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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 20 Sep 2011 :  14:18:32  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
I just wanted to say that it feels great to be back posting again! Hope everyone is doing well!

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Light
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Well I for one am going to reply to this post...for no better reason than to get my count up. Well I'm doing well so thank you for hoping me well and glad that you enjoy posting again!

EDIT: Hey look at that I cracked 100!

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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 20 Sep 2011 :  16:15:28  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
lol what is the next count marker at? 500?

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Brian R. James
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Posted - 20 Sep 2011 :  16:27:12  Show Profile  Visit Brian R. James's Homepage Send Brian R. James a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Whew! I was worried there for a few. Glad to see Candlekeep back on her feet.

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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 20 Sep 2011 :  16:33:40  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Brian R. James

Whew! I was worried there for a few. Glad to see Candlekeep back on her feet.



Yeah at first i thought it was just my computer screwing up, then i checked on Facebook and saw that is was a technical issue for all.

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Dennis
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quote:
Originally posted by Brian R. James

Whew! I was worried there for a few. Glad to see Candlekeep back on her feet.

So was I. Really thought it would be down for the whole month.

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Thelonius
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Posted - 20 Sep 2011 :  16:38:47  Show Profile Send Thelonius a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

quote:
Originally posted by Brian R. James

Whew! I was worried there for a few. Glad to see Candlekeep back on her feet.

So was I. Really thought it would be down for the whole month.


I shared your fears about this breakdown, really got me worried, thought that might be the end of Candlekeep as we knew it, good I was wrong.

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The Sage
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Posted - 20 Sep 2011 :  16:52:58  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Thelonius

quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

quote:
Originally posted by Brian R. James

Whew! I was worried there for a few. Glad to see Candlekeep back on her feet.

So was I. Really thought it would be down for the whole month.


I shared your fears about this breakdown, really got me worried, thought that might be the end of Candlekeep as we knew it, good I was wrong.

You're not going to expect that I now dust off my Kosh-voice [from Babylon 5] and utter "We will always be here..." Right?

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Thelonius
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Posted - 20 Sep 2011 :  17:27:27  Show Profile Send Thelonius a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Thelonius

quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

quote:
Originally posted by Brian R. James

Whew! I was worried there for a few. Glad to see Candlekeep back on her feet.

So was I. Really thought it would be down for the whole month.


I shared your fears about this breakdown, really got me worried, thought that might be the end of Candlekeep as we knew it, good I was wrong.

You're not going to expect that I now dust off my Kosh-voice [from Babylon 5] and utter "We will always be here..." Right?


God no! Who watches Babylon 5 neways??? (sorry just had to paraphrase Sheldon there)

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Halidan
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Posted - 20 Sep 2011 :  18:57:52  Show Profile  Visit Halidan's Homepage Send Halidan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

You're not going to expect that I now dust off my Kosh-voice [from Babylon 5] and utter "We will always be here..." Right?


Sage - While I'd like to believe tha Candlekeep will always be her for us, I've already seen my second favorite Forgotten Realms site (www.MasterAo.com) die a slow death due to members leaving, no new members replacing those that left, and a general lack of interesting posts. Candlekeep is larger and thus, more resistant to those diseases, but not immune.

That said, I'm also glad to see us back and running.

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Ride, boldly ride,"
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Ayrik
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Posted - 20 Sep 2011 :  18:58:22  Show Profile Send Ayrik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Huhwut ... who *doesn't* watch Babylon 5???

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Markustay
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Posted - 20 Sep 2011 :  19:18:07  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
They stole Checkov, and therefor live in infamy in my mind.

Although I NEVER watched it, except, I think for the pilot, and Checkov wasn't in the first season (IIRC).

On that note, I caught a piece of Hawaii 5-0 last night, and has anybody else noticed they use all actors from scify shows? (Lost, BG, Heroes, etc). Talk about a desperate bid for fans (but I've seem that before... that's what Checkov was...)

And the new 2 1/2 Men blew chunks, as I knew it would.

What were we talking about? Oh yeah... glad CK is back up and running. I had high hopes it was the 2.0 Upgrade, but that probably won't be ready until my Grandkid's Grandkids have long turned to dust.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 20 Sep 2011 :  20:45:45  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

They stole Checkov, and therefor live in infamy in my mind.

Although I NEVER watched it, except, I think for the pilot, and Checkov wasn't in the first season (IIRC).

On that note, I caught a piece of Hawaii 5-0 last night, and has anybody else noticed they use all actors from scify shows? (Lost, BG, Heroes, etc). Talk about a desperate bid for fans (but I've seem that before... that's what Checkov was...)


I'd not say that having Dark Chekov on B5 had anything to do with being a desparate bid for fans... The show was already well-planned and going strong before he was on the show, and he only did a dozen episodes, maybe a full score -- across 5 seasons. He was a recurring guest star, somewhere closer to enemy than frenemy, but never quite either.

I've seen both Star Trek and B5, and I liked Bester far, far better than Chekov -- he's actually one of my fave villains. He'd also be a nifty basis for a psionic villain in a Realms campaign, I think.

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Ayrik
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Agreed with Furry Rupert: Bester was a fairly top-notch villain, better in my mind than standard James Bond archetypes because he genuinely believed - and convinced many around him - that he wasn't evil. Yes, there was the little matter of humans largely being treated like insignificant cattle since Bester's plan was ultimate genocide (or subjugation) of the "inferior" species anyhow ... that just underscores his villainy with poignant reminders to snap the audience's attention back when they start to gravitate too close to him.

To be honest, Chekov was a redundant victim character anyhow. The new (reboot) Chekov seems like the brilliant-nerd-who-magically-saves-the-day-archetype choking on a healthy heaping of no longer funny classic Chekov jokes. Bester wins.

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swifty
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Posted - 20 Sep 2011 :  22:32:27  Show Profile  Visit swifty's Homepage Send swifty a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

quote:
Originally posted by Brian R. James

Whew! I was worried there for a few. Glad to see Candlekeep back on her feet.

So was I. Really thought it would be down for the whole month.

i was worried.i even ventured over to wizards.com i was that desperate.

go back to sleep america.everything is under control.heres american gladiators.watch this.shuttup. BILL HICKS.
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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 20 Sep 2011 :  23:03:33  Show Profile Send Alystra Illianniis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Not me- I figured it was just an update or something, or maybe a temporary server crash. Glad to be back, though!

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Markustay
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Sorry for the continued derail (although, since this is a 'thank god CK is back' thread, and CK threads do have a rep for being derailed...)

And strangely, knowing next to nothing about B5, I played B5 miniatures (the only minis I still have intact, come to think of it - I left them in my Ex's attic), and played Centauri (the massive, monolithic nature of both their ships and empire appealed to my 'dark side').

Still know very little outside what background the rules provided, but I did buy a 9" Cantauri action figure that I would place on the table when I played (the emperor over-looking his troops?)

I had wanted to learn more eventually, but the series was already over and then my gaming group broke up, so I never pursued it.

Glad to see the complete randomness of thread-drift hasn't been affected by the down-time.

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sfdragon
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I was kind of hoping that Sage was busy updating the forum software......him or A....


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Dennis
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I thought the gremlins multiplied to such number that not even the SageVortex managed to suck them.

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The Sage
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Posted - 21 Sep 2011 :  01:28:22  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I'd not say that having Dark Chekov on B5 had anything to do with being a desparate bid for fans... The show was already well-planned and going strong before he was on the show, and he only did a dozen episodes, maybe a full score -- across 5 seasons. He was a recurring guest star, somewhere closer to enemy than frenemy, but never quite either.
That's pretty much how JMS responded to the character placement of Bester, as per the online transcripts for the television series.

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by sfdragon

I was kind of hoping that Sage was busy updating the forum software......him or A....



Alaundo deserves the credit. I was busy sitting on my thumbs.

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skychrome
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Huh? CK was offline? Blissful ignorance...

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Dennis


I thought the gremlins multiplied to such number that not even the SageVortex managed to suck them.

It's a locally temporal event, stretching into both the before-past and the after-future.

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Ayrik
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I still theorize that Candlekeep simply phased out of Faerūn, somehow shifting into some other planar/dimensional place where time doesn't pass. Some sort of ancient defensive system, I suspect. This theory explains why Sage's gremlin population hasn't exploded beyond a critical threshold.

Of course another theory is that something predatory hunts the gremlins, either culling surplus gremlin population or simply driving them away from the keep. I doubt gremlins would find much mechanical complexity able to sustain their perverse biology when outside of the keep, unless perhaps they infest temples of Gond or migrate to Lantan.

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Ayrik

I still theorize that Candlekeep simply phased out of Faerūn, somehow shifting into some other planar/dimensional place where time doesn't pass. Some sort of ancient defensive system, I suspect. This theory explains why Sage's gremlin population hasn't exploded beyond a critical threshold.
Ah. I've discovered the secret of Myth Adofaer. Candlekeep is the ancient Siluvanedden city's future!

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What was the actual error, from those who actually looked at it more closely/fixed it? I got the same catastrophic failure message as others would have, presumably, but didn't recognise what it was specifically. I don't know or use asp much.

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quote:
Originally posted by Eldacar

What was the actual error, from those who actually looked at it more closely/fixed it? I got the same catastrophic failure message as others would have, presumably, but didn't recognise what it was specifically. I don't know or use asp much.

It essentially came down to errors/problems with the server, and their reluctance to immediately correct what was causing the outage on the branch of the ISP responsible for maintaining Candlekeep.

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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Eldacar

What was the actual error, from those who actually looked at it more closely/fixed it? I got the same catastrophic failure message as others would have, presumably, but didn't recognise what it was specifically. I don't know or use asp much.

It essentially came down to errors/problems with the server, and their reluctance to immediately correct what was causing the outage on the branch of the ISP responsible for maintaining Candlekeep.


So Candlekeep runs on webspace provided by a hosting company on one of their servers, then (thus needing the host to fix it), rather than its own server? Or was it a completely server-side problem beyond the ability of server access to fix?

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Ayrik
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The overwhelming majority of websites you visit are actually stored and running on servers provided by some sort of "web host provider" (terminology constantly differs as quickly as marketing can reinvent it). These are basically the computers (ranging from enterprise-level server racks to actual home PCs) which store and run the server-side (back end) code that provides your web browser with client-side (front end) code to display stuff.

Web host providers usually install all sorts of extensions which can support different web formats and languages; more extensions means a wider range of differing web formats/languages (and paying web clients) can be supported. The web host is assumed to be responsible for maintaining updates, security, patches, etc, it's also plugged into a different physical broadband connection which supports a different ratio (theoretically the exact reverse) of upload:download bandwidth, and the servers promise maximum possible uptime (ie: computers run in clean cold rooms, have redundant connections, and can draw from backup power supplies/generators if needed).

Only the most affluent corporations run their own server farms in house; Google, wikipedia, Microsoft, etc. Everybody else must contract through a provider. A site like Candlekeep has far too much peak traffic to reliably run with much performance on a home PC with home/business internet connection.

This particular "8000ffff catastrophic failure" is a MySQL error, not uncommon, and usually caused when the servers update their Microsoft junk without also installing precautions against database-driver version conflicts. In short, Candlekeep's provider (Streamline.net) changed something to help one of their other clients and it broke Candlekeep, then apparently delayed for nearly one week before correcting it.

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Eldacar

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Eldacar

What was the actual error, from those who actually looked at it more closely/fixed it? I got the same catastrophic failure message as others would have, presumably, but didn't recognise what it was specifically. I don't know or use asp much.

It essentially came down to errors/problems with the server, and their reluctance to immediately correct what was causing the outage on the branch of the ISP responsible for maintaining Candlekeep.


So Candlekeep runs on webspace provided by a hosting company on one of their servers, then (thus needing the host to fix it), rather than its own server? Or was it a completely server-side problem beyond the ability of server access to fix?

Well, I can say that Alaundo is currently in the process of arranging alternate server support for Candlekeep. So these outages may not be a concern for much longer.

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Ayrik
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Might I suggest choosing one located in North America? I don't have actual numbers, but glancing through the members list suggests that most visitors are from USA ... or perhaps Europe, hard to say.

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