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Therise
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Posted - 20 Oct 2011 :  08:37:37  Show Profile Send Therise a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mantis

i have only read one of these books (Streams of silver) so for me just going off of title Plague of Spells sounds like a killer story


Plague of Spells is really awful IMO, I'd avoid it. Beyond having one of the worst "Mary Sue" style characters in the entirety of Realms fiction, the story itself is forced with really juvenile dialogue. It's not "Lovecraftian" at all.


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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 20 Oct 2011 :  13:46:44  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Is the Abolethic Sovereignty a trilogy or longer series??

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Dennis
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Posted - 20 Oct 2011 :  16:17:09  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by entreri3478

Is the Abolethic Sovereignty a trilogy or longer series??

A trilogy. AFAIK, Bruce didn't express any intention of continuing or expanding it to a longer series.

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Therise
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Posted - 20 Oct 2011 :  16:44:07  Show Profile Send Therise a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by entreri3478

Is the Abolethic Sovereignty a trilogy or longer series??


It's a trilogy, but in a sense you could say it's a quadrilogy if you count Stardeep as a sort of unofficial prequel (as "Raidon Kane" is in it as well).

They're all pretty awful IMO. For one of the "Dungeons" series books, Stardeep features one of the most uninteresting dungeons ever. Plague of Spells really doesn't have all much to do with investigating the Spellplague or Mystra's death, other than several characters having spellscars that give them extremely overpowered mutant powers. Oh, and at one point (I forget exactly where in the trilogy), they visit the Plaguelands for "answers" that end up being a waste of pages.

City of Torment is actually a little better, as you start getting a tiny bit of character development. But then the final book, Key of Stars ends up being the worst of the set. The combat scenes are painful, because everybody is overpowered, especially the spellscarred characters, and it reads like a Marvel Superheroes novel for kids.

The dialogue, in parts, is written in a jokey style that's meant to be humorous but comes off (again) in a rather juvenile manner. The final battle is hollow, nothing really is revealed about the reasons/lore/history of the rather interesting ruins seen at the end, and the final scenes are pure cheese of the "aww, he loved his mommy!" variety.

Just... ugh. The whole thing had tons of promise, and the underlying concepts, settings, characters, they all could've been very interesting. But it all just falls short.


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Edited by - Therise on 20 Oct 2011 16:49:52
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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 20 Oct 2011 :  16:59:08  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Therise

quote:
Originally posted by entreri3478

Is the Abolethic Sovereignty a trilogy or longer series??


It's a trilogy, but in a sense you could say it's a quadrilogy if you count Stardeep as a sort of unofficial prequel (as "Raidon Kane" is in it as well).

They're all pretty awful IMO. For one of the "Dungeons" series books, Stardeep features one of the most uninteresting dungeons ever. Plague of Spells really doesn't have all much to do with investigating the Spellplague or Mystra's death, other than several characters having spellscars that give them extremely overpowered mutant powers. Oh, and at one point (I forget exactly where in the trilogy), they visit the Plaguelands for "answers" that end up being a waste of pages.

City of Torment is actually a little better, as you start getting a tiny bit of character development. But then the final book, Key of Stars ends up being the worst of the set. The combat scenes are painful, because everybody is overpowered, especially the spellscarred characters, and it reads like a Marvel Superheroes novel for kids.

The dialogue, in parts, is written in a jokey style that's meant to be humorous but comes off (again) in a rather juvenile manner. The final battle is hollow, nothing really is revealed about the reasons/lore/history of the rather interesting ruins seen at the end, and the final scenes are pure cheese of the "aww, he loved his mommy!" variety.

Just... ugh. The whole thing had tons of promise, and the underlying concepts, settings, characters, they all could've been very interesting. But it all just falls short.





Hmm i guess i will put this at the bottom of my "To Read" list

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Therise
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Posted - 20 Oct 2011 :  17:35:03  Show Profile Send Therise a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by entreri3478

Hmm i guess i will put this at the bottom of my "To Read" list


When you do read it, let me know what you think.


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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 20 Oct 2011 :  17:47:42  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Therise

quote:
Originally posted by entreri3478

Hmm i guess i will put this at the bottom of my "To Read" list


When you do read it, let me know what you think.





Will do! (not anytime soon though )

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Dennis
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Posted - 22 Oct 2011 :  22:34:02  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by BARDOBARBAROS

The Shield of Weeping Ghosts

It doesn't only sound good. It also makes you think of some wonderful things. It's one of the nigh-perfect Realms novels out there. The story lives up to the promise of the title, the blurb, and the prologue.

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Dennis
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Posted - 02 Nov 2011 :  05:41:25  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

How about The Year of Rogue Dragons? Sounds catchy to me; makes me think of dragons on unbridled rampage and literally shaking the lands.

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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 02 Nov 2011 :  12:25:07  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis


How about The Year of Rogue Dragons? Sounds catchy to me; makes me think of dragons on unbridled rampage and literally shaking the lands.



I enjoyed the title for the trilogy, but the short individual book title names are not to my liking.

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Dennis
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Posted - 02 Nov 2011 :  14:44:53  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

The individual book titles are also good, especially The Ruin, but not as catchy as the trilogy's title.

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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 02 Nov 2011 :  16:55:53  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Too short for me

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Varl
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Posted - 02 Nov 2011 :  17:42:07  Show Profile Send Varl a Private Message  Reply with Quote
As titles go, I always liked the sound of Escape from Undermountain because it evokes something that sounds hard to do, depending on how far in you find yourself. I also like the titles of all the trilogies.

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Azuth
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Posted - 03 Nov 2011 :  01:41:13  Show Profile  Visit Azuth's Homepage Send Azuth a Private Message  Reply with Quote

I have to say that I liked all of the titles in The Cleric Quintet...especially The Chaos Curse

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Quale
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Posted - 03 Nov 2011 :  09:11:59  Show Profile Send Quale a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Ring of Winter, simple but effective (would be pathetic if the sequel was called The Ring of Summer tough)
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Dennis
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Posted - 03 Nov 2011 :  09:20:40  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

There was a sequel? I thought that's a stand-alone.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 03 Nov 2011 :  09:47:16  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis


There was a sequel? I thought that's a stand-alone.



There is no sequel. He was making a joke.

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Dennis
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Posted - 03 Nov 2011 :  10:02:34  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Oh.

Titles that have "ring" in them do not usually grab me, since there are quite many of them, Lord of the Rings being the prime example. Same goes to titles with "shadow."

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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 03 Nov 2011 :  13:07:31  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis


There was a sequel? I thought that's a stand-alone.



LOL Dennis, go get some more coffee

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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 03 Nov 2011 :  13:08:48  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis


Oh.

Titles that have "ring" in them do not usually grab me, since there are quite many of them, Lord of the Rings being the prime example. Same goes to titles with "shadow."



I feel the same way with other titles that use the same words over and over like the "Dragons of...." in the Dragonlance series. I enjoy a thoughtful attention grabbing title or one that makes me think of some awesome fantastical image.

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Dennis
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Posted - 03 Nov 2011 :  14:03:45  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by entreri3478

quote:
Originally posted by Dennis


There was a sequel? I thought that's a stand-alone.



LOL Dennis, go get some more coffee

I'd drunk four cups prior to posting that.

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Arcanus
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Posted - 04 Nov 2011 :  00:02:20  Show Profile  Visit Arcanus's Homepage Send Arcanus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
As each book title is trying to stand out from it's peers, I generally ignore them.
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Dennis
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Posted - 26 Dec 2011 :  00:41:58  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

In the case of series titles, I would vote War of the Spider Queen. Next on my list would be The Year of Rogue Dragons. The former rings with some preternatural chaos.

I would have to mention Richard's The Masked Witches. It sounds one of a kind, too ---if friend Google isn't lying, it's the only novel published with that title.

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Thauranil
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Posted - 07 Jul 2012 :  18:48:50  Show Profile Send Thauranil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am torn between Unholy and Scream of Stone. Both are quite evocative, but I'll have to go with Unholy its more succinct and really catches the feel of the series.
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BEAST
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Without even reading the list, the first title that came to mind was "Eighth King . . . of Mithral Haaalllllll!!!", from Streams of Silver. I can't visualize that title without dramatic muzak playing in the background of my mind, trumpets blaring and cymbals crashing and drums booming and what-not.

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Dennis
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Posted - 07 Jul 2012 :  21:12:51  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Thauranil

I am torn between Unholy and Scream of Stone. Both are quite evocative, but I'll have to go with Unholy its more succinct and really catches the feel of the series.


I'm not particularly fond of one-word titles. But Unholy rings dread and mystery that easily capture my attention.

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Thauranil
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Posted - 08 Jul 2012 :  15:46:59  Show Profile Send Thauranil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

quote:
Originally posted by Thauranil

I am torn between Unholy and Scream of Stone. Both are quite evocative, but I'll have to go with Unholy its more succinct and really catches the feel of the series.


I'm not particularly fond of one-word titles. But Unholy rings dread and mystery that easily capture my attention.


Yes it really suits the tone of the series, i quite liked the cover art of the novel as well.
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KacyCrawford
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Posted - 29 Aug 2013 :  15:23:29  Show Profile Send KacyCrawford a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'd go with The Shield of Weeping Ghosts.
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Caladan Brood
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Posted - 29 Aug 2013 :  15:46:34  Show Profile  Visit Caladan Brood's Homepage Send Caladan Brood a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I agree with SPELLFIRE. It's catchy and a cool combination of words. The setting could have been called SPELLFIRE. Reminds me of Star Wars as a title.
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charger_ss24
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Posted - 29 Aug 2013 :  18:05:54  Show Profile Send charger_ss24 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Crypt of the Shadowking stands out to me. The title (and art work) drew me into the Forgotten Realms and away from Dragonlance.
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