its own separate timeline (or completely divests the Realms of the 4E period), I'd probably buy it sight-unseen just as a show of support.


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Apex
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Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  20:41:36  Show Profile  Visit Apex's Homepage Send Apex a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Therise

quote:
Originally posted by Skeptic

Greenwood Presents: Elminster's Forgotten Realms


Interesting. Coming out when it does, this strikes me as less than a new campaign setting book and more as a special supplement. It doesn't feel like a 4E standard supplement, as it's not region-specific, but almost an addendum.

If it's some kind of multi-edition overview, I'm not quite sure how I'd feel about that. It might be my litmus test on whether or not I start buying Realms materials again. If it's super-heavy on 4E Realms or is a "continuation" with minor fixes and lore additions to "smooth things out", I can't see myself investing in it. If it takes a bold step and diverges 4E Realms into its own separate timeline (or completely divests the Realms of the 4E period), I'd probably buy it sight-unseen just as a show of support.





Having given this some thought (and some wishful thinking), I could easily see this as somewhat of a rehash of the OGB (but obviously with more/different/original details). It will come out not too long after WoTC re-releases the 1st Edition trio of Gygaxian bibles, so what better time to get back to the Realms as Greenwood meant it to be.
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Rafael
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Wow, I haven't been here in AGES!

If you see a gentleman called "The Sage", give him my best regards! :)

Judging from the earlier releases for FR... Could it be an update of Elminster's Ecologies to 4e?

It didn't feel so much as if people at Wizbro were interested - or allowed - to do "Old" Realms.

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Jakk
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quote:
Originally posted by Seravin

Argh! Thanks Matt James.

Now I have to buy 2. One to sit and look beautiful and one to read/flip through until the pages disintegrate in my hands. Please fill it with art and maps and lore. Please. Pretty pretty please.



What Seravin said, and if it is filled with maps and lore that are of use to me (that is, at least mostly pre-Spellplague), I'll buy at least one copy, very likely two, and possibly three.

quote:
Originally posted by Therise

<snip>
Interesting. Coming out when it does, this strikes me as less than a new campaign setting book and more as a special supplement. It doesn't feel like a 4E standard supplement, as it's not region-specific, but almost an addendum.

If it's some kind of multi-edition overview, I'm not quite sure how I'd feel about that. It might be my litmus test on whether or not I start buying Realms materials again. If it's super-heavy on 4E Realms or is a "continuation" with minor fixes and lore additions to "smooth things out", I can't see myself investing in it. If it takes a bold step and diverges 4E Realms into its own separate timeline (or completely divests the Realms of the 4E period), I'd probably buy it sight-unseen just as a show of support.



Yeah. What Therise said, although, with respect to the multi-edition overview, if it contains a whole bunch of previously unpublished pre-Spellplague lore, I'm okay (in fact, I'm delighted) with that. But I suspect Therise will be too... just a guess based on an impression I've acquired.

Anyway, I'm trying very hard to stop speculating on the 5E Realms; I'm hoping we'll get some more information about this title soon, but not so soon that we still have to wait forever to get our greedy little Smeagol-hands on our preciousss...

Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.

If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic.
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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 25 Jan 2012 :  06:08:57  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone

When will we know who worked on it?
Well, Ed Greenwood, obviously.

And how awesome will it be?

THAT awesome.

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