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Arion Elenim
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Posted - 16 Oct 2003 :  06:09:27  Show Profile  Visit Arion Elenim's Homepage Send Arion Elenim a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Has anyone ever played a dwarf using the whole "I've been stripped of my clan name and must regain it" angle? The idea just sprung to me of a dwarf wandering around trying to earn a new name after prior misdeeds caused his clan to take it away.

My latest Realms-based short story, about a bard, a paladin of Lathander and the letter of the law, Debts Repaid. It takes place before the "shattering" and gives the bard Arion a last gasp before he plunges into the present.http://candlekeep.com/campaign/logs/log-debts.htm

The Sage
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Posted - 16 Oct 2003 :  10:10:13  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes, it was the basis for my Dwarf Slayer PrC. Although, the dwarf would basically be stripped of his titles, clan affliations and other cultural 'attachments' due to poor performance in battle which directly lead significant defeats for dwarven forces as a whole. There is no accepted method for atonement for a dwarf who has failed his group and race as a whole. The 'cast-out' dwarf will spend the rest of his life as an outcast of dwarven society, suffering treatment and relations similiar to that of the duergar subrace.

At one time I did seek to amen this PrC, making the following changes - defeat at the hands of a particular monstrous creature that has had other dire consequences for his kin would result in the dwarf's loss of face and honour among his kin.

In this case, the dwarf could only atone for his 'mis-deeds' by hunting down the offending creature and exacting his revenge, normally at great personal risk, and usually unarmed. The dwarf's resulting death (as most normally do die) would usually be enough to regain some of his lost honour in the eyes of his kin.


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Arion Elenim
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Posted - 16 Oct 2003 :  17:33:07  Show Profile  Visit Arion Elenim's Homepage Send Arion Elenim a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I was thinking that perhaps the dwarf could forge himself a new name....perhaps a find a new clan that will accept him or perhaps sponsor him for reinstatement in his old clan after he has acheived some lost dwarven artifact or performed some feat of dwarven daring do (freeing an entire clan of dwarves enslaved by verbeeg or something).

My latest Realms-based short story, about a bard, a paladin of Lathander and the letter of the law, Debts Repaid. It takes place before the "shattering" and gives the bard Arion a last gasp before he plunges into the present.http://candlekeep.com/campaign/logs/log-debts.htm
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Fibura Gauntlet
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Posted - 17 Oct 2003 :  09:59:36  Show Profile  Visit Fibura Gauntlet's Homepage Send Fibura Gauntlet a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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In this case, the dwarf could only atone for his 'mis-deeds' by hunting down the offending creature and exacting his revenge, normally at great personal risk, and usually unarmed. The dwarf's resulting death (as most normally do die) would usually be enough to regain some of his lost honour in the eyes of his kin.
That sounds a lot like Warhammer's Troll and Giant Slayers. Apart from the punk hair and tattoos obviously Have your planar travels taken you further than I thought Sage?

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The Sage
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Posted - 17 Oct 2003 :  10:43:49  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Guilty as charged...

Anyway, yes, my Dwarven Slayer PrC is in fact based partly on material from earlier Warhammer editions of the 'Dwarfs' army tome.

The City of Doors has portals to everywhere, remember?...


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Trafaldi
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Posted - 17 Oct 2003 :  19:29:47  Show Profile  Visit Trafaldi's Homepage Send Trafaldi a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Why not have him create his own clan. Have him bring that name from the ground on up.

Some believe there is something more after death, if you really want to find out... go kill yourself and stop pestering me.
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The Sage
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Posted - 18 Oct 2003 :  08:27:25  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That's certainly an interesting idea, but the Clan would forever be marked by the dishonour of that one founding member.


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The Sage
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Posted - 18 Oct 2003 :  08:37:36  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
hmm...actually it could work. Are you familiar with the Minotaur clans of DL?.


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Trafaldi
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Posted - 21 Oct 2003 :  23:21:17  Show Profile  Visit Trafaldi's Homepage Send Trafaldi a Private Message  Reply with Quote
contradicting yourself interesting But they would be dishonoured at first they would have to earn respect.

Some believe there is something more after death, if you really want to find out... go kill yourself and stop pestering me.
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The Sage
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Posted - 23 Oct 2003 :  07:37:50  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Happens all the time...




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