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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis

It's not that obscure, Zanan. It's a fairly easy to find book, or at least it was at the time.

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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis

Yes, there is in fact an enrty for that deity, though it may be under a different name- don't have the book avilable ATM, but I distinctly remember the entry on the "unicorn god" in the fey section. In fact, most of the FR pantheons are statted in the book, at least as far as non-human pantheons. It even mentions lich and vampire "gods" and the entire lycanthrope pantheon. (Tiger, bear, wolf, fox, and boar deities) Though none of these are actually used in FR lore, some of them could be tweaked for use as aspects of normal FR deities. The unicorn deity, if I remember, is listed after Tytania and Oberon, along with Robin Goodfellow(Puck) and the Unseelie Queen-whatever-her-name-is. The entry might mention him(her?) being known as Lurue in Faerun, but I can't remember for certain. It's been several years since I cracked it open so my recollection is slightly rusty.

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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis

Thank you, Sage. Really though, if I had the book handy I'd look it up, and as MT mentioned some FR deities were mentioned as being aspects or alternate names for others. The unicorn god(dess) WAS in there, as that was the first place I had ever seen it, and I bought that book long before I started really getting into Realms-specific lore.. Whether it was named or intended to be Lurue is the part I don't recall off-hand. As an interesting aside, the were-pantheon had some interesting background about the four main deities being in pairs- bear/tiger and wolf/fox as mates or brother/sister. While I'm not certain how many lycanthropes would actively follow such deities, I believe that lore was intended to give those "races" a sort of patron to watch over their interests. Most of the fey gods in that book seem to have been intended for the same purpose. The draconic pantheon was in there as well, and the undead ones seem to have been there mostly for vampires to have a sort of "king" or "creator", much like in WoD.

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Posted - 13 Oct 2010 : 17:11:00 The problem is (which I discussed in my post that I accidentally erased) is that the fey lore is hard to do in FR, simply because of the all-pervasiveness of FR in terms of the other settings.

Not only did the Fey (Le'Shay) come from Toril (a creator race can't be an interloper - that wouldn't make any sense), but we also have lore that the Drow Descent happened there! Add to that many other bits, like Paul Kemp's 'Shadow Lore' concerning Shar, and it appears that FR may be the most important world in the DungĂ´verse (my newest term - that describes the D&D-specific universe).

Basically, the Le'Shay are a creator race, and I would hazard to guess they were the first, but remained hidden from the others (since they started-out as beings of pure energy, that was fairly simple to accomplish). Then they left, presumably because of the Affair of the Black Diamond, which must have happened on Toril, since that is the story of why they left Ladinion and established Faerie (and Elaine has established that the Elves originated in Faerie).

Ergo, we have chronologically: Fey live on Toril, Fey interact with Dwarves, (some) Fey get corrupted and Ladinion is destroyed, Fey establish new home in the Feywild called 'Faerie', Abeir and Toril are split asunder, Fey send Sylvan Elves to Toril, Eladrin flee Tintageer (their own settlement within the Realm of Faerie, yet outside of Titania's Court).

That is the timeline, in a nutshell. We can add to that that the Fey called themselves the Le'Shay, and were somehow concerned with the dragons (who appear to have been 'seeded' onto some crystal spheres). we also know that the Le'Shay have had problems with Giants (Mostly Fomorians, but also corrupted versions of others). This gives us tenuous connections between the Fey, dragons, dwarves, and Giants (through both the dragons and the dwarves).

There also seems to be some proto-history concerning aberrations - mostly Aboleths and time-traveling Illithids - but I'm not sure how, or even if, they are connected. I haven't read any of Mr.Cordell's recent work so I can't even begin to fit any of that in. I have to assume that all goes back to the 'Slimy Time', perhaps during the Age of the First Sun.

Anyhow, I had all that stuff (except the aberration material) connected together in my article that I lost, so I have to work on rebuilding that. Suffice it to say that the original Dark Elves were the ones that had been corrupted by the Black Diamond. Many of them followed their Fey brethren into the Feywild (although not everyone was to happy about that), where the Le'Shay established Faerie (their Realm). It was at this time, when Faerie was first built (similar to a domain within Ravenloft, except this was in the feywild)) that the Fey were forced to take corporeal form permanently (thus becoming the Le'Shay). From that point on, all children born to those first-comers within Faerie were called El'Adrin (loyal childrin), and only retained their immortality so long as the remained within the Feywild. Children born outside of Faerie, but still within the Feywild, were even less powerful, and became known as Sylvanoi (folk of the wood).

Some time after there was conflict between the uncorrupted (Seelie) and Corrupted (Unseelie) Fey, and the Unseelie were forced to flee Faerie (but not necessarily the Feywild). Only one large tribe of those - the Ilythiir - remained behind in Faerie when the others left (that's not canon, but it works). Then the Sylvan Elves - which the Dark-Elven Ilythiir were part of - were sent forth from Faerie (that's in the GHotR).

Your Elder Drow can easily fit into this progression. The Ilythiir were children of those first fey - the offspring of those that had been tainted by the Black Diamond. HOWEVER, those were the mortal offspring - some of original tainted Fey could still exist, and be those 'Elder Drow'. In truth, they would actually be Corrupted Fey, but since they gave birth to the dark Elven race it all fits.

That they were the 'progenitors' makes them even scarier and more mysterious (as the Le'Shay relate to the Elves and Eladrin) IMHO.

Hope some of that helps.

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Hmm, MT, I like that idea! And if Lurue is "life" then Malar as the bestial side of nature would be "death", right? Nobanion could be "balance" or perhaps "civilization". But I also like the old Ed-lore of Lurue and Nobanion being the lion and unicorn of old British folklore. He might be the aspect of fey nobility and strength, where the unicorn would be their purity and grace. Just a few thoughts.

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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis

It was stated in one of Ed's old replies, I think, that Lurue was one of the first FR gods, so the unicorn deity probably pre-dates those two. That would likely mean that they are just lesser aspects of Lurue, at least according to the (new) lore. Mielikki was also a Finnish goddess, so is probably an interloper, and Silvanus is Celtic, though I think that panthon was one of the first in the FR. But I was referring more to the fact that Lurue is both nature AND magic. (Also stated in Ed's reply on the subject. Wooly or Sage would know where to find it....)

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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis

Ah. That's the one! Thanks again, Sage. You really deserve a medal for having such a great memory of where everything is stashed around here.

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For your sense of time, on the other hand? Not so much.... LOL!! (Then again ,you were the one who said sage and thyme don't mix :P Which is odd, because I'm quite fond of mixing them in my cooking....)

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