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Arion Elenim
Senior Scribe
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 Posted - 22 Oct 2003 : 19:35:58
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By the way...what EXACTLY caused Blackstaff to split from the Harpers? Is it documented in any canon besides the Faerun Tome? What do the Moonstars stand for apart from what the Harpers stand for?
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My latest Realms-based short story, about a bard, a paladin of Lathander and the letter of the law, Debts Repaid. It takes place before the "shattering" and gives the bard Arion a last gasp before he plunges into the present.http://candlekeep.com/campaign/logs/log-debts.htm |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 23 Oct 2003 : 07:01:27
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| The Cloak and Dagger supplement has the full details on what you wish to know. |
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 Oct 2003 : 17:18:53
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| Well the closest I ever got to finding out about the Harper problems is in the Thornhold novel.....although dont expect much, it is very played down and not that clear at all. |
Lord Rad
"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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Arion Elenim
Senior Scribe
933 Posts |
Posted - 23 Oct 2003 : 18:13:51
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| Cloak and Dagger supplement? What is that? |
My latest Realms-based short story, about a bard, a paladin of Lathander and the letter of the law, Debts Repaid. It takes place before the "shattering" and gives the bard Arion a last gasp before he plunges into the present.http://candlekeep.com/campaign/logs/log-debts.htm |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 24 Oct 2003 : 05:30:14
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Originally posted by ArionElenim
Cloak and Dagger supplement? What is that?
It's a supplement from 2nd Edition that, like soon to be every other book from 2nd edition, got cut and pasted a great deal into a 3rd edition product, in this case Lords of Darkness, and then was called new material.
Follow the link below to find out more information about the item. It's very well done and a great read
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0786916273/104-3252844-5500752?v=glance |
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William of Waterdeep
Senior Scribe
USA
829 Posts |
Posted - 24 Oct 2003 : 05:45:36
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Sirius,Do you think the e-book would be just as good? Its cheaper,no postage either. http://www.svgames.com/tsr11627esd.html |
Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 24 Oct 2003 : 14:51:23
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Originally posted by William of Waterdeep
Sirius,Do you think the e-book would be just as good? Its cheaper,no postage either. http://www.svgames.com/tsr11627esd.html
Actually, I wasn't pushing him towards an Amazon purchase as much as using them as a cheap source of information. As for SV Games, your experiences with them must be a tad different than many others that I have heard. Needless to say, I'm glad I purchased the book when it first came out in its print edition. |
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William of Waterdeep
Senior Scribe
USA
829 Posts |
Posted - 25 Oct 2003 : 18:49:10
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Yes, you work for Amazon don't you.Admit it and live!
I didn't mean to imply that you were pushing anything so you misunderstood me.I wanted your opinion of the downloads at sv games and yes,I have had good experiences with them.A download manger is almost a must have for these and the faster the connection the better.
I will leave a link to one download manager but there are many---> http://www.gozilla.com/ |
Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 26 Oct 2003 : 07:15:29
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I think electronic downloads are good, if the sourcebook is not more than 100 pages.
I have purchased most of Monte Cook's tomes in electronic format, and are all loaded onto my laptop. It makes it easier to carry around the smaller tomes in electronic format on my laptop leaving me with more 'arm-space' to carry a few larger ones, than a number of small tomes, and the larger ones as well.
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 26 Oct 2003 : 07:52:55
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| Almost every D&D/FR gaming book I own is in electronic format, thanks to Artalis. Saved me a lot of money, allowed me to take them everywhere I had my laptop, and let me search most of them (those that weren't direct scans). Very helpful to a guy struggling to find out what everyone on a certain forum site was talking about. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 26 Oct 2003 : 08:25:26
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He sent me two CDs of D&D and FR information, including an 80MB file called frcs.pdf.  |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 26 Oct 2003 : 09:17:57
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Well, the 2e info would be legal, since there's a newer edition out now. But, yeah -- I didn't ask.
Of course, he didn't charge a thing. Actually took a bit of a loss, since he had to pay for two CDs and postage. That means he didn't do actual piracy . . . .
Though I don't think he's too eager for obeying copyright in everything. He had a bootleg of The Two Towers when he was doing this -- in March. He wasn't going to skip buying the DVD, but . . . . |
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William of Waterdeep
Senior Scribe
USA
829 Posts |
Posted - 26 Oct 2003 : 10:38:47
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I think the PDF books or e-books are great because as the burn to cd or dvd takes up less space than the books and they are so much cheaper
especially some of them, right Bookwyrm?!! |
Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Arion Elenim
Senior Scribe
933 Posts |
Posted - 26 Oct 2003 : 14:36:50
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I agree with good Sage of Perth...the tenets of Mask have no place in these walls.... |
My latest Realms-based short story, about a bard, a paladin of Lathander and the letter of the law, Debts Repaid. It takes place before the "shattering" and gives the bard Arion a last gasp before he plunges into the present.http://candlekeep.com/campaign/logs/log-debts.htm |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 26 Oct 2003 : 15:23:31
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Originally posted by Sage of Perth
I think we should all be careful with how far this conversation goes...
Best thing to do in situations where "acquiring" PDFs comes into the topic, is to take it private via email or other device. It helps the site from having to worry about anything, the moderators from dealing with it, and avoids any board debates that I've seen turn into flame wars very quickly on other boards.
Just my two coppers. No offense meant to anyone. |
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Alaundo
Head Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 Oct 2003 : 19:23:55
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Originally posted by Sage of Perth
I think we should all be careful with how far this conversation goes...
Ahem......Well met 
Indeed, such talk will not be heard of within these walls, I wont heard of it I tell thee. Theres nothing quite like a good ol' tome to thumb the pages of |
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William of Waterdeep
Senior Scribe
USA
829 Posts |
Posted - 29 Oct 2003 : 21:27:37
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Sorry Alaundo,I have been buying my downloads at svgames and you can always print them out is you want a hard copy in your hands.
I plan to download all of the FR as well as other worlds, as I can pay for them. |
Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.
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Cyric
Senior Scribe
Norway
388 Posts |
Posted - 22 Nov 2003 : 11:22:48
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| yes but what is the deal abut these The Moonstars with them there are not any reason that the harpers shuld live yes this is good i se the end of the harpers |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 23 Nov 2003 : 09:55:27
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| Bah, you'd find "good" in taking toys away from children. |
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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
Master of Realmslore
1338 Posts |
Posted - 23 Nov 2003 : 10:28:38
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Now hand over those D&D books Bookwyrm, and don't forget the dice too.
Back to the original question:
The Moonstars are less of a political animal then the Harpers. No to say that they don't meddle in affairs where they sometimes shouldn't.
The Harpers are more concerned about countering evil organizations and preventing them from expanding and getting footholds in regions which previously were free of the taint.They are also more of a guerilla force, fighting and sabotaging these evil and/or powerhungry organizations at every turn.
The Moonstars or - Tel'Teukiira - are striving to forge an aliance between the goodly races, most notably between the elves and humans. Their belief is that if they can build a strong aliance, they can withstand the likes of the Zhentarim, Knights of the Shield etc.
Basically Blackstaff disagreed with the course the Harpers are taking and has found a group of likeminded people, which form the Moonstars. An organization, which embodies the principles of Silverymoon (and the Silver Marches) |
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Arion Elenim
Senior Scribe
933 Posts |
Posted - 24 Nov 2003 : 00:32:44
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Thanks Mumadar - it's been too long since last we spoke....A few other things to pick your brain -
How much enmity is building up between the two factions? Disdain? |
My latest Realms-based short story, about a bard, a paladin of Lathander and the letter of the law, Debts Repaid. It takes place before the "shattering" and gives the bard Arion a last gasp before he plunges into the present.http://candlekeep.com/campaign/logs/log-debts.htm |
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Mellomir
Acolyte
Austria
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Posted - 24 Nov 2003 : 12:15:37
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Originally posted by Bookwyrm
...and let me search most of them (those that weren't direct scans).
Amen to that. I have every FR sourcebook, etc. in original format already, but I bought all of the downloads to make finding troublesome references so much easier. Gotta love 'search'. |
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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
Master of Realmslore
1338 Posts |
Posted - 29 Nov 2003 : 23:52:22
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Originally posted by ArionElenim
Thanks Mumadar - it's been too long since last we spoke....A few other things to pick your brain -
How much enmity is building up between the two factions? Disdain?
Not quite sure as I do this from memory now, but they are different dependent on the perspective: - Moonstars look upon the Harpers as rebelious cousins who are sometimes a little misguided
- Harpers see the Moonstars more as self-important figures and need some watching.
Overall there is a certain wariness between the two. |
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