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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High

Australia
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Posted - 24 Jun 2011 :  05:52:12  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GMWestermeyer

quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

Just a note to let you guys know that much of the "meat" of Steven's C-Keep book list came as a whole (likely from that wellspring of ideas known as his noggin' and likely with the input of Ed as well). This original list is not gleaned from the FR sources and was created "whole cloth".

The later additions to the list are from Ed's (and others) FR writings. The product citations for these latter books etc. can be noted, but there will be gaps.

-- George Krashos




That's great, but it would have been helpful if they had noted that in the work.

Sorry, it's just a pet peeve of mine, I have to cite sources religiously at work, it's the only way to ethically do history, and I get upset when i can determine where something originated.

But since that list is free, I shouldn't complain.

You need not fret, GM. I'm committed to ensuring each and every reference is properly sourced.

I'm the same with practically everything I work on that's based on shared-world material. My extensive composition of musical Realmslore, for example, notes author, creator-of-lore, page reference, chapter [where applicable], source-title, edition, and, finally, year published.

I've tried to maintain much the same for my work on the book lists.

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GMWestermeyer
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Posted - 26 Jun 2011 :  16:25:06  Show Profile  Visit GMWestermeyer's Homepage Send GMWestermeyer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
You need not fret, GM. I'm committed to ensuring each and every reference is properly sourced.

I'm the same with practically everything I work on that's based on shared-world material. My extensive composition of musical Realmslore, for example, notes author, creator-of-lore, page reference, chapter [where applicable], source-title, edition, and, finally, year published.

I've tried to maintain much the same for my work on the book lists.



Awesome. :) Is the music lore available for download somewhere? I'd love that as well. :)

"Facts are meaningless. You can use facts to prove anything that is even remotely true."
Homer Simpson, _The Simspons_
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The Sage
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Posted - 26 Jun 2011 :  17:08:39  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Not as of yet. That is still an ongoing project as well, for the most part. The majority of published Realms sources have all been reviewed... it's simply a matter of translating my hand-written notes to the electronic medium.

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sleyvas
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Posted - 26 Jun 2011 :  18:09:43  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

I still make use of this web article that Steven made so many years ago.

http://www.wizards.com/forgottenrealms/FR_20001129b_P2.asp



Wow, this so rarely happens, they actually had to make it a book title, "The Nymph Says No". Hmmm, I wonder if Greenwood invented that one.

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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 26 Jun 2011 :  18:39:34  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Of course Ed did. It's based on a real 1950s lurid paperback, "The Nude Said No." Which was incredibly tame by the standards of nowadays. Ed has many times related finding and reading this book in his father's den, and spending years searching the den (and later, everywhere else) for the mythical sequel, "The Nude Said Yes."

More interestingly, Ed wrote at least a solid uninterrupted page of every last book he's invented for the Realms, down the years. I've been pushing TSR and later WotC to publish a collection of them for DM use, thus far without success.

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Halidan
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Posted - 26 Jun 2011 :  22:16:08  Show Profile  Visit Halidan's Homepage Send Halidan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

More interestingly, Ed wrote at least a solid uninterrupted page of every last book he's invented for the Realms, down the years. I've been pushing TSR and later WotC to publish a collection of them for DM use, thus far without success.


THO, you are my Don Quixote (and I would welcome the chance to be your Sancho ). Pushing TSR and WotC to print something is akin to tilting at windmills. It must be done, but stands very little chance of sucess.

Keep up your heroic efforts, for they will be rewarded in time.

"Over the Mountains
Of the Moon
Down the Valley of the Shadow,
Ride, boldly ride,"
The shade replied,
"If you seek for Eldorado!"

Edgar Allen Poe - 1849

Edited by - Halidan on 26 Jun 2011 22:17:53
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 26 Jun 2011 :  22:57:41  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Of course Ed did. It's based on a real 1950s lurid paperback, "The Nude Said No." Which was incredibly tame by the standards of nowadays. Ed has many times related finding and reading this book in his father's den, and spending years searching the den (and later, everywhere else) for the mythical sequel, "The Nude Said Yes."

More interestingly, Ed wrote at least a solid uninterrupted page of every last book he's invented for the Realms, down the years. I've been pushing TSR and later WotC to publish a collection of them for DM use, thus far without success.

love,
THO



Add game stats. That'll get it published.

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The Sage
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Posted - 27 Jun 2011 :  02:48:36  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

More interestingly, Ed wrote at least a solid uninterrupted page of every last book he's invented for the Realms, down the years. I've been pushing TSR and later WotC to publish a collection of them for DM use, thus far without success.
I'd love to see that page.

What's the likelihood that Ed could one day share snippets of it with us here at Candlekeep?

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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 27 Jun 2011 :  05:51:19  Show Profile Send Alystra Illianniis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Halidan

quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

More interestingly, Ed wrote at least a solid uninterrupted page of every last book he's invented for the Realms, down the years. I've been pushing TSR and later WotC to publish a collection of them for DM use, thus far without success.


THO, you are my Don Quixote (and I would welcome the chance to be your Sancho ). Pushing TSR and WotC to print something is akin to tilting at windmills. It must be done, but stands very little chance of success.

Keep up your heroic efforts, for they will be rewarded in time.



You can't be Sancho! "Because I- I am Sancho...." (Those who have seen the movie "Orgasmo" will get this one...)

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Edited by - Alystra Illianniis on 27 Jun 2011 05:52:44
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