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AdamBridger
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Posted - 20 Aug 2011 :  11:43:07  Show Profile Send AdamBridger a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
As a fan of the Forgotten Realms novels who has never played Dungeons and Dragons, the 4th Edition of Forgotten Realms has left me slightly confused.

What has occurred in the gap of 100 or so years? Are the events explained in any novels? Would any of the Campaign or Players Guides be of any use to me?

Any information would be much appreciated.

Dennis
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Posted - 20 Aug 2011 :  12:02:51  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

No novel explained the time jump/ Spellplague. The ones that slightly touch on it are the The Haunted Lands trilogy by Richard Lee Byers; The Empyrean Odyssey by Thomas M. Reid, The Abolethic Sovereignty trilogy by Bruce R. Cordell, and (very slightly) Shadowrealm, Book 3 of the Twilight War saga by Paul S. Kemp.

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AdamBridger
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Posted - 20 Aug 2011 :  13:51:21  Show Profile Send AdamBridger a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis


No novel explained the time jump/ Spellplague. The ones that slightly touch on it are the The Haunted Lands trilogy by Richard Lee Byers; The Empyrean Odyssey by Thomas M. Reid, The Abolethic Sovereignty trilogy by Bruce R. Cordell, and (very slightly) Shadowrealm, Book 3 of the Twilight War saga by Paul S. Kemp.



Cheers. I've read The Haunted Lands and The Empyrean Odyssey and plan to read The Abalethic Soverignty soon.

Do any of the Source Books such as the Campaign or Players Guides touch on what has happenned or what the Realms are currently like?
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Wooly Rupert
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The Campaign Guide gives a rough overview of the state of the 4E Realms. It did not, to me, seem as informative as prior campaign books. And little information is provided on how the Realms of 3E became the Realms of 4E.

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Galuf the Dwarf
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One 3.5 Edition accessory you might want to look into for brief explanations of what happened is A Grand History of the Realms. In the later portions of the book, it shows in brief what has happened between the Year of Lightning Storms (1349 DR) and the beginning of the post-Spellplague era (1479 DR/Year of the Ageless One).

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by Galuf the Dwarf

One 3.5 Edition accessory you might want to look into for brief explanations of what happened is A Grand History of the Realms. In the later portions of the book, it shows in brief what has happened between the Year of Lightning Storms (1349 DR) and the beginning of the post-Spellplague era (1479 DR/Year of the Ageless One).



I will agree with this, in part -- the data is still limited, and it was also tacked on, afterward. The original compiler of the Grand History did not, as I recall, know about that additional history until the book hit the shelves.

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

The Campaign Guide gives a rough overview of the state of the 4E Realms. It did not, to me, seem as informative as prior campaign books. And little information is provided on how the Realms of 3E became the Realms of 4E.

Some of the various DDI articles attempt to "fill in the gaps" so to speak. But, for the most part, we're left with plenty of "room" on the state of the 4e Realms... to determine as we each see fit for the purposes of our own campaigns.

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Erik Scott de Bie
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Indeed, not all this info is filled in as-yet. It is gradually being revealed, but it's purposefully kept vague for the stated reasons of allowing DMs to create their own explanations, as well as give authors/designers more freedom. Not that I necessarily agree with these reasons, but then again, I've grown up playing in the Realms so I have a really firm grasp of it. If I were a complete newbie, I'd probably find the vast expanse of lore intimidating. This way, all the lore is still there, but you can gloss over most of it, only using it to appeal to players who have all that realmslore or are interested in learning it.

Basically, it's set up to appeal to new and old players alike, as all settings have to be.

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Saer Cormaeril
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You'll also want to look at the pdf document " The Spellplague: the Wailing Years".

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I technically dont want to know what happened....

for all I care, Cyric and stay trapped on his ultimate porcilon throne.

yeah I cant spell it.....

know that I'm thinking about it.... price check time

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