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Jakuta Khan
Senior Scribe
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 Posted - 23 Dec 2011 : 13:39:24
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How does this in general rule?
it is clear that no large creature can ride on a medium or smaller creature.
but can a medium size creature ride on a medium size mount?
Does it depend on the amount of legs ( i.e. minimum 4 )??
thanks for your replies.
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Kilvan
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Posted - 23 Dec 2011 : 14:21:46
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I believe the mount has to be at least 1 size larger than the rider. Some creatures have explicit stats for carrying creatures or equipement, but I think any 4-legged creatures large enough could serve as mounts if trained (i.e. dire wolf, worg, dire boar). Bipedal creatures wouldn't make effective (and comfortable) mounts, but could be strong enough to carry you around (i.e. golem, giants), but I think it would be a stretch to call these "mounts".
I wouldn't allow a medium-sized mount for a medium creature. Just like I wouldn't allow a hill giant to ride a horse (eat it, yes, but not ride it). |
Edited by - Kilvan on 23 Dec 2011 14:23:29 |
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 23 Dec 2011 : 16:24:40
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| Well four legs do have greater carrying capacity. In general indeed mount needs to be one size larger then the rider. A complete answer however is looking at mount carrying ability and weight of the rider. It is possible a small could carry a medium, though I consider that unlikely. I am fairly sure that you can find medium being a mount for a rider the same size. |
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Kilvan
Senior Scribe
Canada
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Posted - 23 Dec 2011 : 16:56:38
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| I did a swift search through the MM, I found no medium creature that I would allow as a mount for a medium humanoid. |
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Kentinal
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Posted - 23 Dec 2011 : 18:23:57
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Originally posted by Kilvan
I did a swift search through the MM, I found no medium creature that I would allow as a mount for a medium humanoid.
Well a strong human can carry the weight of another human. A human as a mount is possible, though clearly a slave condition or very dedicated religious service to serve as a mount.
The smaller carrying the larger likely much harder to find. |
"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
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Artemas Entreri
Great Reader
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Posted - 23 Dec 2011 : 18:54:22
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Originally posted by Kentinal
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Originally posted by Kilvan
I did a swift search through the MM, I found no medium creature that I would allow as a mount for a medium humanoid.
Well a strong human can carry the weight of another human. A human as a mount is possible, though clearly a slave condition or very dedicated religious service to serve as a mount.
Not very practical. |
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Kentinal
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Posted - 23 Dec 2011 : 23:33:07
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Originally posted by entreri3478
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Originally posted by Kentinal
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Originally posted by Kilvan
I did a swift search through the MM, I found no medium creature that I would allow as a mount for a medium humanoid.
Well a strong human can carry the weight of another human. A human as a mount is possible, though clearly a slave condition or very dedicated religious service to serve as a mount.
Not very practical.
When fighting giants it might be useful *Grin*
Though most common clearly would be mount at least one size larger then rider. |
"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 24 Dec 2011 : 00:47:44
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Dwarves are a bit tricky, technically size M yet also similar to size S. For dwarves, some M-sized weapons are 2-handed, some L-sized (2-handed) weapons cannot be used, certainly not longbows (at least not from normal standing position). Can ride ponies and donkeys, but not horses (not comfortably, anyways).
Bugbears and half-ogres are similarly tricky. Technically size M yet really close to size L. Can wield many L-sized weapons (like 2-handed swords or halberds) in one hand. Can only ride the largest warhorses, perhaps. |
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Wolfhound75
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 24 Dec 2011 : 05:22:44
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I'd be inclined to let a bugbear ride something akin to a destrier, but not a palfrey. Maybe a draft horse could be considered Huge so the half-ogre could ride something like a Clydesdale or Belgian perhaps?
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Riding creatures size vs rider size
