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Krail
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 Posted - 22 Jan 2011 : 20:48:51
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does anyone know the values of coinage for the realms? for example how many copper pieces into a silver piece etc, sorry if this seems a basic nowlage, buh im new
Mod edit: Found this one in the ethers. Relocated. 
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Edited by - Wooly Rupert on 22 Jan 2011 23:41:19
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 22 Jan 2011 : 23:58:16
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In standard D&D, 1 gold piece is worth 10 silver pieces, and 1 silver piece is worth 10 copper pieces. This is also the norm in the Realms.
Additionally, in the Realms, many nations have their own unique coinage, some of which may be worth more at home than when abroad.
Here's a nice list from the old Forgotten Realms Adventures hardcover, collected as an rtf by Wizards: Currency and Art Objects. It should nicely explain Realms currency to you. |
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The Sage
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Posted - 23 Jan 2011 : 01:23:21
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Wooly has the right of it. Some nations tend to devalue the coins from other nations, while others don't. Essentially, there's no hard and fast rule, and it varies from nation to nation or city to city.
Further, I've provided some further info on the subject, in this scroll.
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Gray Richardson
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 23 Jan 2011 : 05:53:37
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See also Power of Faerūn pp. 78-79 for more details about coins of various nations, their denominations, metal content, shapes and descriptions of the art on the coins. Very interesting lore!
Also contains interesting info about trade bars.
Wish I was an artist and could draw or paint some pictures of all these coins. A long time ago I found art on the web to substitute for various Cormyrean and Amnish coins, and I made sheets of monopoly money to use in my game. I still use these slips of paper to track money. Every player gets a zip-lock "bag of holding" and all money and treasure is tracked on little slips I print out. That way they always know how much money they have or who got awarded what item and if they still have it or not. The same "bills" i printed out a long time ago are still seeing use each week in my game. Although the higher denominations are tracked with gems instead of gold pieces. I had printed some gold tradebars, but the players prefer gems to gold due to encumbrance issues. Denominations below 100 gp tend to lose their utility pretty quickly after even a few levels. |
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Alystra Illianniis
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wintermute27
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Posted - 23 Jan 2011 : 14:14:03
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| Also, if you have a LOT of disposable income for gaming, these make a great addition to any collection of gaming props. |
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Krail
Acolyte
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Posted - 23 Jan 2011 : 20:49:19
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ok, thanks allot, allot of info there :)
the art n coinage one was really good thanks :)
i was using this theory atm,
copper piece:silver piece:gold piece:platinum piece
500:50:5:1
would that be fair? i found it on the net thismorning, im using some of the massive list of equipment in the library |
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Gray Richardson
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 23 Jan 2011 : 21:26:25
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Here's an odd idea. Remember Shrinky-dinks? I had this idea it might be cool to design coin art and print them out on Shrinky-dinks, cut them out and bake them so that you get plastic coins you could use in your campaign. I think they make some that you can run through your printer. You should even be able to print them double-sided. You'd have to print them large at an appropriate ratio to account for the shrinkage. But that could be a really cool game prop. And useful for keeping track of player money.
Of course, you could just use poker chips. If you go to a party-supply store, they make pirate coins. You can also buy packs of Mardi-Gras coins in the Mardi-Gras section that come in gold, green and purple, and maybe silver too.
Honestly, though, I don't find it useful to keep track of copper or silver pieces after 1st level. Even keeping track of single gold pieces can be a chore. My house rule is that after 1st level, I don't make them track anything under 10 gold (like the price of ale, food, & miscellaneous expenses) as it just feels nitpicky and slows down the game. Presumably they have that on them. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
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Posted - 24 Jan 2011 : 04:38:45
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I just figure the PCs all carry Dungeonmaster cards, and provide them with an ATM on every level of the locale.
The truly wealthy carry an Adamantium Card, which is accepted at all the better shops and festhalls. One Gnome-bank is even offering frequent-portal miles. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 24 Jan 2011 : 05:22:33
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Originally posted by Markustay
I just figure the PCs all carry Dungeonmaster cards, and provide them with an ATM on every level of the locale.
The truly wealthy carry an Adamantium Card, which is accepted at all the better shops and festhalls. One Gnome-bank is even offering frequent-portal miles.
Many places accept the Waterdhavian Express card, as well. |
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Alystra Illianniis
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The Sage
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 24 Jan 2011 : 08:00:23
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The fees on that are killer. :)
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My current PC has been thinking about applying for a MulmasterCard. 
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Ayrik
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Posted - 31 Jan 2011 : 07:37:51
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Wooly Rupert
Here's a nice list from the old Forgotten Realms Adventures hardcover, collected as an rtf by Wizards ...
Currency and Art Objects is only a small part of what's listed in the FRA (Chapter 6: Treasure). A few items on that list caught my eye, especially this:
87 A human-sized chain mail shirt made of a shining, meteoritic metal, triple-linked and oiled, and in top condition. The shirt is nonmagical, but provides AC 3 to the wearer (400 gp value).
Under 2E rules, "meteoritic metal" can mean pretty much anything (it's also briefly listed in the FRA as "Star Metal", worth ~10,000GP). But this is a chainmail breastplate (chain vest/shirt with sleeves) with a nonmagical +4 AC bonus? |
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Alystra Illianniis
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 07 Feb 2011 : 04:36:22
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| Keep in mind that with 2E, the way Armor Class was handled was different. 10 was no armor at all, and -10 was the absolute toughest armor imaginable (only deities went further into the negatives, and not many of them). A lot of magical items gave abolute armor values, rather than a bonus. You could be butt-naked, slap on a pair of bracers of defense AC3, and wade into combat without too much concern, because you were protected. Yeah, it's skewy, but that's the way the rules were written, and I'm not sure you could even argue the intent, there. |
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Ayrik
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Posted - 07 Feb 2011 : 04:58:20
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lol, put another way, this 2E chain mail shirt made of shining meteoric metal has the AC equivalent of a complete suit of plate mail. Significantly superior to even mithril and adamantium. A few points of AC goes a long way in 2E.
Just something that caught my eye. If I ever rolled 87, I'd probably "fix" the item a little. |
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Alisttair
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Posted - 07 Feb 2011 : 12:26:18
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Also after the spellplague, Platinum has become so rare that it a piece of it is worth 100gp (1PP = 100gp) - that's my reasoning for it in the realms anyways since that is the value of platinum in 4E (note that my reasoning is not canon but I think we can agree that it makes sense to explain it)...
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 07 Feb 2011 : 18:23:33
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Originally posted by Alisttair
Also after the spellplague, Platinum has become so rare that it a piece of it is worth 100gp (1PP = 100gp) - that's my reasoning for it in the realms anyways since that is the value of platinum in 4E (note that my reasoning is not canon but I think we can agree that it makes sense to explain it)...
"silently awaits 4E bashing due to the change in value of platinum"
Let's not have the bashing, and say we did. Hopefully that will be enough for the more vocal folks... |
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Alisttair
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Posted - 07 Feb 2011 : 18:30:07
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Alisttair
Also after the spellplague, Platinum has become so rare that it a piece of it is worth 100gp (1PP = 100gp) - that's my reasoning for it in the realms anyways since that is the value of platinum in 4E (note that my reasoning is not canon but I think we can agree that it makes sense to explain it)...
"silently awaits 4E bashing due to the change in value of platinum"
Let's not have the bashing, and say we did. Hopefully that will be enough for the more vocal folks...
 Splendid idea Wools! |
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 07 Feb 2011 : 19:47:44
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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
What happened- did the Spellplague "eat" most of the platinum? Maybe it was consumed by the blue fire....
One could say that an odd side effect was the transformation of platinum into baser metals... |
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Ayrik
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Posted - 07 Feb 2011 : 20:36:07
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The commodity value of precious metals fluctuates all the time. Platinum market value has always been volatile, it'll likely drop again in 5E.
I don't understand why residuum is so precious. Outside of it's monetary value, what use is it? Are there any magical applications? Can it be used as a universal spell component, potion flavouring, pixie dust, anything? |
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Markustay
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Posted - 07 Feb 2011 : 23:19:19
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Everyone knows that the majority of Platinum was stored in Mulhorand, with reserves shipped to vaults in Maztica.
On the other hand, diamonds are like grains of sand in Returned Abeir, so they have become less valuable then a head of cabbage. 
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Christopher_Rowe
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Posted - 07 Feb 2011 : 23:22:44
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Originally posted by Arik
I don't understand why residuum is so precious. Outside of it's monetary value, what use is it? Are there any magical applications? Can it be used as a universal spell component, potion flavouring, pixie dust, anything?
Yes, it can be used as a universal spell component in rituals.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 08 Feb 2011 : 00:50:06
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
What happened- did the Spellplague "eat" most of the platinum? Maybe it was consumed by the blue fire....
One could say that an odd side effect was the transformation of platinum into baser metals...
Seconded.
And, also, you could follow the DRAGONLANCE-route:- after the various Dragon Wars and Cataclysm saw the value of gold plummet, and the price of steel sky-rocket as it became such a rare and precious commodity. |
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 08 Feb 2011 : 01:30:32
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
What happened- did the Spellplague "eat" most of the platinum? Maybe it was consumed by the blue fire....
One could say that an odd side effect was the transformation of platinum into baser metals...
Seconded.
And, also, you could follow the DRAGONLANCE-route:- after the various Dragon Wars and Cataclysm saw the value of gold plummet, and the price of steel sky-rocket as it became such a rare and precious commodity.
I never really understood that one... If steel was suddenly and inexplicably so rare, why were weapons, armor, and utensils still made out of it? |
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Dalor Darden
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Posted - 08 Feb 2011 : 02:15:07
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
What happened- did the Spellplague "eat" most of the platinum? Maybe it was consumed by the blue fire....
One could say that an odd side effect was the transformation of platinum into baser metals...
Seconded.
And, also, you could follow the DRAGONLANCE-route:- after the various Dragon Wars and Cataclysm saw the value of gold plummet, and the price of steel sky-rocket as it became such a rare and precious commodity.
I never really understood that one... If steel was suddenly and inexplicably so rare, why were weapons, armor, and utensils still made out of it?
They were made out of Iron... |
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 08 Feb 2011 : 02:27:09
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Originally posted by Dalor Darden
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
What happened- did the Spellplague "eat" most of the platinum? Maybe it was consumed by the blue fire....
One could say that an odd side effect was the transformation of platinum into baser metals...
Seconded.
And, also, you could follow the DRAGONLANCE-route:- after the various Dragon Wars and Cataclysm saw the value of gold plummet, and the price of steel sky-rocket as it became such a rare and precious commodity.
I never really understood that one... If steel was suddenly and inexplicably so rare, why were weapons, armor, and utensils still made out of it?
They were made out of Iron...
Pretty sure everything was still made from steel... |
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The Sage
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Posted - 08 Feb 2011 : 02:27:51
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
What happened- did the Spellplague "eat" most of the platinum? Maybe it was consumed by the blue fire....
One could say that an odd side effect was the transformation of platinum into baser metals...
Seconded.
And, also, you could follow the DRAGONLANCE-route:- after the various Dragon Wars and Cataclysm saw the value of gold plummet, and the price of steel sky-rocket as it became such a rare and precious commodity.
I never really understood that one... If steel was suddenly and inexplicably so rare, why were weapons, armor, and utensils still made out of it?
Well, that's not exactly the case. The particular scarcity of steel, eventually saw other more common materials used for the crafting of weapons and utensils -- such as wood, glass, and bone [specifically, for the barbarian tribes], for example. The 3e resources elaborate on this more than what the 2e sources did... which sought to address the kind of disconnect you're picking up here. |
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The Sage
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Posted - 08 Feb 2011 : 02:28:53
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Dalor Darden
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
What happened- did the Spellplague "eat" most of the platinum? Maybe it was consumed by the blue fire....
One could say that an odd side effect was the transformation of platinum into baser metals...
Seconded.
And, also, you could follow the DRAGONLANCE-route:- after the various Dragon Wars and Cataclysm saw the value of gold plummet, and the price of steel sky-rocket as it became such a rare and precious commodity.
I never really understood that one... If steel was suddenly and inexplicably so rare, why were weapons, armor, and utensils still made out of it?
They were made out of Iron...
Pretty sure everything was still made from steel...
Initially, for the most part. But as I just said, weapon-makers had to eventually find new and other materials to craft with. |
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