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The Red Walker
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 Posted - 30 Dec 2010 : 19:17:01
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Originally posted by sleyvas
What happened with the 7 sisters? Were they all killed and did they reveal how for each?
- Alustriel (spelling?) grew old and passed away, leaving her kingdom of Lurar and the city of Silverymoon to her half-elven son (who' now growing old too).
- Dove's where-abouts are unknown, her future is unknown.
- Simbul's fate is mentioned in the Elminster Must Die novel
- Lariel's fate is unknown to me, though I think it's stated in the Blackstaff novel
- Alvaerele Tasundrym's fate is unknown, though she appears in Blackstaff
- Qilue is deceased
- Sylune is deceased
- Storm Silverhand's fate is unknown
Is it just me or isn't that 8 sisters? Where did the 8th come from? I've never heard of one being Alvaerele Taundrym. |
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Diffan
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Posted - 30 Dec 2010 : 20:55:59
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
Is it just me or isn't that 8 sisters? Where did the 8th come from? I've never heard of one being Alvaerele Taundrym.
I actually looked it up in Wiki-Forgotten Realms and the name Alvaerele Tasundrym's popped in there. I wasn't sure if she was one a sister to the others so I just threw her in. |
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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 30 Dec 2010 : 21:35:31
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Alvaerele isn't a sister as far as I've read. Qilué was the "hidden" sister for many of the early years. I've never even heard of that name before...
Edit: Correction, she's a former Magister that became Chosen after she tired of being Magister. |
I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.
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Ayrik
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Posted - 30 Dec 2010 : 21:49:27
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wikipedia confirms the FR list of Seven Sisters (and briefly discusses some of their 4E fates).
I think Alvaerele was the "Silent Chosen" and (possibly) a former Magister, though I can't recall where I read about her ... I think she and Khelben did some important ritual or something. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 30 Dec 2010 : 23:56:19
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Originally posted by Arik
wikipedia confirms the FR list of Seven Sisters (and briefly discusses some of their 4E fates).
I think Alvaerele was the "Silent Chosen" and (possibly) a former Magister, though I can't recall where I read about her ... I think she and Khelben did some important ritual or something.
Alvaerele Tasundrym held the position of Magister from 576 DR to 592 DR. She is referred to as "the Silent Chosen." Most do not even know that this particular Magister exists, but her position has become so very important as she acts as a guardian for those things that Mystra I wished to remain unknown [this includes knowledge like where the Srinshee is sleeping, as well as making certain that human, half-elven, and elven family trees are kept recorded and up-to-date]. See Secrets of the Magister.
And here's a little from Ed:-
"May 6, 2005: Hello again, all. Ed replies to Weiser_Cain’s query about the Chosen who “makes sure to keep human, half-elven, and elven family trees up to date so they don’t become lost. . . . Why would they become 'lost' and what does it mean to be lost?”
Hi. Here I simply meant a Magister who tries to record genealogies (not just of armigerous families, whom the Heralds are concerned with, but anyone, of high or low birth or station, who has within their family ranks someone with an aptitude for the Art [ = a wizard or sorcerer], which turns out to be most people). She works and works to record who married who and what offspring they had. This isn’t necessarily knowledge that the individuals she’s recording know, or will learn, and it may never make the slightest difference to their lives - - but it does mean that Mystra’s servants can follow genetic lines, if they want to, of persons with, say, spellfire, or an aptitude for water magic, or particular magic-related prestige classes, and so on.
(Note I said “if they want to;” thus far, few of the Chosen have bothered consulting this ever-accumulating genealogical work, for whatever reasons.)
Lineages become ‘lost’ for all sorts of reasons, of course, including warfare, disease, winterkill, slavery, monster attacks, fires that destroy local temple and family records, illiteracy and bad memory or lack of teaching (older family members to younger kin), and so on. Most ‘common folk’ in the Realms can accurately and fully trace their family tree back three generations at most, and ‘back beyond that’ is little more than a string of colourful tales and claims to be related to this or that king or local hero or villain.
So saith Ed.
Drifting close to real-world reality here, I’d say.
If that isn’t too trite or redundant a construction. Ah, I’m too weary to mind much just now. More Realmslore on the morrow!
love to all,
THO" |
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Ayrik
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Posted - 31 Dec 2010 : 00:23:06
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| I'd guess that Mystra 3.0's genealogy workload was increased quite a lot when 4E allowed dwarves, halflings, genasi, dragonborn, etc to become magic users. Or is this grand genealogical project more Oghma's and Denier's realm? And would it include priests, psions, and shadowmages? |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 31 Dec 2010 : 04:29:08
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Originally posted by Arik
I'd guess that Mystra 3.0's genealogy workload was increased quite a lot when 4E allowed dwarves, halflings, genasi, dragonborn, etc to become magic users. Or is this grand genealogical project more Oghma's and Denier's realm? And would it include priests, psions, and shadowmages?
Actually, it was 3.0 that removed all prior racial restrictions. If you go with the "explanation" we were given, that it had always been like that but no one knew ( ), then you could assume dwarves and such were already on the list. |
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Ayrik
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Posted - 31 Dec 2010 : 05:06:11
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| Really? 3.0 core? I gotta look that up ... maybe my groggy group subconsciously blocked dwarven mages and only realized the change a full edition later. |
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 31 Dec 2010 : 14:43:48
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Originally posted by Arik
Really? 3.0 core? I gotta look that up ... maybe my groggy group subconsciously blocked dwarven mages and only realized the change a full edition later.
Yup, 3.0 removed all the class limits and restrictions of prior editions. Any character could be any class or combination of classes.
3.x also gave us dragonborn, but those dragonborn were not at all related to 4E's dragonborn. 3.x dragonborn started off as regular people, and only became dragonborn after they'd dedicated themselves to serving Bahamut and undergone a ritual of rebirth. Human/dwarf/elf/whatever went into an egg, a dragonborn came out.
The fact that the 3.x dragonborn and the 4E dragonborn have nothing beyond the racial name and a superficial physical resemblance in common bugs me. I think that reusing the name was a confusing and thus bad idea. |
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Rhewtani
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Posted - 31 Dec 2010 : 15:21:57
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| So, what's the deal with Alusair? Someone willing to spoil that one? |
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Diffan
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Posted - 31 Dec 2010 : 16:15:27
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Yup, 3.0 removed all the class limits and restrictions of prior editions. Any character could be any class or combination of classes.
This is probably one of the best features of 3e/v3.5 to date IMO and a trait carried further into Pathfinder and 4E. I was never a fan of the restrictions, as they seem to adhere to a more "Tolkien-esque" vision of Fantasy then being a separate entity. To me, it didn't add flavor but forced a fundamental mind-set that a dwarf has to be a fighter or cleric and can never be an arcane caster, or that they despise arcane magics (yet have loads of magiacal equipment).
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3.x also gave us dragonborn, but those dragonborn were not at all related to 4E's dragonborn. 3.x dragonborn started off as regular people, and only became dragonborn after they'd dedicated themselves to serving Bahamut and undergone a ritual of rebirth. Human/dwarf/elf/whatever went into an egg, a dragonborn came out.
The fact that the 3.x dragonborn and the 4E dragonborn have nothing beyond the racial name and a superficial physical resemblance in common bugs me. I think that reusing the name was a confusing and thus bad idea.
I don't see why someone who's playing a Dragonborn in 4E Realms can't use the above description for their backstory instead of being from Returned Abier. If anything, I believe you can pretty much say your ancestors or parents were Dragon-Kin or maybe once elves who've gone through the Ritual of Rebirth.
The main problem is that other options weren't discussed offically in 4E and thus aren't known by most 4E Realms newcomers. If someone plays a FR Dragonborn, more than likely he'll create a backstory that describes his family or even himself hailing from the Returned countries and not parents derived from the Ritual of Rebirth or possibly Dragon-Kin ancestors. |
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 31 Dec 2010 : 16:15:58
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So, what's the deal with Alusair? Someone willing to spoil that one?
She basically rode off into the sunset. We didn't get much info on her, other than that... |
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Diffan
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Posted - 31 Dec 2010 : 16:19:34
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So, what's the deal with Alusair? Someone willing to spoil that one?
This free DDi article should shed some light for you--> Backdrop: Cormyr by Brian James
Though it doesn't go extensively with Alusair, it does give some history for the past century. |
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The Red Walker
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Posted - 31 Dec 2010 : 16:26:02
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Originally posted by Rhewtani
So, what's the deal with Alusair? Someone willing to spoil that one?
Besides "haunting" the palace in the present realms as a ghost of some type? Not much. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 31 Dec 2010 : 16:38:56
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Rhewtani
So, what's the deal with Alusair? Someone willing to spoil that one?
She basically rode off into the sunset. We didn't get much info on her, other than that...
Not even through the DDI, unfortunately.  |
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