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Aryalómë
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Posted - 16 Jul 2011 :  18:43:18  Show Profile Send Aryalómë a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Poll Question:
Who is your favourite Drow deity and why?

Choices:

Kiaransalee
Lolth
Selvetarm
Vhaeraun
Ghaundaur
Zinzerena
Eilistraee

(Anonymous Vote)

Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 16 Jul 2011 :  19:04:51  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It depends on why I'm picking a drow deity.

If I want a evil drow NPC, I'd prolly go with either Ghaunadaur or Vhaeruan. I like Vhaeraun more, but it depends on the needs of the NPC. For a non-evil drow NPC (or PC), I'd go with either Eilistraee or some non-drow deity. Again, depends on the needs of the character.

In general, though, I prefer Eilistraee over the rest.

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MisterX
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Posted - 16 Jul 2011 :  20:21:50  Show Profile Send MisterX a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Lolth. Definetly.

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Penknight
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Posted - 16 Jul 2011 :  20:37:38  Show Profile Send Penknight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Vhaeraun, since he's in support of the men, and is more of a hands-on deity. You have to respect that.

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MrHedgehog
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Posted - 16 Jul 2011 :  23:03:38  Show Profile  Visit MrHedgehog's Homepage Send MrHedgehog a Private Message  Reply with Quote
For game purposes Kiaransalee is the most interesting in my opinion. I assume others agree since City of the Spider Queen focused on her = P I prefer to think after being "erased" by Q'Arlynd she returned to the realms over time... I think she is a better deity of Necromancy than Velsharoon. Velsharoon seems too stereotypical bland necromancer.
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Abenabin Gimblescrew
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Posted - 17 Jul 2011 :  01:04:45  Show Profile Send Abenabin Gimblescrew a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Eilistraee is my favorite drow deity. I like the history as to why she is a drow as a choice in order to redeem those drow of their descent into darkness with Lloth.

Lloth would probably be my evil drow choice or Kiaransalee. Not really a big fan of the others.

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Edited by - Abenabin Gimblescrew on 17 Jul 2011 01:05:27
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Posted - 17 Jul 2011 :  03:07:01  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message  Reply with Quote
None?

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The Sage
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Posted - 17 Jul 2011 :  03:18:32  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

It depends on why I'm picking a drow deity.
I'm inclined to agree.

For the most part, though, I've always liked Ghaunadaur, mostly due to the fact that he is Ed's Realms equivalent of the Gygax's Elder Elemental God, which I've also liked.

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Aryalómë
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Posted - 17 Jul 2011 :  03:22:31  Show Profile Send Aryalómë a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Awww, come onnnnn. ;D
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Dennis
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Posted - 17 Jul 2011 :  03:49:43  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Lolth, just because I hardly know the rest.

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Brimstone
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Posted - 17 Jul 2011 :  05:32:11  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ghaundaur then...

"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 17 Jul 2011 :  06:16:55  Show Profile Send Alystra Illianniis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Call me a "goody-goody", but I've always liked Eilistraee the most. She is the most sensible and level-headed of the drow deities, and the only one who does not have some ultimately self-serving goal. She made her choice out of selfless love and hope, and I love her portfolio of music, dance, and sword-work (all things which I myself love). The music and dance aspects in particular are very underrated among the drow, since they spend so much time trying to kill each other, they never seem to have any left over for simple pursuits of enjoyment. She fills that need. Her tenets of spreading joy and aiding those in need even when they behave rudely speaks to my "nice gal" side.

Now, if I were to pick an evil deity, I'd go with Zinzerrena. She is not as well-known as the others, but her independence, cleverness, and chutzpah appeal to me. She's the ultimate rogue and hunter among drow!

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Aryalómë
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Posted - 17 Jul 2011 :  06:21:37  Show Profile Send Aryalómë a Private Message  Reply with Quote
NO! Don't let her win! I'm actually quite fond of Zinzerena these days. This looks too much like The Lady Penitent Trilogy........
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Zireael
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Posted - 17 Jul 2011 :  12:37:11  Show Profile  Visit Zireael's Homepage Send Zireael a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MisterX

Lolth. Definetly.



Seconded.

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Aryalómë
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Posted - 17 Jul 2011 :  13:20:10  Show Profile Send Aryalómë a Private Message  Reply with Quote
She cannot win!!
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GRYPHON
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Posted - 17 Jul 2011 :  14:34:14  Show Profile Send GRYPHON a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Lolth...
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Aryalómë
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Posted - 17 Jul 2011 :  14:35:19  Show Profile Send Aryalómë a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Why are you letting her win???
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GRYPHON
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Posted - 17 Jul 2011 :  14:37:30  Show Profile Send GRYPHON a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Lolth is just that cool...
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Aryalómë
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Posted - 17 Jul 2011 :  15:10:45  Show Profile Send Aryalómë a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Zinzerena, Kiaransalee, and Vhaeraun will squash Lolth like the spider she is :D
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Brimstone
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Posted - 17 Jul 2011 :  15:11:30  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Erendriel Durothil

She cannot win!!


You know she will...

"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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MalariaMoon
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Posted - 17 Jul 2011 :  15:12:46  Show Profile  Visit MalariaMoon's Homepage Send MalariaMoon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Eilistraee - I like swords, music and gratuitous nudity!
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Aryalómë
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Posted - 17 Jul 2011 :  15:28:46  Show Profile Send Aryalómë a Private Message  Reply with Quote
*GASP* Eilistraee is beating Lolth! I feel sorry for Zinzerena. She's my second (maybe even first) favourite drow deity.
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Cleric Generic
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Posted - 17 Jul 2011 :  16:00:29  Show Profile  Visit Cleric Generic's Homepage Send Cleric Generic a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Kiaransalee, mostly on account of the goods in City of the Spider Queen. 'Psychotic goddess of undeath and vengeance' is pretty cool in itself, then all her wonky minions to boot. Second choice would probably be Lolth, followed closely by Eilistraee. The entire Dark Seldarine has loads of quality drama going on, I should really try to get it on the game table more...

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BARDOBARBAROS
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Posted - 17 Jul 2011 :  18:22:09  Show Profile  Visit BARDOBARBAROS's Homepage Send BARDOBARBAROS a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Eilistraee of course

BARDOBARBAROS DOES NOT KILL.
HE DECAPITATES!!!


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MrHedgehog
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Posted - 17 Jul 2011 :  20:30:06  Show Profile  Visit MrHedgehog's Homepage Send MrHedgehog a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Why is Zinzerena your favourite? What is written about her beyond two or three paragraphs in Monster Mythologies? I don't feel as if I know enough about her to even comment on her.
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Aryalómë
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Posted - 18 Jul 2011 :  01:20:26  Show Profile Send Aryalómë a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I find her extremely intriging, there's a lot more lore regarding her, especially non FR related stuff. She is actually still alive in the other settings. I like how she's chaotic neutral and seeks the down fall of Lolth. It's really interesting that she was so powerful a rogue, that she rose to divinity (either when she triked Keptolo or when drow started to worship her). I just like her a lot.
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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 18 Jul 2011 :  01:33:02  Show Profile Send Alystra Illianniis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
She's got the guts to forge her own path. I like that a lot. She is also less concerned with some all-encompassing goal of conquest, which makes her less the typical drow deity, too.

The Goddess is alive, and magic is afoot.

"Where Science ends, Magic begins" -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491

"You idiots! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -Spaceballs

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Aryalómë
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Posted - 18 Jul 2011 :  01:37:13  Show Profile Send Aryalómë a Private Message  Reply with Quote
@Allystra-Are we going to continue to rp at the inn? xD

I also feel that she's an underdog, someone who could have really been brought into force in the Realms, but WotC decided differently...... I like that she's not really evil and not all goodness and light too and not concerned about going back to the surface.
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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 18 Jul 2011 :  01:51:25  Show Profile Send Alystra Illianniis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm still waiting for CT to reply. I didn't have much to add to the last post, so I thought I'd see what he is going to do first.


Personally, I thought they could have/should have done a lot of things differently on that score. For one thing, Eil's change to the Masked Lady was far too short. There was much more that could have been done with that.

The Goddess is alive, and magic is afoot.

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"You idiots! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -Spaceballs

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Aryalómë
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Posted - 18 Jul 2011 :  02:20:46  Show Profile Send Aryalómë a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Do you think Zinzerena would have gotten along with the Seldarine. None of her lore states she has any bad feelings towards them, maybe she could be allied with Erevan?
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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 18 Jul 2011 :  02:50:21  Show Profile Send Alystra Illianniis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'd say she would more likely ally with Vaerhaun- both being rogues, y'know.

The Goddess is alive, and magic is afoot.

"Where Science ends, Magic begins" -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491

"You idiots! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -Spaceballs

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