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MrHedgehog
Senior Scribe
688 Posts |
 Posted - 09 Jun 2010 : 09:53:39
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Do you think of gnomes as they used to appear, with large noses and whatnot, or as they appeared in later editions looking like perfect little super models?
And Dwarven females suddenly not having beards anymore... I'd always had trouble coming to terms with females with beards because of ingrained gender roles but:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu3EcAHdHlE
This video somehow made beards seem perfectly feminine to me!
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
2950 Posts |
Posted - 09 Jun 2010 : 11:03:05
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| The old versions were far, far better. And I never saw a gnome that looked like a supermodel, at least in the few 3ed. books I saw. The changes done to the races to give them a more "appealing" look to humans is one of the most irritating and annoying things about 3ed. for me personally. Along with the maps of course. |
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Thauramarth
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
729 Posts |
Posted - 09 Jun 2010 : 12:36:04
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Gnomes are illusionists, remember? They are still as ugly (or pretty - beauty is in the eye of the beholder - all eleven of them) as they were, but they've streamlined the PR  . |
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skychrome
Senior Scribe
713 Posts |
Posted - 09 Jun 2010 : 17:43:08
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I rather prefer the gnomes more big-nose-like, than otherwise. And the halfling ilustrations in 4e which looked more like miniature human fighters don't work for me neither.
Regaring beards on dwarven women... I could never make up my mind. I think both versions are somehow weired...  |
"You make an intriguing offer, one that is very tempting. It would seem that I have little alternative than to answer thusly: DISINTEGRATE!" Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick 625 |
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Kilvan
Senior Scribe
Canada
894 Posts |
Posted - 09 Jun 2010 : 18:48:14
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Bearded female dwarves are probably the reason I hardly used them in my campaign, or were not taken seriously by the PCs when I did used them. I can understand that some people don't like changes made to cannon, but this is one change I actually approve.
As for the gnomes, I honestly don't mind the small-human version. Since in-game you can't actually 'see' them, each players (and me) are free to visualize them as they wish. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 09 Jun 2010 : 19:00:05
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I believe that non-human races should look NON-HUMAN.
In my homebrew I am working on, my 'halflings' look more like a cross between a saytr and a human, with a little raccoon thrown in for good measure. That's just one example of how I am trying to pull them further away from humanity.
I do not want anyone thinking that beings of another race are attractive - that never made sense to me. Sure, you'll always have 'weirdos' that are into that sort of thing, but basically what we are talking about here is a form of bestiality.
Even my Elves, although strangely 'exoctic', would not entice most humans to their beds, without a bit of glamour (and the majority of my Elves also look at humans as animals, so they wouldn't even bother to try).
Coming from a SciFi background before discovering fantasy, I still look at non-humans as Aliens - strange intelligent beings that neither look like humans nor think like them. |
"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone
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Gambit
Learned Scribe
110 Posts |
Posted - 09 Jun 2010 : 20:19:51
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I actually like what Pathfinder has done with Gnomes, making them semi fey like with eccentric hair.
As for dwarven females sans beards, I support this. |
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Quale
Master of Realmslore
1757 Posts |
Posted - 09 Jun 2010 : 21:28:02
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I imagine gnomes as they appear in 2e monstrous manual, I think that's the Di Terlizzi's version and is the best.
Dwarves, I prefer them even more distant from humankind, inspired by real-world mythology, associated with the world of the dead, almost spirit-like. And the beards should stay, makes them more unique, Tolkien's or Pratchett's dwarves are cooler than any other version I've seen, until a better idea appears.
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Originally posted by Markustay
I believe that non-human races should look NON-HUMAN.
I do not want anyone thinking that beings of another race are attractive - that never made sense to me. Sure, you'll always have 'weirdos'
What about when you posted the pictures of orc chicks or the cat-women? |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 10 Jun 2010 : 00:22:45
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What can I say?
I got a little 'Captain Kirk' in me.  |
"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone
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demihumans made pretty
