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Brimstone
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Posted - 06 Aug 2011 :  17:27:31  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
quote:
4E Undermountain in April 2012 with multiple adventures, random generators, etc.

Saw this mentioned in a Gencon thread on the WotC boards.

So what can certain scribes that might know about it tell us?

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Posted - 06 Aug 2011 :  18:04:27  Show Profile Send Thieran a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That sounds very interesting indeed...
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GRYPHON
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Posted - 06 Aug 2011 :  21:41:44  Show Profile Send GRYPHON a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Promising...
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Good for conversion to 3.5!!!

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Looks pretty awesome. I was consulted on this, though I didn't design it.

Garen Thal (Brian Cortijo) did a little happy jitter when he heard about it.

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quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie

Garen Thal (Brian Cortijo) did a little happy jitter when he heard about it.

Hmmm. Garen doing his happy little jitter IN Undermountain.

Now that would be something to see.

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Excellent news! Hopefully this will be the sort of adventure that really makes the Realms shine and somehow better show-cases what 4E can do. I've been a pretty hard critic with WotC adventuers as of late and I hope this shows me something new.

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Undermountain .... again? Sigh
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glitter
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quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone

quote:
4E Undermountain in April 2012 with multiple adventures, random generators, etc.

Saw this mentioned in a Gencon thread on the WotC boards.

So what can certain scribes that might know about it tell us?


Well, I hope they will manage to re-create some interesting background because without Halaster Blackcloak, for me, Undermountain isn't Undermountain anymore.

-The black knight is invincible!
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Seravin
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I just got the original box set from 2nd edition shipped to me in mint condition; very excited to open and read all the goodies inside for more realms lore.

I agree with Glitter tho, Halaster IS Undermountain, to me.
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I loved the original Undermountain boxed set, and some of the extra stuff we got for Undermountain during 2E was really good... I wasn't as impressed with the 3.5 adventure, particularly when I noted just a few pages in that there was an NPC using magic they had already taken great care to explain wasn't usable in Undermountain.

What would make me excited about this product: knowing that Ed or Steven was the primary author, and/or that Halaster was back.

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Elfinblade
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert


What would make me excited about this product: knowing that Ed or Steven was the primary author, and/or that Halaster was back.



I second that.
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Kno
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It will involve restoring Halaster

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glitter
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
What would make me excited about this product: knowing that Ed or Steven was the primary author, and/or that Halaster was back.


Well, suddenly, you remind me that question of the soul of halaster, broke into pieces that let many people think about interesting possibility into the future.
I can't find it, but I' sure in wiki about FR, a priest of Azuth was asked to find as much as possible of those pieces.

-The black knight is invincible!
- You’re a looney.

Edited by - glitter on 10 Aug 2011 12:44:50
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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by glitter

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
What would make me excited about this product: knowing that Ed or Steven was the primary author, and/or that Halaster was back.


Well, suddenly, you remind me that question of the soul of halaster, broke into pieces that let many people think about interesting possibility into the future.
I can't find it, but I' sure in wiki about FR, a priest of Azuth was asked to find as much as possible of those pieces.



That's not a reference I recognize, but I'm quite weak on post-1370ish lore.

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by glitter

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
What would make me excited about this product: knowing that Ed or Steven was the primary author, and/or that Halaster was back.


Well, suddenly, you remind me that question of the soul of halaster, broke into pieces that let many people think about interesting possibility into the future.
I can't find it, but I' sure in wiki about FR, a priest of Azuth was asked to find as much as possible of those pieces.

Maybe you're recalling something that a few of us discussed here several years back?

I remember Wooly and myself speculating on the possible future fates of Halaster-portions...

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glitter
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Posted - 11 Aug 2011 :  15:38:01  Show Profile Send glitter a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
I remember Wooly and myself speculating on the possible future fates of Halaster-portions...

I'm so frustrated when I cannot find back something ...
I will have to check the book "A grand history of the realms", perhaps it was there.
Or perhaps you're totally right and it was from a thread of that forum

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by glitter

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
I remember Wooly and myself speculating on the possible future fates of Halaster-portions...

I'm so frustrated when I cannot find back something ...
I will have to check the book "A grand history of the realms", perhaps it was there.
Or perhaps you're totally right and it was from a thread of that forum



My speculations have focused mostly on the Manshoon clone in Undermountain, working to recover the shards of Halaster's soul and becoming a sort of amalgam, part Manshoon and part Halaster. Halashoon, if you will.

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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by glitter

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
I remember Wooly and myself speculating on the possible future fates of Halaster-portions...

I'm so frustrated when I cannot find back something ...
I will have to check the book "A grand history of the realms", perhaps it was there.
Or perhaps you're totally right and it was from a thread of that forum



My speculations have focused mostly on the Manshoon clone in Undermountain, working to recover the shards of Halaster's soul and becoming a sort of amalgam, part Manshoon and part Halaster. Halashoon, if you will.

Indeed.

My own speculations somewhat mirrored Wooly's, though I tended toward deriving some points from Ed Greenwood as well. Namely, Ed had said in the past, that most of the Manshoon clones likely always followed the original Manshoon's example of having extensive fall-back plans and caches and strategies set in motion. So perhaps the Manshoon clone with Halaster had planned contingencies in place throughout Undermountain, should Halaster ever die or be destroyed.

...

Oh, and I prefer the name Manster for the Manshoon clone that had access to the disparate elements of Halaster's shattered soul.

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The event Glitter may be refering to might be one of the timeline tweets I posted a few years back. Flamsterd is no priest however, but an archmage in service to Azuth.
quote:
1376 Year of the Bent Blade

The High One charges his pupil Flamsterd with retrieving Halaster's soul-shards, scattered throughout Toril and beyond.

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quote:
Originally posted by Brian R. James

The event Glitter may be refering to might be one of the timeline tweets I posted a few years back.


Those tweets were the only reason I paid attention to Twitter... What happened to them?

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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Brian R. James

The event Glitter may be refering to might be one of the timeline tweets I posted a few years back.


Those tweets were the only reason I paid attention to Twitter... What happened to them?


I know they are in a stickied thread on the WotC forums...

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And here it is! BRJ's Twitter Timeline

"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
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quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Brian R. James

The event Glitter may be refering to might be one of the timeline tweets I posted a few years back.


Those tweets were the only reason I paid attention to Twitter... What happened to them?


I know they are in a stickied thread on the WotC forums...



No, I meant, why did he stop doing them?

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on a related note, I heard from a friend very recently that the Underdark is being done away with. Where did he get this, and is there any truth to it?

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quote:
Originally posted by Brian R. James

The event Glitter may be refering to might be one of the timeline tweets I posted a few years back. Flamsterd is no priest however, but an archmage in service to Azuth.
quote:
1376 Year of the Bent Blade

The High One charges his pupil Flamsterd with retrieving Halaster's soul-shards, scattered throughout Toril and beyond.


I always meant to follow up that little tidbit with my own workings. But when your Twitter-Timeline entries stopped, I must've forgotten to continue working on my idea.

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quote:
Originally posted by Brian R. James

The event Glitter may be refering to might be one of the timeline tweets I posted a few years back. Flamsterd is no priest however, but an archmage in service to Azuth.
quote:
1376 Year of the Bent Blade

The High One charges his pupil Flamsterd with retrieving Halaster's soul-shards, scattered throughout Toril and beyond.



Yeeeeees.
Good news, I'm not totally crazy.
Archmage ? Priest ? close enough

Anyway, even if the idea was nice to read years ago, I feared the worst after sad fate of Azuth.

EDIT: And this is where i saw it first.
http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/1376_DR

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Edited by - glitter on 12 Aug 2011 09:36:14
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