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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
    
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Posted - 31 Dec 2011 : 13:45:28
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quote: Originally posted by Ayrik
I wonder if there's any "bloodlines" which are resistant to resurrection? It seems like an interesting idea, though I would hesitate to give bonuses for selecting such a character trait: PCs would simply generate an endless string of perma-dead characters, just to gain a few extra points.
Hmmm, from a story perspective... just a thought.
An evil binder binds several vestiges to himself, but he is not able to control them (i.e. fails his binding check). He then raids some village, raping his way through the women. Several of them become pregnant, but they don't realize that they "father" of their children is actually a vestige. The soul of this child is thus tied to the place where all vestiges reside and when he dies he will go there. All of his children are similiarly cursed. They may not even know it. Eventually, you can see how this "multiplies exponentially"... first generation is sucking away a few souls from other deities. However, next generation marries into more families, so even more of a loss. If each family generates say 3 children... by generation 5 its still low, maybe 243... by generation 10 we're talking 59049. So, what happens? The "good" gods send adventurers to kill off perfectly innocent people just because of their bloodline. Ouch, that would make for a good story. |
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
    
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Posted - 31 Dec 2011 : 13:49:17
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quote: Originally posted by sleyvas
quote: Originally posted by Charles Phipps
My view of resurrection is that it actually should be used more often in books, but it shouldn't be used very commonly. I take the view that spellcasting priests capable of casting "Raise Dead" are not RARE but they're important. They're not going to raise the dead of someone not of their faith unless they have a pressing reason to. They'll do it for adventurers but only those who are directly aiding their kind.
I generally treat "Raise Dead" as a form of battlefield first aid anyway.
Yeah, I look at it as the party cleric will raise his comrades. Outside of that, the church is going to want more than just lip service and some coin. If its a church of Gond, then maybe some time spent trying to help the working community and improve their living conditions. If its a church of Milil, then perhaps they expect the renting out of an auditorium, hiring a writer to make a play/opera (which may have moral views that the church of Milil wants to present), and then presenting this play to the masses for next to nothing. The church of Ilmater may require the person to work amongst the diseased. For some churches, the aid will mostly likely be more "hands on". For instance, if its the church of Lathander, then maybe they'll request the aid of adventurers to wipe out some undead. The church of Miellikki may want someone to hunt down some Malarite poachers. Then there will be the churches who will send the person to acquire some long lost item.
Oh, and for the above, I was thinking raise dead. For an actual resurrection... that would DEFINITELY require some major service and not just cash. If the person weren't an adventurer, then he better be a person whose influence would strongly help the church politically OR have knowledge that they desperately need. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief

    
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Posted - 31 Dec 2011 : 16:21:51
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quote: Originally posted by sleyvas
quote: Originally posted by Ayrik
I wonder if there's any "bloodlines" which are resistant to resurrection? It seems like an interesting idea, though I would hesitate to give bonuses for selecting such a character trait: PCs would simply generate an endless string of perma-dead characters, just to gain a few extra points.
Hmmm, from a story perspective... just a thought.
An evil binder binds several vestiges to himself, but he is not able to control them (i.e. fails his binding check). He then raids some village, raping his way through the women. Several of them become pregnant, but they don't realize that they "father" of their children is actually a vestige. The soul of this child is thus tied to the place where all vestiges reside and when he dies he will go there. All of his children are similiarly cursed. They may not even know it. Eventually, you can see how this "multiplies exponentially"... first generation is sucking away a few souls from other deities. However, next generation marries into more families, so even more of a loss. If each family generates say 3 children... by generation 5 its still low, maybe 243... by generation 10 we're talking 59049. So, what happens? The "good" gods send adventurers to kill off perfectly innocent people just because of their bloodline. Ouch, that would make for a good story.
I don't see the good gods doing this. I see them either sending in the priests to convert these kids, or I see the gods moving against the vestiges instead.
Conversion would be more likely. And with rare exceptions, converted people should go to the current deity when they die. |
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TBeholder
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Posted - 31 Dec 2011 : 18:25:41
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quote: Originally posted by sleyvas
Assuming of course that they don't switch faiths once returned to life. After all, some evil person is resurrected... he might recall some of the afterlife somehow (usually they don't)... so he turns to a life of good. He dies and now some good deity tries to collect on his soul as well as the previous evil deity. It goes before Kelemvor and he makes a decision (maybe he sticks the fellow in the wall).
One, see "even manes want to be there, only as pit fiends" part. Two, they may not remember. So the only effect faith-wise is maybe the subject now really gets how awesome the priest's divine backing is. One more reason for limiting this to one's own patron or a very close ally.  It didn't work in any other way even for Sammaster. Occupying the Wall is a special case, of course. |
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