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Trafaldi
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William of Waterdeep
Senior Scribe
USA
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 Posted - 21 Oct 2003 : 00:34:48
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| Thats not bad deal at all.I may have to do that later.Thanks for the link. |
Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.
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Trafaldi
Learned Scribe
264 Posts |
Posted - 21 Oct 2003 : 07:19:43
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| No problem I need to get this as well there is also a description on WotC of it. Abd yes it is and excelent deal. |
Some believe there is something more after death, if you really want to find out... go kill yourself and stop pestering me. |
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kahonen
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 Oct 2003 : 22:48:21
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Originally posted by Trafaldi
No problem I need to get this as well there is also a description on WotC of it. Abd yes it is and excelent deal.
Hardly an excellent deal if you've already spent a small fortune on the 3E books expecting them to be correct  |
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Trafaldi
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 28 Oct 2003 : 15:12:05
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| you sound like you have a grudge against 3.5 right now. It is truly better and improved. there just making it more realistic. which makes it more fun |
Some believe there is something more after death, if you really want to find out... go kill yourself and stop pestering me. |
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kahonen
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
358 Posts |
Posted - 29 Oct 2003 : 17:25:07
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you sound like you have a grudge against 3.5 right now. It is truly better and improved. there just making it more realistic. which makes it more fun
I don't care about 3.5 either way. I'm still using 2nd edition and will continue to do so. I did buy the 3E core rule books and have lifted some of the better rules out of them and into the campaign I run.
I simply can't believe the number of people that couldn't wait to throw money at Hasbro for 3.5 when it appears that all they were doing was correcting mistakes and omissions with 3E which many people had only bought a few months before.
Whatever happened to bothering to get a product right first time? |
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
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Posted - 29 Oct 2003 : 17:47:40
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Originally posted by kahonen
I don't care about 3.5 either way. I'm still using 2nd edition and will continue to do so. I did buy the 3E core rule books and have lifted some of the better rules out of them and into the campaign I run.
I simply can't believe the number of people that couldn't wait to throw money at Hasbro for 3.5 when it appears that all they were doing was correcting mistakes and omissions with 3E which many people had only bought a few months before.
Whatever happened to bothering to get a product right first time?
Totally agree with you there kahonen! D&D3.5 is merely an errata to D&D3 with a couple of tweaks to fool fans into believing theres more to it that that! To say the amount ot playtesting that took place and the numerous updates on the WotC site and Dragon magazine, youd have thought that the rules would be perfect... I also heard of a further errata to the 3.5 rulebooks........doesnt give much confidence! |
Lord Rad
"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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William of Waterdeep
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 29 Oct 2003 : 21:07:18
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Thats not fair!!!! I'm glad I didn't have the money to buy it yet.
I don't care about owning it if it is a rip off. |
Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 29 Oct 2003 : 21:53:30
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| I honestly don't believe 3.5 is a rip-off. 3e represented the greatest change to D&D in quite a while, and changes of that magnitude were going to need revising at some point. I bought the 3.5 rulebooks, and they've been invaluable. |
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William of Waterdeep
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 29 Oct 2003 : 22:47:56
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Originally posted by Arivia
I honestly don't believe 3.5 is a rip-off. 3e represented the greatest change to D&D in quite a while, and changes of that magnitude were going to need revising at some point. I bought the 3.5 rulebooks, and they've been invaluable.
Okay I know you know your books,what specific changes have been made that make 3.5e worth the money? Can you give a couple of examples. |
Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
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Posted - 29 Oct 2003 : 23:21:24
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Originally posted by Arivia
I honestly don't believe 3.5 is a rip-off. 3e represented the greatest change to D&D in quite a while, and changes of that magnitude were going to need revising at some point. I bought the 3.5 rulebooks, and they've been invaluable.
Dont get me wrong, I think some of the changes in 3rd ed are great!! its just the errors that im unhappy about and the release of 3.5 soon after! Such a big thing was made of D&D 3rd Ed.....and its been a long time since 2nd ed. AD&D.....but then to release 3.5 so soon....id hardly opened the cover of my 3rd ed manuals when theres rumor of 3.5...... just seems like a big money spinner and I cant help but feel a bit like WotC are having a laugh with this one. |
Lord Rad
"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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William of Waterdeep
Senior Scribe
USA
829 Posts |
Posted - 29 Oct 2003 : 23:37:36
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All I have is 2e with the exception of two 3e books (not yet received)
so I just want the facts before I spend any money on 3.5e.With the economy falling apart in my area,money isn't something to spend on foolish purchases. |
Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 30 Oct 2003 : 00:05:01
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Hmm..some improvements, eh?
-The DMG was missing some crucial information, such as underwater combat rules, a section on the planes, and some semblance of random wilderness encounter tables.
-Chapters 4 and 5 of the MM are invaluable to anyone who either augments or creates their own monsters. These chapters provide needed information that was not presented before, and unify some information that was presented in varied sources before. Monster creation was a pain, especially when you had to piece together information from Savage Species, MM II, and various Dragon articles.
-Rebalancing and redevelopment has closed quite a few loopholes for powergamers, and has made the game less of a headache.
-Revised formatting in all three rulebooks makes it easier to find important information.
-If you're just starting, the 3.5 rulebooks are a godsend, as they reprint rules and the like from a variety of supplements that were greatly helpful, such as the Epic Level Handbook, Manual of the Planes, the detailed trap creation system from Song and Silence, and other bits. |
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William of Waterdeep
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 30 Oct 2003 : 00:13:17
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Thanks Arivia,once again you have exceeded my expectations with the knowledge you have presented.From what you have given it seems It may have some errors but basically is still well worth buying for anyone interested in D&D. |
Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
2080 Posts |
Posted - 31 Dec 2003 : 16:27:23
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Rumor has it that the D&D 3.5 gift set will NOT be released in the UK (thanks Hasbro, you sure know how to sell your products!)
For those who ARE interested in 3.5, im sure there is more than me who purposely did NOT buy the individual core rulebooks as they were waiting for this particular gift set.
Another disgrunted customer! Got....to....resist....the.....urge....to.....slate.....Hasbro! GRRR |
Lord Rad
"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 02 Jan 2004 : 01:58:44
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Do not feel bad Rad...that doesn't sound right... .
The 3.5e Gift Set was only released here in Australia a few weeks ago, much closer to Christmas than I would have liked. And only after the general gaming public had been told that it would not be released here (also after I had purchased the revised core rulebooks separately upon learning of this...)
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 Jan 2004 : 07:48:25
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Hmmmm thats slightly good to know I guess Sage.
Although it WAS available to order on Amazon....but was later cancelled and the listing stated the the item was no longer available.... hence my recent rant
Suppose ill have to wait and see |
Lord Rad
"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 Feb 2004 : 12:43:20
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Well I reordered the gift set and it arrived yesterday!  A very nice set indeed (presentation-wise), I have yet to go thru the manuals themselves as there were many other exciting products in my Amazon delivery to check though
Anyway, my point being that UK residents CAN get the gift set through Amazon, being as it wont be in the stores. |
Lord Rad
"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 01 Feb 2004 : 12:47:47
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Originally posted by Rad
Well I reordered the gift set and it arrived yesterday! A very nice set indeed (presentation-wise), I have yet to go thru the manuals themselves as there were many other exciting products in my Amazon delivery to check though
Anyway, my point being that UK residents CAN get the gift set through Amazon, being as it wont be in the stores.
I'm glad to hear that Rad. However, you appear to be keeping secrets... I'm talking about 'there were many other exciting products in my Amazon delivery to check though'...Well, don't stay closed mouthed, what were these other products...?
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 01 Feb 2004 : 14:34:42
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Boy, I remember the threads on ENWorld when 3.5 was announced and then came out....the ranting, screaming, shouting, crying....and that just from some of the game designers. 
I wonder how long til 4.0 edition? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 01 Feb 2004 : 15:01:27
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'4e D&D'...Hmmm...I would say anywhere between 2005-2007, at least in terms of game designers sitting down and revising the 'revised' rules. By that time I think 3.5e would have run it's course...
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 Feb 2004 : 17:33:50
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I'm glad to hear that Rad. However, you appear to be keeping secrets... I'm talking about 'there were many other exciting products in my Amazon delivery to check though'...Well, don't stay closed mouthed, what were these other products...?
hehehe My apologies Sage....ahem, not all were FR\D&D related so i didnt mention them, but as you asked, i got:
Todd Lockwood art book
NWN: Hordes of the Underdark Strategy Guide
Baldurs Gate: DA Strategy guide
Wordcraft (Old English dictionary & thesaurus)
D&D gift set of course
Crouching Tiger... book 1
30 Days of Night graphic novel
So a lot of cool stuff to look thru this weekend Sorry to bore everyone with my geeky excitment |
Lord Rad
"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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