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Gambit
Learned Scribe
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 Posted - 01 Jun 2010 : 22:58:03
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Just curious my friends, in your opinion what would be the best location to set the Kingmaker Adventure Path from Paizo in our beloved Faerun. It has a Stonelands feel to me, although if this was chosen for the setting you wouldnt actually be a king, but relegated to lord of that land who answers to the Obarskyr throne.
Why do I have a sneaking suspicion that Ashe may give his feedback to this topic. 
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Brimstone
Great Reader
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Posted - 01 Jun 2010 : 23:15:37
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One of the Dales.
The Hullack Forest.
The Stonelands.
Somewhere in the Western Heartlands.
One of the Border Kingdoms.
The Great Dale. |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
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Posted - 01 Jun 2010 : 23:41:14
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Chult and Maztica work pretty well too... Granted, they don't have the same 'flavor' as the AP, but basically anywhere that can be viewed as 'expansionist' territory could be used.
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Quale
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 03 Jun 2010 : 15:24:13
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| The best choice imo would be the Great Dale, the slavic-inspired Brevoy being replaced by Damara, there's a lot of rivers in the area, it is frontier-like, and make Iobaria in the Endless Waste plagued by Talona's blightlords. Another similarity are the Icerime and the Icerim Mountains. |
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Knight of the Gate
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 03 Jun 2010 : 16:24:47
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| The Great Dale only works if you're running a hyper powerful party: There are two epic spellcasters backed by dozens and dozens of mid- to -high level druids and clerics (not to mention servitor creatures and rangers on both sides) fighting over the Great Dale as is. If you want to use that area, why not Vaassa prior to Gareth's assimilation thereof? |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
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Posted - 03 Jun 2010 : 16:31:26
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That's the difficulty about placing this AP into the Realms. No matter where you go, you're probably going to go against canon sources for what's in the area.
Which isn't a bad thing. |
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Quale
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 03 Jun 2010 : 19:00:59
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| Vaasa could work too, there's plenty of barbarians nearby, you could have the cyclops and the cyclops-lich as the remnants of Ostoria, my thoughts against it were that it is too cold (I think later boggards will be in the Adventure Path, tough the Bottomless Bogs fit) and cause of the centaurs (from Endless Wastes) and the fey in the end. It depends how much you are loose with canon, Entreri and Jarlaxle could kill the adventurers and take their Stolen Land just as well as the Rotting Man (and he died in 1374 DR, and the nentyarch never wanted to be king anyway). |
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Knight of the Gate
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 03 Jun 2010 : 19:13:57
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Originally posted by Quale
just as well as the Rotting Man (and he died in 1374 DR, and the nentyarch never wanted to be king anyway).
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The Nentyarch (or as my players call him, 'the Nenty-nent') Might not want to be king, but he damn sure isn't gonna let anyone else be king, either.
The Vaassa idea works, IMO, because it also forces the players to negotiate with Gareth, who may or may not approve of a new kingdom arising next to Damara. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 03 Jun 2010 : 19:37:49
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3e or 4e?
The Glacier continues to recede, so in 4e a new area in Vassa or Damara could be opening up to the far north.
By the same token, either the Vassans or Damarans could want to stake some new territory in Narfell. Or even the Rashemi - depending on the time frame, they may not like what is happening amongst the Narfelli tribes and wish to establish a dukedom there.
In all of these cases, though, the adventure would have to be adjusted so that the 'winner' was subject to someone else, and not a king.
I like the Border kingdoms for this - it fits well, but establishing a kingdom along the western border of the Hordelands might work - you already have that Slavic feel around the Lake of Mists. Also, if you keep it around that lake region, you won't be stepping on the toes of the new kingdom of Yaïmmunahar (although they would probably demand tribute at some point). If you go there, you could keep it a king. |
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Gambit
Learned Scribe
110 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jun 2010 : 00:40:43
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Originally posted by Markustay
3e or 4e?
3E, as far as I'm concerned official canon stops at 1375. Thanks for all the great ideas everyone. |
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Joran Nobleheart
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 07 Jun 2010 : 01:38:34
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Originally posted by Gambit
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Originally posted by Markustay
3e or 4e?
3E, as far as I'm concerned official canon stops at 1375. Thanks for all the great ideas everyone.
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