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Chosen of Asmodeus
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 08 Apr 2011 : 12:11:00
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Its a popular practice in the warcraft roleplaying community, as well. To an annoying degree. I'll give them sorceress and priestess, and very begrudgingly will I give them huntress. But when they start going on about their druidesses and their roguesses and their orcesses and their trollesses and their taurenesses do I put my foot down. Like trying to plug a dike with a fat kid's finger, though. |
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Jelennet
Learned Scribe
Russia
131 Posts |
Posted - 08 Apr 2011 : 12:32:14
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Strangely enough the biggest online english-russian dictionary states that wizard is only male. |
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Chosen of Asmodeus
Master of Realmslore
1221 Posts |
Posted - 08 Apr 2011 : 12:37:33
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Well, outside of dnd, the separation between wizard and sorcerer is less defined. In the generic magic user sense, most females would be called sorceress. In the context of dnd, wizard is gender neutral. |
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
USA
4211 Posts |
Posted - 08 Apr 2011 : 17:52:21
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One of the reasons I prefer the old phrase "magic user" |
The Old Grey Box and AD&D for me! |
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Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 09 Apr 2011 : 09:18:22
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Outside D&D, wizard is commonly gender-neuter.
I myself am not comfortable with "magic user." Almost anything can be paired with user. Too generic. |
Every beginning has an end. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36798 Posts |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3567 Posts |
Posted - 10 Apr 2011 : 00:58:28
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quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I've always liked mage, myself.
I prefer a good magess |
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Tren of Twilight Tower
Seeker
51 Posts |
Posted - 10 Apr 2011 : 03:13:36
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quote: Originally posted by Jelennet
I'd better become a sorceress. More tactical opportunities. Besides I could never choose between so many interesting schools. Hey, I'm just curious... English isn't my first language and I have a question. How do you call a female wizard? A wizardess?
Wiz-chick?
And on the topic at hand, I would agree with anyone who prefers wizard-"generalist". Specialization limits my horizon, shortens choices and reduces versatility.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36798 Posts |
Posted - 10 Apr 2011 : 03:55:30
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quote: Originally posted by Jelennet
Strangely enough the biggest online english-russian dictionary states that wizard is only male.
That may be a limitation of one or both languages. There are a lot of words and concepts that don't adequately translate from one language to another. |
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Laerrigan
Learned Scribe
USA
195 Posts |
Posted - 11 Apr 2011 : 06:12:15
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Transmutation, divination, enchantment, in that order. Explore, learn, and keep people from being annoying.
No...in all seriousness, I couldn't mess with minds. No more so than with persuasive writing, anyway. |
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
USA
3750 Posts |
Posted - 11 Apr 2011 : 06:27:00
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And we all know how "persuasive" a vampire can be, eh Laerrigan? LOL!!! Seriously, I would go with gender-neutral mage or wizard, or witch or sorceress for females. Druidess is actually a proper term, as is huntress, and I'll even give you drowess, but I draw the line at orcess and trolless.... Then again, I PREFER going troll-less..... |
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Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 11 Apr 2011 : 10:05:32
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quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote: Originally posted by Jelennet
Strangely enough the biggest online english-russian dictionary states that wizard is only male.
That may be a limitation of one or both languages. There are a lot of words and concepts that don't adequately translate from one language to another.
Indeed.
Wizard is gender-neuter in Filipino. Magician, too. If you want to be gender-specific, you can say majikero for male and majikera for female. Witch, on the other hand, [which is translated as mangkukulam] refers to a female magic user who specializes in all sorts of curses. |
Every beginning has an end. |
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ChieftainTwilight
Learned Scribe
171 Posts |
Posted - 12 Apr 2011 : 02:39:49
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in WoW (a game I'm not fond of, but the storyline of which I adore), the Trolls were the first intelligent race among the playable races, and they are still the best. ****ing elves ****ed thir poopy up for no good reason. >.> AND brought the Scourge to Azaroth!
Mod edit: Language, please. |
and a heart can only break so many times and I've been to hell and back so many times and I've seen folks walk away so many times but just like anyone else I gotta stand up by myself and a heart can only break so many times a heart can only break so many times
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Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 12 Apr 2011 : 03:01:48
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I loathe WoW's elves nearly as much as FR's. As for the trolls, I'm completely apathetic to them. |
Every beginning has an end. |
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Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 12 Apr 2011 : 06:16:25
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As Elfinblade deleted his post, I see no reason for the continued existence of my rather acerbic reply. [So there, as requested, I deleted that post.]
I don't like to start a heated argument that contributes nothing to me nor to the other party. My post was nothing but a reaction. And I hope that ends it. |
Every beginning has an end. |
Edited by - Dennis on 12 Apr 2011 16:33:07 |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36798 Posts |
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Elfinblade
Senior Scribe
Norway
377 Posts |
Posted - 12 Apr 2011 : 10:57:08
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I apologize Dennis. I was in a foul mood, and let you have the business end of it. |
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Xar Zarath
Senior Scribe
Malaysia
552 Posts |
Posted - 11 May 2011 : 09:51:56
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Going by 3.5e i would pick Necromancy first with conjuration being second with transmutation and divination a close third |
Everything ends where it begins. Period.
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ChieftainTwilight
Learned Scribe
171 Posts |
Posted - 11 May 2011 : 16:40:31
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quote: Originally posted by Dennis
I loathe WoW's elves nearly as much as FR's. As for the trolls, I'm completely apathetic to them.
realy, you don't hate them more? o_O; I hate the WoW Elves, but realy adore the FR Elves. |
and a heart can only break so many times and I've been to hell and back so many times and I've seen folks walk away so many times but just like anyone else I gotta stand up by myself and a heart can only break so many times a heart can only break so many times
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Thente Thunderspells
Seeker
USA
65 Posts |
Posted - 11 May 2011 : 17:24:59
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My preference would be Generalist Wizard
If I had to choose... Enchantment, Evocation, or Transmutation, <evil laugh on>dominate me some industrial tycoons and live off their wealth!<evil laugh off> |
The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool. - Shakespeare |
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Xar Zarath
Senior Scribe
Malaysia
552 Posts |
Posted - 12 May 2011 : 04:55:36
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Personally something about necromancy makes me feel all fuzzy inside, especially when animating corpses to do my bidding |
Everything ends where it begins. Period.
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Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 12 May 2011 : 07:33:43
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Indeed. As Szass Tam [or was it someone else?] once said that nothing in this world is useless, for even the dead have their purpose: to serve. |
Every beginning has an end. |
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Rooster
Acolyte
USA
1 Posts |
Posted - 12 May 2011 : 09:06:59
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Plain old wizard. I just like the freedom of spell choice. Either that or it was because spell scrolls were hard to come by in the campaigns that I played in. If you had to purchase them they would clean out your coin bag before you even had a chance to replace the components for other spells. The DM's always kept it interesting, I never had a character that came close to maxing out the known spells per level and most if not all my magic using characters never had an intelligence score above 17. When starting out for a new adventure, or just traveling from one city to another in FR you really had to use good judgment on what spells to memorize. I think that out of all the players I met years ago 100% of them played your basic mage/sorceress. |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3287 Posts |
Posted - 12 May 2011 : 11:47:42
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EDIT: FOR THIS RULE I AM USE A RULE FROM THE PATHFINDER PLAYTEST PDF.
Pathfinder Wizard. Chose a specialty school. If and or when you need to prepare a forbidden school, you lose all specialty bonuses for only that day... |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding." Alaundo of Candlekeep |
Edited by - Brimstone on 13 May 2011 00:58:25 |
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AleksanderTheGreat
Seeker
90 Posts |
Posted - 12 May 2011 : 12:51:14
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quote: Originally posted by Brimstone
Pathfinder Wizard. Chose a specialty school. If and or when you need to prepare a forbidden school, you lose all specialty bonuses for only that day...
What? Where do you get that from? "Arcane School
A wizard can choose to specialize in one school of magic, gaining additional spells and powers based on that school. This choice must be made at 1st level, and once made, it cannot be changed. A wizard that does not select a school receives the universalist school instead.
A wizard that chooses to specialize in one school of magic must select two other schools as his opposition schools, representing knowledge sacrificed in one area of arcane lore to gain mastery in another. A wizard who prepares spells from his opposition schools must use two spell slots of that level to prepare the spell. For example, a wizard with evocation as an opposition school must expend two of his available 3rd-level spell slots to prepare a fireball. In addition, a specialist takes a -4 penalty on any skill checks made when crafting a magic item that has a spell from one of his opposition schools as a prerequisite. A universalist wizard can prepare spells from any school without restriction.
Each arcane school gives the wizard a number of school powers. In addition, specialist wizards receive an additional spell slot of each spell level he can cast, from 1st on up. Each day, a wizard can prepare a spell from his specialty school in that slot. This spell must be in the wizard's spellbook. A wizard can select a spell modified by a metamagic feat to prepare in his school slot, but it uses up a higher-level spell slot. Wizards with the universalist school do not receive a school slot." |
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Edited by - AleksanderTheGreat on 12 May 2011 12:52:49 |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3287 Posts |
Posted - 12 May 2011 : 14:08:20
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The playtest pdf. |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding." Alaundo of Candlekeep |
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AleksanderTheGreat
Seeker
90 Posts |
Posted - 12 May 2011 : 14:11:48
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So... you're wrong? |
Fighting for order! - Join me in the battle! |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3287 Posts |
Posted - 12 May 2011 : 14:13:14
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It's all in the Eye of the Beholder... |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding." Alaundo of Candlekeep |
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AleksanderTheGreat
Seeker
90 Posts |
Posted - 12 May 2011 : 14:15:29
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Dude, you LOVE to spam worthless posts, don't you?
Could you stop that? |
Fighting for order! - Join me in the battle! |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3287 Posts |
Posted - 12 May 2011 : 14:16:20
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No.
You asked a question, I answered it. You asked another question, I answered it. You asked another question, I answered it. It's all in the Eye of the Beholder...(Sage, we need a beholder smilie!)
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"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding." Alaundo of Candlekeep |
Edited by - Brimstone on 12 May 2011 14:20:09 |
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