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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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 Posted - 01 Nov 2003 : 05:43:10
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By now, alot of you probably know how much I love to integrate elements of the Planescape setting into my FR campaigns.
Besides adding elements from PS, I also like to 'snatch' interesting tidbits from other official and non-official settings and source material - that means everything I have, everything my players have, and everything I can bother to get my hands on. I then like to find different ways to incorporate these tidbits into, either my currently running official game world campaigns (FR, DL, PS, and RL), or my separate homebrew world that is always, 'under construction'.
Official material can be from any setting, from any publishing group, and even from games which have nothing to do with d20. Some of you know how a number of nations and continents from my homebrew world of 'Amasaria' have been moderately influenced by ideas from such varied sources as Warhammer/Warhammer 40K, and the Classic Battletech game. My non-official material (by this I mean non-RPG related) sources can include, things read in novels, from movies, the imagination (obviously), internet role-playing forums (like this one  )...and nearly everywhere else, especially when I am running Planescape.
So, anyway, basically what I want to know is, what settings are you running and playing in?. What other settings have influence in your campaign?. Where do you get you idea from?. What settings interest you?. And lastly, what settings do you refuse to play in and why?.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 01 Nov 2003 : 05:45:36
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I can't really list all the other campaign and non-campaign books I use, since I have so many of them now. In fact, I still use my old 2e books for flavor information or to 'snatch' an old idea and make it new through 3e. It's definately not a good idea to sell off your 2e books...
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William of Waterdeep
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 01 Nov 2003 : 06:01:46
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Originally posted by Sage of Perth
I can't really list all the other campaign and non-campaign books I use, since I have so many of them now. In fact, I still use my old 2e books for flavor information or to 'snatch' an old idea and make it new through 3e. It's definately not a good idea to sell off your 2e books...
Does this include material from Spelljammer? I didn't see It mentioned and although I know very little about it myself,I think I remember from a post that you are a fan.So far it sounds very interesting as I thought it would be.Have you drawn maps and other charts that are visual aids for this world? |
Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 01 Nov 2003 : 06:14:34
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Yes, I use Spelljammer material rather frequently, but I utilise a ship movement/combat system more in line with the Star Wars d20/Star*Drive(Alternity) hybrid that was created by a number of WotC forum users a few years back.
As for visual aids...yes, I do have a number of maps, mostly world-wide maps, illustrating political divisions, climatic information, and era-based maps. I have some nation-specific maps also. However, I only produce these aids, when I am going to be using that part of the world in my campaigns, otherwise it stays undeveloped until I generate the relevant source material for the region.
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
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Posted - 01 Nov 2003 : 06:24:07
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Well, I don't know what's in it. You're the DM in charge!  And I still don't even know what area of Faerun my character is in, much less what he's going to do now that he's trapped there. (Well, aside from finding a way home -- perhaps a little plane-trotting?  )
On the other hand, all this time has really given me a feel for this character, so it's not a total loss.  |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 01 Nov 2003 : 06:38:04
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| Well, at least my character isn't clock-watching. His watch got fried. |
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
2080 Posts |
Posted - 01 Nov 2003 : 10:52:36
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Well im also a great fan of the Ravenloft campaign. I was sad to see it discontinued years ago and rejoiced when it was relaunched by White Wolf (although i cant say im that impressed with what theyve done so far). The horror element adds that little bit more spice to a Realms campaign. Ive also run crossover adventures between FR and RL with another DM to tie the adventurers to both worlds as well.
Ive started collecting Al-Qadim over the past couple of years, primarily because it was later decided that Zakhara was on Toril! But I may use some of that material in my FR campaign when the time arises.
Probably the only campaign setting I wont use is Spelljammer. I dont think it belongs in the Realms at all!!
With more d20 material being produced, I have become quite intrigued to use some of it in the Realms campaign too. |
Lord Rad
"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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William of Waterdeep
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 01 Nov 2003 : 14:41:45
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Rad my friend,do you have your own world or do you use the ones ready
made by TSR/WotC? Do you allow other worlds to connect freely or do you follow strict rules? How much does PS and specifically Sigal play in your campaign? |
Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 01 Nov 2003 : 15:56:43
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| I mix up stuff from most any material I have, from various D20 supplements, to Charles DeLint's various Newford novels, to(once)Rainbow Six. The piece that has had the greatest effect upon my FR campaigns, is my homebrew setting of Aslari. Aslari is completely different from the average D&D setting, with nothing resembling several D&D staples(such as goblins, dwarves, halflings, and the normal elf). A few pieces from it have popped up here and there through the forums, but nothing really different. Quite a bit of the setting(and the reasons for it) is shrouded in mystery. Eventually, I hope to put my notes up somewhere online. |
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William of Waterdeep
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 01 Nov 2003 : 17:35:44
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| I would like to see them when you do.I would really like to see the maps and charts that everyone has made.Do you draw all this by hand or do you use software? |
Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 Nov 2003 : 19:21:12
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Originally posted by William of Waterdeep
Rad my friend,do you have your own world or do you use the ones ready
made by TSR/WotC? Do you allow other worlds to connect freely or do you follow strict rules? How much does PS and specifically Sigal play in your campaign?
I run all my campaigns in the official Forgotten Realms setting and use published adventures which I will flesh out considerably. I dont use Planescape at all as I feel it should be treated as a seperate campaign in its own right. |
Lord Rad
"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 01 Nov 2003 : 19:31:47
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| I generally do my maps by hand. For the online notes, I'll eventually learn how to use CC2, and create some electronic maps. It'll be quite a while, as I hope to organize and present the notes as a triad of books, kind of like the old boxed sets. I'm rewriting game content as I go, and cleaning up the geography and history(which both had artifacts left over from many different versions). William, that template you asked for will be in there, along with it's proper references and abilities. |
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William of Waterdeep
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 01 Nov 2003 : 23:14:29
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Originally posted by Rad
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Originally posted by William of Waterdeep
Rad my friend,do you have your own world or do you use the ones ready
made by TSR/WotC? Do you allow other worlds to connect freely or do you follow strict rules? How much does PS and specifically Sigal play in your campaign?
I run all my campaigns in the official Forgotten Realms setting and use published adventures which I will flesh out considerably. I dont use Planescape at all as I feel it should be treated as a seperate campaign in its own right.
Rad,Perhaps it should have been a seperate campaign in its own rights but like Al-Qadim it is tied to FR.How you say!!!? All through the novels,adventures,pc games,etc FR used areas,monsters and items from PS.Tell me I'm wrong or show me I'm wrong.Sorry Rad,I am not being fair to you.You answered my question honestly,Its just one of those things that boils my blood. |
Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.
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William of Waterdeep
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 01 Nov 2003 : 23:21:04
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Originally posted by Arivia
I generally do my maps by hand. For the online notes, I'll eventually learn how to use CC2, and create some electronic maps. It'll be quite a while, as I hope to organize and present the notes as a triad of books, kind of like the old boxed sets. I'm rewriting game content as I go, and cleaning up the geography and history(which both had artifacts left over from many different versions). William, that template you asked for will be in there, along with it's proper references and abilities.
Oh good deal Arivia,sounds like you are very organized already.Maybe we can help each other out later on with design techniques on maps. |
Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 Nov 2003 : 23:50:48
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Originally posted by William of Waterdeep
Rad,Perhaps it should have been a seperate campaign in its own rights but like Al-Qadim it is tied to FR.How you say!!!? All through the novels,adventures,pc games,etc FR used areas,monsters and items from PS.Tell me I'm wrong or show me I'm wrong.Sorry Rad,I am not being fair to you.You answered my question honestly,Its just one of those things that boils my blood.
Hmmmm, well I guess all campaign worlds have links to Planescape in a way that the planes affect all worlds, but I wouldnt say that Sigil etc. feature within the Realms. The whole atmosphere and style of gaming in Planescape is different to FR is really what I was trying to get across But in some ways you are right, William, and Prince of Lies does have a Planescape feel about it, especially the use of calling beings "Blood" etc. |
Lord Rad
"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 02 Nov 2003 : 00:49:05
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| I was organized...until an error claimed most of my notes...and I lost the rest. |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 02 Nov 2003 : 01:24:27
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| It's odd, but I can't bring myself to play in DL. I've seen some great adventures, but it's always struck me as a setting designed for novels, over games. I also don't particularly like Al-Qadim or OA-styled settings. |
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William of Waterdeep
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 02 Nov 2003 : 01:37:38
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Rad said-
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Hmmmm, well I guess all campaign worlds have links to Planescape in a way that the planes affect all worlds, but I wouldnt say that Sigil etc. feature within the Realms. The whole atmosphere and style of gaming in Planescape is different to FR is really what I was trying to get across But in some ways you are right, William, and Prince of Lies does have a Planescape feel about it, especially the use of calling beings "Blood" etc.
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Rad,I agree that Sigil isn't tied in, other than the computer games but many of the creatures that exist on PS have been used in FR.Even the gods of Toril are listed in my PS2e material.It doesn't really matter any more but I couldn't see WotC dropping PS.
I wonder what the LoP will do to them for that?Most people who were into the Fallout games that Black Isle made are upset for about the same thing.
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I was organized...until an error claimed most of my notes...and I lost the rest.
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I remember that happening,but you are young and resourceful and you will have it all back together better than before. |
Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 02 Nov 2003 : 02:21:00
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A little something to whet your appetite, William:
The Green Wanderers
The Green Wanderers are Aslari's organized force of explorers. They are responsible for most everything known about Aslari's interior. They guard against barbarian raids from Cluime, and join the closest army during an Invasion to guide them through the untamed wilds of the Interior to wherever the demons currently are attacking. They were responsible for what small amount of the Leiranian army survived the slaughter at Namaer's Vale. With the last Invasion having just ended, the Green Wanderers have returned to their duties. Unfortunately, the near-defeat that occured during the last Invasion has splintered the Wanderers, dividing them upon national lines. Those that saved the Leiranian army at Namaer's Vale have taken to calling themselves Green Blades, and push at meetings for a military campaign to eradicate the barbarians of Cluime. Navale Narais(NG male Cloudian Rgr10/Green Wanderer3) leads this faction. Those who survived the attrition campaign in the mountains of Cloudian-Asan are pushing for more aggresive scouting inside Cluime. They call themselves Wandering Eyes, and Iessir Neraviir(CG male Ieciari Brd7/Rgr3/Green Wanderer2/Trickster Flutist 2)has nominal control of the group. The last faction wishes to continue with the old policies. High Wanderer Aaamon Taar(LN male Aylarian Ftr5/Rgr5/Green Wanderer5) leads the Green Wanderers as a whole, and leads this group. |
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William of Waterdeep
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 02 Nov 2003 : 02:31:50
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More...More...Indeed,that is good Arivia!! You have a very good and focused imagination.You know I eat this stuff up. |
Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 02 Nov 2003 : 02:38:53
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| Ask some questions about the above information, and I'll respond. |
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William of Waterdeep
Senior Scribe
USA
829 Posts |
Posted - 02 Nov 2003 : 02:52:56
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Originally posted by Arivia
Ask some questions about the above information, and I'll respond.
Okay,could you tell me the races/Prestige classes and other specific info on the patrol. |
Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 02 Nov 2003 : 03:22:22
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Well, to start, I should give a geography lesson.
I'm sending you a very rough map, which is solely intended to point out where Cluime is.
Cluime is essentially the unsettled wild at the center of Aslari. Barbarian tribes have lived there as long as anyone can remember. These tribes are very aggresive, and frequently launch raids at the countries around Cluime(which is the rest of Aslari.) The Green Wanderers are basically the advance guards against these incursions. They also have an onrunning project to map Cluime. The Wanderers are a volunteer service, so people from all walks of life have been members. Generally, members are Radiir or Solari elves or Aylarians, and are usually bards, rangers, or non-Shelaniran druids. I will design a Green Wanderer prestige class, although this isn't a requirement to be a member of the organization.
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William of Waterdeep
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Posted - 02 Nov 2003 : 04:24:26
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| Okay thanks.I guess I should be looking for it.the map. |
Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.
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Arivia
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Canada
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 02 Nov 2003 : 05:13:01
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| Those Green Wanderers remind me a bit of a profession I created in a really old story of mine, the eldani ranger. I made a distinction between rangers who preserve the forest (like ours today) and the eldani rangers, who defended it and the nation. They were more like the classic fantasy ranger, but without any spells; normal ones were like non-magical druids, serving as caretakers and making sure no one abused the natural balance. |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 02 Nov 2003 : 06:30:22
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| By the way, Ariva, if you send me a map that has some reasonable detail, I'll make you a choice between a computer-generated version or one done by hand. On computer, it'll have color, but by hand it will look . . . well, hand-drawn. |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 02 Nov 2003 : 06:35:13
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| Thanks for the offer, Bookwyrm. I'll take you up on it, once I get a few climate issues straightened out and finish placing a few things. You'll probably get the map by next Saturday. |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 02 Nov 2003 : 06:37:05
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Great. I need something to do during lectures.  |
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Arivia
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Canada
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Posted - 02 Nov 2003 : 06:42:02
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| And I'm doing this now because I need something to do during Computer Engineering. |
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