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Azuth
Senior Scribe
USA
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 Posted - 01 Apr 2011 : 17:47:44
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I think Bob Salvatore's ending for Cadderly in The Ghost King, because it was not only his death, but his neverending toiling that would deny him entry in to Deneir's realm for a devoted life. It was well written, it just made me very, very sad.
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Azuth, the First Magister
Lord of All Spells
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 01 Apr 2011 : 22:41:12
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Pug's reminiscences [of all those he lost in his very long existence] in various novels in the Riftwar Cycle, particularly the last 4 books, oft times moved me. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 01 Apr 2011 : 22:57:21
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Originally posted by Dennis
Pug's reminiscences [of all those he lost in his very long existence] in various novels in the Riftwar Cycle, particularly the last 4 books, oft times moved me.
Some of his loses have had the same effect on me... Particular the rather recent on on Sorcerer's Isle, or when he couldn't accompany Katala back to Thuril. |
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 01 Apr 2011 : 23:20:22
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Dennis
Pug's reminiscences [of all those he lost in his very long existence] in various novels in the Riftwar Cycle, particularly the last 4 books, oft times moved me.
Some of his loses have had the same effect on me... Particular the rather recent on on Sorcerer's Isle, or when he couldn't accompany Katala back to Thuril.
Yes, that too.
Spoilers:
Though I'm glad that he'd regain some of those losses. At the end of A Kingdom Besieged, it was revealed that the demon named Child carried Miranda's memories and her teacher/caretaker carried Nakor's. They transformed from demon forms into their human forms and traveled back to Midkemia to flee the growing Darkness in the Demon Realm. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 02 Apr 2011 : 01:42:41
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Dennis
Pug's reminiscences [of all those he lost in his very long existence] in various novels in the Riftwar Cycle, particularly the last 4 books, oft times moved me.
Some of his loses have had the same effect on me... Particular the rather recent on on Sorcerer's Isle, or when he couldn't accompany Katala back to Thuril.
I really need to get back to reading these books...
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althen artren
Senior Scribe
USA
780 Posts |
Posted - 02 Apr 2011 : 02:25:09
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go ahead and put them on the list,
you'll buy them in about 7 years and
read them in about 19 years. |
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althen artren
Senior Scribe
USA
780 Posts |
Posted - 02 Apr 2011 : 02:26:31
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At this point, the only characters in the realms that might
get me for a death scene would be Shanaytar (misspell),
El, and the Srinshee. After that: (shrug).
Edit: I forgot Fflar. He's a really likable character
as he was written by Baker. |
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ChieftainTwilight
Learned Scribe
171 Posts |
Posted - 02 Apr 2011 : 03:03:54
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part of me wants to say Spellfire from the Shandral Shessair series... but I never could finish that book. the danged apprentice mage's training was so damn tedious and pointless that I gave up.
I'm pretty sure that I cried in all of the Drizzt books, but I think the first one that realy hit me to my core, a cry that I never forgot, was when Zaknafien died in Sojourn. I spent my entire life trying to get to know my stepdad, and Drizzt Do-Urden was my first male role-model. kinda sad, I know, but... eh. >///< |
and a heart can only break so many times
and I've been to hell and back so many times
and I've seen folks walk away so many times
but just like anyone else I gotta stand up by myself
and a heart can only break so many times
a heart can only break so many times
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 02 Apr 2011 : 03:33:39
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Originally posted by althen artren
go ahead and put them on the list,
you'll buy them in about 7 years and
read them in about 19 years.
7 years? Not anymore. There are only 2 more books left to finally end the Riftwar Cycle, which means just 2 years of waiting. I was hoping the sequel to A Kingdom Besieged will be released later this year, since it's really short and appears like a "set-up" for the next novels. [There's hardly action in it, but engrossing nonetheless.] I asked Ray in his FB account, and he said it really will be next year.
If Sage will drop all he's reading right now, he can finish all the Feist novels in a month or two. |
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Azuth
Senior Scribe
USA
404 Posts |
Posted - 02 Apr 2011 : 03:33:54
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Originally posted by ChieftainTwilight
part of me wants to say Spellfire from the Shandral Shessair series... but I never could finish that book. the danged apprentice mage's training was so damn tedious and pointless that I gave up.
I'm pretty sure that I cried in all of the Drizzt books, but I think the first one that realy hit me to my core, a cry that I never forgot, was when Zaknafien died in Sojourn. I spent my entire life trying to get to know my stepdad, and Drizzt Do-Urden was my first male role-model. kinda sad, I know, but... eh. >///<
The last book in that series is really well written, even by Ed's standards.
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Azuth, the First Magister
Lord of All Spells
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Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 02 Apr 2011 : 03:49:13
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Originally posted by Azuth
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Originally posted by ChieftainTwilight
part of me wants to say Spellfire from the Shandral Shessair series... but I never could finish that book. the danged apprentice mage's training was so damn tedious and pointless that I gave up.
I'm pretty sure that I cried in all of the Drizzt books, but I think the first one that realy hit me to my core, a cry that I never forgot, was when Zaknafien died in Sojourn. I spent my entire life trying to get to know my stepdad, and Drizzt Do-Urden was my first male role-model. kinda sad, I know, but... eh. >///<
The last book in that series is really well written, even by Ed's standards.
The ubiquitousness of the roach destroyed whatever appreciation I have for that series. |
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Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 02 Apr 2011 : 03:57:20
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Dennis
Pug's reminiscences [of all those he lost in his very long existence] in various novels in the Riftwar Cycle, particularly the last 4 books, oft times moved me.
Some of his loses have had the same effect on me... Particular the rather recent on on Sorcerer's Isle, or when he couldn't accompany Katala back to Thuril.
I really need to get back to reading these books...
Aye. And I recommend you follow this READING ORDER. |
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althen artren
Senior Scribe
USA
780 Posts |
Posted - 02 Apr 2011 : 04:05:42
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Dennis, Dennis, Dennis,
surely you know about SageTime now, right? |
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Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 02 Apr 2011 : 04:07:02
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Somehow I forgot! |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 02 Apr 2011 : 04:30:37
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| Indeed. As neat as that listing is, I doubt I'll follow its prescribed course. SageTime means I'll likely read them in the order that best suits my current reading schedule [or lack thereof]. |
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Eltheron
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 02 Apr 2011 : 04:51:20
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I can't say that a Realms book has ever made me cry, but I've found several of them very moving.
Although they're older novels, Elaine Cunningham's Songs and Swords series and her Starlight and Shadows novels were very moving on many levels. They exemplify the Realms for me.
Salvatore's Cleric Quintet was a true gem of storytelling, it really was a spiritual journey for Cadderly.
I really loved many other novel series for their fun and intrigue, but those three sets stand out in my mind as ones that affected me on a deeper level.
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ChieftainTwilight
Learned Scribe
171 Posts |
Posted - 02 Apr 2011 : 06:25:10
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Originally posted by Dennis
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Originally posted by Azuth
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Originally posted by ChieftainTwilight
part of me wants to say Spellfire from the Shandral Shessair series... but I never could finish that book. the danged apprentice mage's training was so damn tedious and pointless that I gave up.
I'm pretty sure that I cried in all of the Drizzt books, but I think the first one that realy hit me to my core, a cry that I never forgot, was when Zaknafien died in Sojourn. I spent my entire life trying to get to know my stepdad, and Drizzt Do-Urden was my first male role-model. kinda sad, I know, but... eh. >///<
The last book in that series is really well written, even by Ed's standards.
The ubiquitousness of the roach destroyed whatever appreciation I have for that series.
@ Azuth: so I've heard. in fact, my Mistress takes her Chosen Name (and character name based most on her) from the main character; Shandrel Shessiar (Shandi for short, though I more often call her Shan), a spinoff of Shandral Shessair.
@Dennis: :shudders.: must we use that word? I hate roaches... I'm Floridian, see? I've seen'em get pretty ****ing big... up to a foot long!
sides, I rather like Manshoon. >.> but we've had this debate before. XD |
and a heart can only break so many times
and I've been to hell and back so many times
and I've seen folks walk away so many times
but just like anyone else I gotta stand up by myself
and a heart can only break so many times
a heart can only break so many times
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 02 Apr 2011 : 06:39:43
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I don't think there's any rule here in CK saying we're not allowed to call some FR characters using insect names.
I've seen enough posts by other scribes "labeling" or colorfully naming some of my favorite characters. But do I care? Not a mote. They're free to do so as much as I. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36906 Posts |
Posted - 02 Apr 2011 : 14:23:31
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Originally posted by Dennis
Aye. And I recommend you follow this READING ORDER.
I'm not a fan of the idea that the proper reading order is the publication order... It makes more sense to me, in this case, to read all the books set during the Riftwar *before* going to a point a generation later.
But that's something that has been argued before.  |
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Azuth
Senior Scribe
USA
404 Posts |
Posted - 02 Apr 2011 : 18:10:38
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I must agree. I remember when I read Death of the Dragon I didn't even know that Beyond the High Road had come out (I don't believe it ever was published in Hard Cover) and I was a bit confused on the former's beginning. I still read the entire book without much of a problem, and when I finally read the latter, is was more of a back-filler for the story to me.
Admittedly, I don't think that would have worked for say, the Avatar Triolgy, but I'm not going to get started there, either.
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Azuth, the First Magister
Lord of All Spells
The greatest expression of creativity is through Art.
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ChieftainTwilight
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 02 Apr 2011 : 22:49:49
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Originally posted by Dennis
I don't think there's any rule here in CK saying we're not allowed to call some FR characters using insect names.
I've seen enough posts by other scribes "labeling" or colorfully naming some of my favorite characters. But do I care? Not a mote. They're free to do so as much as I.
no, I woldn't presume to limit you... I'm just asking as a favour. ^_^; I seriously... can't.. stand them... very severe phobia. |
and a heart can only break so many times
and I've been to hell and back so many times
and I've seen folks walk away so many times
but just like anyone else I gotta stand up by myself
and a heart can only break so many times
a heart can only break so many times
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 03 Apr 2011 : 01:30:22
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A foot long, you say?
Could a Kobold ride a Dire Roach?  |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 03 Apr 2011 : 03:08:26
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Originally posted by Markustay
A foot long, you say?
Could a Kobold ride a Dire Roach?
I've never seen roaches that big, and I'm also in Florida. I think three or four inches would be the biggest I've seen.
I've seen some very big, very ugly grasshoppers, though. They used to freak me out when I was little -- particularly when one tried to get away after I'd stomped on it as hard as I could at 7 or 8 years of age.
Something like that could work as a kobold mount, after being made dire. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 03 Apr 2011 : 03:21:00
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Something like that could work as a kobold mount, after being made dire.
This is definitely being worked into my campaigns. Somewhere.  |
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 03 Apr 2011 : 03:45:03
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Originally posted by ChieftainTwilight
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Originally posted by Dennis
I don't think there's any rule here in CK saying we're not allowed to call some FR characters using insect names.
I've seen enough posts by other scribes "labeling" or colorfully naming some of my favorite characters. But do I care? Not a mote. They're free to do so as much as I.
no, I woldn't presume to limit you... I'm just asking as a favour. ^_^; I seriously... can't.. stand them... very severe phobia.
Sorry, but I see no better alternative name for Shoon, and I've been thinking of him as such ever since "meeting" him in the Realms, so I don't think I could call him/it anything else.
About that foot-long roach, I don't know, but according to this site, the world's largest cockroach is the giant burrowing cockroach (Macropanesthia rhinoceros). This species can attain a length of 8.3 cm (3.3 in) and a weight of 36 g (1.3 oz).
And don't underestimate the small ones. One of my elementary teachers had a terrible experience with them. A roach half the size of her pinkie entered her left ear, making her half-deaf for a few days. Ever since, she couldn't sleep without earplugs. |
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Azuth
Senior Scribe
USA
404 Posts |
Posted - 03 Apr 2011 : 04:28:05
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Something like that could work as a kobold mount, after being made dire.
This is definitely being worked into my campaigns. Somewhere.
And that is a story with which I hope you'll regale all of us here in the Keep. When the Dire Grasshopper is spec'ed out, we'll need to know it's flying class and turning radius while mounted by a small- and medium-sized humanoid. Presumably they'd have a negative to stealth due to their loud wings, but an attack/damage bonus due to sheer ick-factor. Do you think they would be summonable via a Creeping Doom if cast by a giant? Presumably, they could be turned by a priest of Chauntea. Admittedly, such a scene in a novel would make be burst into tears of laughter!
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Azuth, the First Magister
Lord of All Spells
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 03 Apr 2011 : 04:42:43
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Loud wings can easily be remedied through spell of silence. |
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Azuth
Senior Scribe
USA
404 Posts |
Posted - 03 Apr 2011 : 05:20:35
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Originally posted by Dennis
Loud wings can easily be remedied through spell of silence.
A special ability for the Dire Grasshopper, or something a kobold cleric or wizard need cast before battle?
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Azuth, the First Magister
Lord of All Spells
The greatest expression of creativity is through Art.
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Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 03 Apr 2011 : 05:31:14
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I say the first. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 03 Apr 2011 : 06:58:12
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Originally posted by Azuth
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Something like that could work as a kobold mount, after being made dire.
This is definitely being worked into my campaigns. Somewhere.
And that is a story with which I hope you'll regale all of us here in the Keep.
I can certainly try and make the attempt, just as soon as I've discovered HOW exactly, I'm going to drop this into my next campaign session.  |
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The Fantasy Novel That Made You Cry *Spoilers*
