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Naeryndam
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Posted - 29 Jun 2010 :  20:22:18  Show Profile Send Naeryndam a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Ok so I have another Elf-related question. I’ve been reading a lot of book recently that include the Feywild. First of all (for readers of Elaine Cunningham) is the Feywild the same thing as Faerie? In other words, was Tintageer in the Feywild? Also, is Arvandor there and does the Feywild include Evermeet now, as well as the Seelie and Unseelie Courts?

Basically, I’m unsure of what the Feywild is. I’d never even heard of the place before 4E and now it seems like I’m stumbling on it everywhere I turn.

On a side note, it seems as though there are literally THOUSANDS of questions that need to be answered about the effects of the Spellplague. I know some people like the whole "anything can happen" thing, but IMO, way too much has been left unexplained... at least for my taste.


Mr_Miscellany
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Posted - 29 Jun 2010 :  21:04:31  Show Profile Send Mr_Miscellany a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Evermeet is now located fully in the Feywild.
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Quale
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Posted - 29 Jun 2010 :  22:11:21  Show Profile Send Quale a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Also Arvandor is in the Astral Sea but it has a connection (gates) to the Feywild=Faerie.

Titania was changed into Tiandra the Summer Queen and Queen of Air and Darkness into Auril.
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The Sage
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Posted - 30 Jun 2010 :  00:57:02  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mr_Miscellany

Evermeet is now located fully in the Feywild.

There is, however, a slight temporal echo of the Green Isle now sitting where Evermeet used to be.

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Markustay
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Faerie is definately within the Feywild, but it may not be the same thing as the entire Feywild. So far the two have been used interchangably, but that doesn't mean there isn't room within the Feywild for stuff 'outside' of the realms of Faerie (for all we know, 'Faerie' may just be a single Kingdom).

So yes, Tintageer was in Faerie, which is in the Feywild, but that also doesn't mean that Evermeet appeared within the borders of Faerie, if indeed Faerie is just a single region within the Feywild. Thus far the assumption is that Evermeet appeared in (or near) Tintageer's former position in Faerie, but that may not prove to be the case.

Also, given the highly mutable and morphous nature of the (demi?-)Plane of Faerie in past editions, none of that may even be relevant. Or conversely, 'Faerie' may be one of the few semi-stable regions within the Feywild. Hopefully we will get some Fey lore someday.

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Joran Nobleheart
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Posted - 30 Jun 2010 :  03:43:00  Show Profile  Visit Joran Nobleheart's Homepage Send Joran Nobleheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wasn't a book written in 3E about Faerie? A different company I think than Wizards, but stiil, I thought one was put out that was rather interesting. Does that sound familiar to anyone here, I hope?

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The Sage
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Posted - 30 Jun 2010 :  04:03:37  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Joran Nobleheart

Wasn't a book written in 3E about Faerie? A different company I think than Wizards, but stiil, I thought one was put out that was rather interesting. Does that sound familiar to anyone here, I hope?

Aye. 'Twas Bastion Press, the d20 Faeries tome.

Steven Schend, who partly edited the book, had this little bit to say:-

"For those interested in another take/option on Faerie, there is a D20 option from Bastion Press y'all might want to take a look at.....

Bryon Wischstadt, long-time Realms fanatic and all-around good guy, wrote this guide to Faerie (both the realm/plane and inhabitants) and yours truly edited it alongside him. As both of us (and Jim Butler, Bastion's president, CEO, and chief cook and bottle washer) all have a deep and abiding love for the Realms, there's nothing in there that wouldn't work in terms of using Faerie as a source for ancient elves (or other more modern threats). It's a mix of old folklore and modern conceptions of Faerie and even stats up Old Man Winter, Father Time, and Father Christmas if you want such.

Steven
Who apologizes profusely for plugging a product but it seems relevant to the discussion at hand"

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Joran Nobleheart
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Posted - 30 Jun 2010 :  04:07:34  Show Profile  Visit Joran Nobleheart's Homepage Send Joran Nobleheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thank you very much, Sage. I'm going to go looking for it right now.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 30 Jun 2010 :  05:15:09  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It's a nice book. I've got a copy of it, meself. 'Twas actually one of my first buys of 3rd party gaming stuff!

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The Sage
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Posted - 30 Jun 2010 :  05:18:52  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I actually bought two copies of Faeries -- one for home and one for work. I really do love reading this book, and it never fails to provide some new tidbit of curious fey lore that I can drop into one of my campaigns.

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Joran Nobleheart
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Posted - 30 Jun 2010 :  07:05:58  Show Profile  Visit Joran Nobleheart's Homepage Send Joran Nobleheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thank you both, gentlemen! Sage, may I ask what you do that the book helps with? It sounds to me that whatever you do, the benefit of having gaming books be a part of it makes it worthy of note!

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Joran Nobleheart

Thank you both, gentlemen! Sage, may I ask what you do that the book helps with? It sounds to me that whatever you do, the benefit of having gaming books be a part of it makes it worthy of note!

Unfortunately, I don't have the time to go into specifics at the moment [I'm at the library, using their gods-awful machines], so I'll leave that to either a PM or email.

The *jist* of it, though, is that I tend to combine most of what I draw from the book with my own other pagan/fey/spiritual elements I've long established in my Realms [and derived from previous Ed-lore on the subject posted here at Candlekeep]. In some cases however, like the various locales that are described in the book, I've largely dropped them "as is" into my Realms.

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Joran Nobleheart
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Ok, I appreciate that. I'll look for the PM or e-mail whenever you have time to send it. Thank you!

And very interesting! Sounds like this is a book really worth having!

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Knight of the Gate
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Posted - 30 Jun 2010 :  10:44:50  Show Profile Send Knight of the Gate a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Actually, sage, if you wouldn't mind posting it openly, I'm about to unleash my 'Faerie' on my PCs and I'd love to hear some of what you have to say about it.

How can life be so bountiful, providing such sublime rewards for mediocrity? -Umberto Ecco
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The Sage
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Posted - 30 Jun 2010 :  12:40:39  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That sounds "do-able."

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Barastir
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Posted - 30 Jun 2010 :  13:09:19  Show Profile Send Barastir a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Are the fomorian giants in this feywild reference book? Do they put Evermeet in danger?

Where could I find an explanation about the ancient and recent events in the Moonshaes?

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Lead by example.
Let your deeds speak your intentions.
Goodness radiated from the heart."

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Brimstone
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Posted - 30 Jun 2010 :  14:11:21  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message  Reply with Quote
IIRC the Brian R. James Grand History of the Realms: The Moonshae, or his DDI(Not Free) Article on Sarifal.

As a bonus here is the Sarifal Map...

"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep

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Barastir
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Posted - 30 Jun 2010 :  14:30:18  Show Profile Send Barastir a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone

IIRC the Brian R. James Grand History of the Realms: The Moonshae, or his DDI(Not Free) Article on Sarifal.



Thank you, Brimstone. I've read the GHoTR: Moonshae, and was just wondering if they were better detailed anywhere else. On the DDI article, maybe?

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Kno
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Not much, they war with the dwarves and archfey, have spriggan armies.

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Barastir
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Posted - 06 Jul 2010 :  13:59:48  Show Profile Send Barastir a Private Message  Reply with Quote
OK, and thank you, Kno.

But what's an "archfey"? They are related to the leShay?

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Kno
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They're like demon lords or archdevils only for fey. Relkath of the Infinite Branches, Lurue the Unicorn Queen, Verenestra the oak Princess, Sarula Iliene the Nixie Queen, Aurilandür the Frost Sprite Queen, and Deep Sashelas. leShay are the fey creator race, but their queen is not mentionen as an archfey, maybe not powerful enough.

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Barastir
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Posted - 06 Jul 2010 :  15:44:11  Show Profile Send Barastir a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kno

They're like demon lords or archdevils only for fey. Relkath of the Infinite Branches, Lurue the Unicorn Queen, Verenestra the oak Princess, Sarula Iliene the Nixie Queen, Aurilandür the Frost Sprite Queen, and Deep Sashelas. leShay are the fey creator race, but their queen is not mentionen as an archfey, maybe not powerful enough.


I see, they were lesser deities in the older editions, or maybe local deities. Now they could be like exarchs, or maybe someting just below them, right? Thank you once again, Kno.

"Goodness is not a natural state, but must be
fought for to be attained and maintained.
Lead by example.
Let your deeds speak your intentions.
Goodness radiated from the heart."

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