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Cult_Leader
Learned Scribe
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 Posted - 16 Dec 2003 : 13:59:11
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| This may sound odd. But im going to say mage. Why? because in the realms mages get shafted the most when it comes to distrust. They have nots placed upon their hands called peace knots. As well as most wands and such taken from them in towns where peace knots are used. However no one takes away a monks firsts, nor do they take away a fighters. Most would never dream of trying to depart a barbarian and his axe. Regaurdless theives are shown more respect then a mage in the long run. Its only when a mage is very powerful that he even starts to get respect. Even then people probably have never heard of you unless you actually get up and do something. mages also tend to have trouble with simple animals. A cat can kill a mage in 2 turns. Poor mages huh? But its true. A small horde of grey squrriels (SP?) can easily come along and bite the mage in a swarm, dead. And thats when the mage is around 7-8th level. Your not going to see a fighter or even a theif with that trouble. |
"Madness you say! Do you fear me? Are you afraid of what I might do, of what I might say? What a fascinating reaction. Don't you find it somewhat encumbering?"
Piddles assumes a deep and resonant voice. "Space...the Final Frontier. These are the voyages of the starship...Garou. It's mission: to slay Wyrm creatures where they live and breed. To accumulate more Garou than the world's entire population. To produce metis like no one has before." - Piddles
"Aren't you people supposed to be doing something? Like, entertaining me, the fascist wizard?" - InleRah
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Ezindir the dark
Senior Scribe
Norway
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Posted - 16 Dec 2003 : 14:37:01
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Bah, mages can be only be killed by a little hord of sqirrels in 7ht to 8th lv if they have like 10 in consitution and not cast any spells, but if you dont cast spells with a mage why have him?
Cyric: What about IWD 2 or NWN where everyone can be anything, which race do you think is the coolest?
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Cult_Leader
Learned Scribe
USA
337 Posts |
Posted - 16 Dec 2003 : 14:57:09
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| Thats also easy to answer. How do you plan to kill a horde of critters biting on you? Thats one big concentration roll dont you think? Not only that but thats an auto one dmg each bite cause its clung onto you. And since they are so small they can each occupy more then one part of a mage and his square. What would you do anyway? Cast fire ball on yourself? Yeah thats a great Idea. More then opne mage has already fallen to the critter attack. |
"Madness you say! Do you fear me? Are you afraid of what I might do, of what I might say? What a fascinating reaction. Don't you find it somewhat encumbering?"
Piddles assumes a deep and resonant voice. "Space...the Final Frontier. These are the voyages of the starship...Garou. It's mission: to slay Wyrm creatures where they live and breed. To accumulate more Garou than the world's entire population. To produce metis like no one has before." - Piddles
"Aren't you people supposed to be doing something? Like, entertaining me, the fascist wizard?" - InleRah
I have the passwords to the minds of everyone and the cheat codes to the universe - Me |
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Cult_Leader
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 16 Dec 2003 : 15:00:42
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| And wrong the bar is not Cal. Infact they are probably just giving you crap about being a bard because its tradition to. Bards are actually the uber class. Far to easy to make one a very good char. They have theif fighter and mages parts to them. They can cast divinations ( some) and arcane spells. Their song ability can be used WHILE they fight, IE- A skuld. A viking battle bard. All you have to do is make them realize your the man thy da bishes. Not only that but bards gets the women and mens... |
"Madness you say! Do you fear me? Are you afraid of what I might do, of what I might say? What a fascinating reaction. Don't you find it somewhat encumbering?"
Piddles assumes a deep and resonant voice. "Space...the Final Frontier. These are the voyages of the starship...Garou. It's mission: to slay Wyrm creatures where they live and breed. To accumulate more Garou than the world's entire population. To produce metis like no one has before." - Piddles
"Aren't you people supposed to be doing something? Like, entertaining me, the fascist wizard?" - InleRah
I have the passwords to the minds of everyone and the cheat codes to the universe - Me |
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Ezindir the dark
Senior Scribe
Norway
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Posted - 16 Dec 2003 : 15:14:23
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| Cast a fireshield on yourself and the most of them will cill them self, if you are spesiald classed yoou can also cast stoneskin and they can almost not hurt you, and if you take a good throw you can cast a fireball in a way that makes it not hurt you since you are out of range. those that remains, if any, you can kill the with magic missil. Now thats a good recipfor how to kill a horde of sqirrels |
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Cyric
Senior Scribe
Norway
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Posted - 16 Dec 2003 : 16:36:15
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and that horde of sqirrels they serv Cyric right .
And humans are and always wil be the best race The have no bars they can go any where and in baldurs gate it matters and NWN was not a very good game if you ask me and i have not playd IWD 2.
And the best class ever must be Spurn lord of Cyric. |
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Ezindir the dark
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Arteris
Learned Scribe
121 Posts |
Posted - 17 Dec 2003 : 02:49:11
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Originally posted by Ezindir the dark
Arteris: What is wrong with tree hugging hippies?
They get annoying when you step on a twig and they try to cut your throat out.. Its everyones forest you know.. Not just theres |
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Ezindir the dark
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 17 Dec 2003 : 18:39:56
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Jeez, Cult Leader, what the heck happened to your grammar? You're typing like another person there. Not at all your usual 'voice.'
Some people might find it interesting that the predecessor to Jack Archer was a monk. Yep, I've done a crossover character before, for an old fanfic I did before I got all the stats, 3e or otherwise. I switched to a fencer rather than a martial artist when I created Jack, though, because I'd been interested in fencing at the time and had been wanting to do a Duelist character.
Sometime I'm going to do a paladin. I see paladins not as annoying crusaders, but rather as a possibility for a really spiritual character. This guy would be more focused on defending those who needed it than actually going out and destroying evil. He'd also not be annoyingly visible; more of a background character. (I do find it annoying when paladins are all "I shall smite thee, evildoer!") |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 18 Dec 2003 : 08:04:04
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Well, I just don't think it's necessary to play the class like that all the time. It seems that the paladin almost has to be a person in heavy, polished armor, a two-handed sword in one hand, charging at a dragon or a horde of orcs simply because they're there.
I think there would have to be a lot of paladins out there who wouldn't be so warlike, for one thing, and would be focused on healing or somesuch. Aiding the helpless, serving as impartial mediators. (Okay, so a character as Lawful Good as a paladin can't ever be truly impartial. Most laws are put up as an effort for good; most goodly folk obey goodly laws. In that context, I'd say a paladin would be pretty impartial.)
I'm not sure how this character would be played. I'd have to make final decisions based on the level of the character and (likely) where he is and hails from. I play my characters as dynamic personalities, who are likely to change. (Note, please, that this does not necessarily mean Chaotic characters.) I usually consider, when making a character, that every three levels (s)he has, there was a chance for a major life change. I don't always pick them all, or even one, but it's one example. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 18 Dec 2003 : 08:19:09
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Actually I made that a delineation for Paladin PCs in my FR campaigns, as well as other setting. Whether by just general mood and attitude, or by specialised feats, or even a PrC or three...I made my players aware that the Paladin's role in society is many and varied. Among some of these various types are - diplomat Paladins, civil administrator Paladins, judicial authority Paladins, and the most recent addition (and a unique creation only for a particular setting), imperial overseer Grand Master Paladin.
In fact until I introduced these 'changes' in my campaigns...the Paladin class was becoming a virtually extinct choice of PC among my players...
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
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Posted - 18 Dec 2003 : 08:54:25
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| Not bad. Perhaps you could detail some of the adjustments, should you get the chance? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31772 Posts |
Posted - 18 Dec 2003 : 09:00:53
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I can definitely supply some of the feats I used, and one of the PrC (mentioned in another scroll), but the general attitudes and mood are entirely up to the DM, and Players to generate...Sorry all...I can't do EVERYTHING... 
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Cult_Leader
Learned Scribe
USA
337 Posts |
Posted - 18 Dec 2003 : 14:11:38
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| Btw the way stone skin does not effect damage just negates a number of hits. So each squrreil your trying to fry with a fire ball, Keeping in mind the little critters are already biting you and taking your stone skin away very fast, Probably one or two turns, is going to leave you to be hit by the fire ball as well. Sides my little critters would have some disease thus maskign them mad thus poisoning you. So burn yourself and waste two spells heh. |
"Madness you say! Do you fear me? Are you afraid of what I might do, of what I might say? What a fascinating reaction. Don't you find it somewhat encumbering?"
Piddles assumes a deep and resonant voice. "Space...the Final Frontier. These are the voyages of the starship...Garou. It's mission: to slay Wyrm creatures where they live and breed. To accumulate more Garou than the world's entire population. To produce metis like no one has before." - Piddles
"Aren't you people supposed to be doing something? Like, entertaining me, the fascist wizard?" - InleRah
I have the passwords to the minds of everyone and the cheat codes to the universe - Me |
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Cult_Leader
Learned Scribe
USA
337 Posts |
Posted - 18 Dec 2003 : 14:14:59
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Originally posted by Bookwyrm
Jeez, Cult Leader, what the heck happened to your grammar? You're typing like another person there. Not at all your usual 'voice.'
Some people might find it interesting that the predecessor to Jack Archer was a monk. Yep, I've done a crossover character before, for an old fanfic I did before I got all the stats, 3e or otherwise. I switched to a fencer rather than a martial artist when I created Jack, though, because I'd been interested in fencing at the time and had been wanting to do a Duelist character.
Sometime I'm going to do a paladin. I see paladins not as annoying crusaders, but rather as a possibility for a really spiritual character. This guy would be more focused on defending those who needed it than actually going out and destroying evil. He'd also not be annoyingly visible; more of a background character. (I do find it annoying when paladins are all "I shall smite thee, evildoer!")
How so? Im not to sure what you mean by that? Umm, could it be because my grammar was better on that day? yeah it happens now and then. I get good grammar for a day and I pay for it the rest of the week with even worse grammar. I get that way. Some type of learning disability (sp?). Kind of sucks but meh I deal with it. |
"Madness you say! Do you fear me? Are you afraid of what I might do, of what I might say? What a fascinating reaction. Don't you find it somewhat encumbering?"
Piddles assumes a deep and resonant voice. "Space...the Final Frontier. These are the voyages of the starship...Garou. It's mission: to slay Wyrm creatures where they live and breed. To accumulate more Garou than the world's entire population. To produce metis like no one has before." - Piddles
"Aren't you people supposed to be doing something? Like, entertaining me, the fascist wizard?" - InleRah
I have the passwords to the minds of everyone and the cheat codes to the universe - Me |
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Cult_Leader
Learned Scribe
USA
337 Posts |
Posted - 18 Dec 2003 : 14:22:39
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Originally posted by Ezindir the dark
Cast a fireshield on yourself and the most of them will cill them self, if you are spesiald classed yoou can also cast stoneskin and they can almost not hurt you, and if you take a good throw you can cast a fireball in a way that makes it not hurt you since you are out of range. those that remains, if any, you can kill the with magic missil. Now thats a good recipfor how to kill a horde of sqirrels
Again. Thats still a big concentration role. Keep in mind that you will probably fail your perception check due to the fact that they are tiny animals. When they run they actually do not make sound ( Trust me I used to hunt them), as well as being in their home turf. That alone make sit harder to deal with them mister mage who belongs in the city would more then likely fail his roll to see them. Then the fun starts. THey pounce on you and cling to you. And each turn they auto hit. So thats at least 10-20 of them on you that auto hit each turn because theu are clining to you. Which, sence it auto hits takes away one of your stone skins. Thats wearing down your stone skin fast thats even to say that you could cast it while they are chewing on your face off!  All in all you have to keep in mind your more likely to fail a perception check and a concentrations roll in that given situation. Not to mention but who is to say your more worried about grabbing your spell components then grabbing your face and arms because your being chewed? |
"Madness you say! Do you fear me? Are you afraid of what I might do, of what I might say? What a fascinating reaction. Don't you find it somewhat encumbering?"
Piddles assumes a deep and resonant voice. "Space...the Final Frontier. These are the voyages of the starship...Garou. It's mission: to slay Wyrm creatures where they live and breed. To accumulate more Garou than the world's entire population. To produce metis like no one has before." - Piddles
"Aren't you people supposed to be doing something? Like, entertaining me, the fascist wizard?" - InleRah
I have the passwords to the minds of everyone and the cheat codes to the universe - Me |
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The Cardinal
Senior Scribe
Canada
647 Posts |
Posted - 18 Dec 2003 : 14:31:05
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That's were wands come in. No need to realy check just aim at your feet and fire. WHOOSH! It all goes up, critters, mage, grass.... pun not intended... But as long as you toast the buggers, who really cares if you survive or not. You may be dead but at least you took them with you . Now THAT the smell of victory, Roasted Squirrel and Charred Flesh. |
It has to be Certain, the Gods Hate Me. For whatever irrevokable Fate, I have been made the walking Joke. Either that, or Beshaba is overlyfond Of Me.
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Cult_Leader
Learned Scribe
USA
337 Posts |
Posted - 18 Dec 2003 : 14:46:01
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| Yes my Fave meal, Mage and Squirrel. Mmm ... Addin a little BBQ and my half orc half orger would be thrilled. |
"Madness you say! Do you fear me? Are you afraid of what I might do, of what I might say? What a fascinating reaction. Don't you find it somewhat encumbering?"
Piddles assumes a deep and resonant voice. "Space...the Final Frontier. These are the voyages of the starship...Garou. It's mission: to slay Wyrm creatures where they live and breed. To accumulate more Garou than the world's entire population. To produce metis like no one has before." - Piddles
"Aren't you people supposed to be doing something? Like, entertaining me, the fascist wizard?" - InleRah
I have the passwords to the minds of everyone and the cheat codes to the universe - Me |
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Ezindir the dark
Senior Scribe
Norway
603 Posts |
Posted - 18 Dec 2003 : 16:47:41
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| .Well if you see them a little before they attack you, you will be able to cast an invisibility spell or us a ring, potion or a wand. And then you can move and dcast your fireball. And the buggers are fried. But i'm sure you can find a way that whant happend |
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Cult_Leader
Learned Scribe
USA
337 Posts |
Posted - 19 Dec 2003 : 13:54:56
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| Displacer squrriels LOL. Either that or the unholy invisable squrrilies. |
"Madness you say! Do you fear me? Are you afraid of what I might do, of what I might say? What a fascinating reaction. Don't you find it somewhat encumbering?"
Piddles assumes a deep and resonant voice. "Space...the Final Frontier. These are the voyages of the starship...Garou. It's mission: to slay Wyrm creatures where they live and breed. To accumulate more Garou than the world's entire population. To produce metis like no one has before." - Piddles
"Aren't you people supposed to be doing something? Like, entertaining me, the fascist wizard?" - InleRah
I have the passwords to the minds of everyone and the cheat codes to the universe - Me |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 19 Dec 2003 : 16:29:13
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| ::tosses Ezindir a scroll of slay annoying rodents:: |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 03 Jan 2004 : 22:51:32
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| Now that scroll might come in handy for the chipmunks in the flowerbeds that my parents are always complaining about *hmmmmm* |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Ezindir the dark
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 04 Jan 2004 : 20:27:25
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Lol, thanx, it seems somewhat akin to yours. AND I WILL HAVE THE SCROLL!!!! THE CHIPMUNKS MUST BE EVISCERATED!!!!!! |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Ezindir the dark
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 04 Jan 2004 : 21:27:10
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| Shadowlord calls upon his dieties, Mask, and Vhaeraun, and casts True Sight. Now where will you hide??? THE SCROLL SHALL BE MINE!!!!!! |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Ezindir the dark
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Ezindir the dark
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It's a Matter of Class
