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Diffan
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 Posted - 17 Dec 2010 : 03:53:58
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
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Originally posted by Gavinfoxx
So, you all think Bards tend to not use the Weave the normal way? What about the other skillful mostly arcane classes?
What about Beguilers? Factotum casting spell likes? Chameleons?
I was under the impression that most spellcasters--arcane and divine--use the Weave. The Weave isn't arcane specific, but rather the nigh-universal (or at least most common) medium by which mortals can access the source of magic.
I think bards, beguilers, duskblades, factotum folks, chameleons, etc., etc., all use the Weave, just like clerics, sorcerers, and wizards. And they do indeed all use it in a slightly different way, but that way isn't "abnormal"--just slightly different.
Cheers
I actually believe the opposite. Divine spellcasters gain their ability to cast spells directly from their connection to their patron deity. This is further illustrated in the 3 part adventure path Cormyr/Shadowdale/Anauroch(sp?) in which servants of Shar attempted to subvert the Weave, there by making it really hard for those who cast spells from the weave. Divine classes were not affected.
THis helps to illustrate the fact that arcane casters (generally Wizards and Sorcerers) have a very difficult time casting "cure" spells unless very focused in that area of expertise (ie, taking feats that allow them to do so).
Bards, OTOH, take a little from each pool or dabble (if you will) in all sorts of varying magics. In keeping with the spirit of one of the most versatile classes in the game (3e and 4e), it goes to show that they'd be able to cast a few heal spells here or there.
I do though require Bards to express some sort of religious belief be it to Oghma, Mystra, Mask, Shar, etc..... This, I feel, helps further explain their divine spells.
OR they could be very well versed in ways of song or incouragement that while the spells are magical in nature, they're displayed and used in a very Martial form. |
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
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Posted - 17 Dec 2010 : 05:52:17
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"(Incidentally, neither the assassin class from Blackmoor nor from the 1e PHB required any experience levels in any other class before becoming an assassin.)"
Wow. Wait til I tell the other half that his TSR-cert. DM was doing it wrong....   And let me be clear that I never once referred to "D&D" history, but to ancient history, in regarding the bardic origins. I simply related that history to the rule as stated in the OD&D PHB and the CBH. Moving on....
"I do though require Bards to express some sort of religious belief be it to Oghma, Mystra, Mask, Shar, etc..... This, I feel, helps further explain their divine spells.
OR they could be very well versed in ways of song or encouragement that while the spells are magical in nature, they're displayed and used in a very Martial form."
I like that idea. It's more-or-less what I've thought all along. Touch of the divine, force of will, or intuitive knowledge of the cosmic symphony, it's all the same in the end.
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What is the lore reason Arcane Magic can't heal?
