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jordanz
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 Posted - 25 Feb 2011 : 02:06:05
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Originally posted by Therise
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Originally posted by Kilvan
The full statistics and description for Antropals can be found in the Epic Level Handbook 3.0 p.159. Like anything in that book, it is quite powerful.
I'd never heard of this (even though I own the book), so I had to go look it up.
And good lord the artwork for it... one of the most disgusting monsters I've ever seen. 
Edit: Ah, I just realized, this atropal, or atropal scion anyway, is what the undead monster-baby-thing in The Haunted Lands series was supposed to be. Nasty.
Nasty yes. Epic level?? Xingag seemed far from it. |
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Therise
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 25 Feb 2011 : 02:22:08
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Originally posted by jordanz
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Originally posted by Therise
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Originally posted by Kilvan
The full statistics and description for Antropals can be found in the Epic Level Handbook 3.0 p.159. Like anything in that book, it is quite powerful.
I'd never heard of this (even though I own the book), so I had to go look it up.
And good lord the artwork for it... one of the most disgusting monsters I've ever seen.
Edit: Ah, I just realized, this atropal, or atropal scion anyway, is what the undead monster-baby-thing in The Haunted Lands series was supposed to be. Nasty.
Nasty yes. Epic level?? Xingag seemed far from it.
Actually, I never finished the first book in the trilogy, so I'm not sure how it ended. I think the one in the book was supposed to be the weaker version, though: the atropal scion. It was carried around by another undead, but had that same fetal undead look as the more epic atropal.
Seriously, just... eewww.
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Ayrik
Great Reader
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Posted - 28 Feb 2011 : 06:42:28
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Xingax is not only an atropal but also an aborted demigod. I think his powers (in the novels) are beyond those of a typical atropal scion, though that's debatable. His quasi-demipower parentage seems to just be NPC-background story fluff, we aren't even told the identity (or gender) of his divine parent.
Strictly speaking I don't think undeath applies to gods. To be undead you must first be dead and gods do not die forever. Undead lichery or ghostiness or whatever is really only a cosmetic manifestation imposed by the god (or the god's followers), though it might offer or explain various "undead" abilities and effects. |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 28 Feb 2011 : 10:51:02
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Lets not forget the Banelich... |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
8066 Posts |
Posted - 28 Feb 2011 : 12:27:36
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| Nor all those female Banshee variants Elminster is fond of conversing with ... |
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Kno
Senior Scribe
452 Posts |
Posted - 01 Mar 2011 : 17:11:17
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Living Wall full of atropals
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 01 Mar 2011 : 17:48:21
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Originally posted by Kno
Living Wall full of atropals
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Living Walls are sick  |
Karsite Arcanar (Most Holy Servant of Karsus)
Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me:
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Synthalus
Learned Scribe
USA
170 Posts |
Posted - 01 Mar 2011 : 20:24:10
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Living Wall full of atropals.
my god! what in the realms could get past such a thing as this? |
"That is not dead which can eternal lie,
And with strange aeons even death may die."
— H.P. Lovecraft (The Call of Cthulhu and Other Weird Stories) |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 02 Mar 2011 : 11:45:28
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Originally posted by Synthalus
Living Wall full of atropals.
my god! what in the realms could get past such a thing as this?
A ghost...ooooooo  |
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Synthalus
Learned Scribe
USA
170 Posts |
Posted - 02 Mar 2011 : 11:53:39
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| touche alisttair.......... |
"That is not dead which can eternal lie,
And with strange aeons even death may die."
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 02 Mar 2011 : 12:03:21
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touche alisttair..........
Yeah and I don't mean Patrick Swayze 
But a wall, they could rule the room they are in, but not much other than that |
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coach
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 05 Mar 2011 : 02:46:59
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Orcus - Undead god
not sure if it can get higher than that unless Ao is undead |
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 05 Mar 2011 : 02:55:48
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Larloch = The Lich Supreme. He may not be an undead god like Orcus, but I'm almost sure he's done more innovations in the process of achieving undeath than the undead god himself. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 05 Mar 2011 : 03:45:36
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Originally posted by Synthalus
Living Wall full of atropals.
my god! what in the realms could get past such a thing as this?
Lathander and Kelemvor. |
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
8066 Posts |
Posted - 05 Mar 2011 : 03:47:31
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| Isn't Vecna more powerful than Orcus? |
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 05 Mar 2011 : 05:02:06
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I guess so. Orcus was defeated by a mere demi-goddess. Kinda pathetic, really. |
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Ayrik
Great Reader
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Posted - 05 Mar 2011 : 15:19:58
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| Orcus is the undead demon god of rollercoasters. She must've caught him on a bad day. |
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 06 Mar 2011 : 01:01:38
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Orcus was defeated by a demi-goddess, Kiaransalee, who was vanquished by only a 15th level wizard, Q’arlynd Melarn. I don't know which of the two is more pathetic. |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 07 Mar 2011 : 13:56:16
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Synthalus
Living Wall full of atropals.
my god! what in the realms could get past such a thing as this?
Lathander and Kelemvor.
If you talk pre-Dawn Cataclysm or post-spellplague, you may add Amaunator to that list (although technically Lathander is Amaunator but meh - oh and Jergal cause he's more than just a bookeeper [:p[) |
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Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me:
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 07 Mar 2011 : 14:00:44
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Originally posted by Alisttair
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Originally posted by Chosen of Asmodeus
I've always pronounced it as rhyming with "rich", and that's how most people I've heard pronounce it. Apparently the word, originally being another word for corpse, was pronounced "like"...
Rhyming with "rich" is how I always pronounced it. I've heard it pronounced as "lick" a few times, haven't heard of it pronounced "like" till now.
I watched D&D Wrath of the Dragon God movie over the weekend, and they met a Lich, and the actors pronounced it rhyming with "rich", so I'm going with that |
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Aryalómë
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 08 Mar 2011 : 00:42:18
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| That was utter bs when Kiaransalee "died". She should have lived as well as Vhaeraun and Eillistraee. But the Vengeful Banshee is the nest deity of undead am vengece (ahe eventually ascended to lesser deity status). She is one of my favorite deities too, so you can see why I was quite poed to learn of her "death". May The Revenancer vanquish Lolth!!! |
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What is the highest order of undead?
