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HandsomeRob
Seeker
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 Posted - 30 Apr 2010 : 15:38:08
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Hello Markus,
I hope you're not offended by me co-opting all of your wonderful work for my project. I was tremendously inspired by the work you did, and when it seemed like you would not be continuing I decided to try my hand at it.
You're an all-star, basically, and any thanks or praise that I get for the maps I've shared should totally go to you instead.
So thanks, and I'm glad you're back.
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skychrome
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 30 Apr 2010 : 16:04:49
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Hi there Markus, hope to see you around here more frequently again!  |
"You make an intriguing offer, one that is very tempting. It would seem that I have little alternative than to answer thusly: DISINTEGRATE!" Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick 625 |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 30 Apr 2010 : 16:09:20
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Geeze, as if my head wasn't swollen enough. 
Thanks for the praise - I've had a strange and very coincidental set of circumstances bring my attention back to the Realms. I've been traveling quite a bit and have run into people still running the Realms - Kara Tur and Al Quadim on particular. In all cases their re-interest in the greater realms was generated about 2 yrs ago by a set of Map WIPs they saw online....
So it comes full-circle and here I am - I am still not home yet, but should be by the end of the weekend, and I feel the urge to open Photoshop back up for a spell.
HandsomeRob - no worries - I'm just glad someone else is still carrying the torch; this is a community after all, and FR is something we all help to add to. It deserves constant attention and should never be 'shelved'. Your work is excellent and a bit different then the direction I had begun heading in before my hiatus.
EDIT: Oh, and Thank You everyone for welcoming me back - it reminds me of why I came here in the first place. |
"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
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coach
Senior Scribe
USA
479 Posts |
Posted - 30 Apr 2010 : 18:34:28
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Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart
Right... Now that the pleasantries are out of the way:
Where's my Shou map?!? 
Glad to have you back MT!
right ... and let's gets going on Cold Lands project
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Bloodstone Lands Sage |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 01 May 2010 : 01:36:25
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Originally posted by coach
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Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart
Right... Now that the pleasantries are out of the way:
Where's my Shou map?!?
Glad to have you back MT!
right ... and let's gets going on Cold Lands project
LOL
Wasn't I supposed to be involved in that? Or was that Markus's Sossal project? |
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Razz
Senior Scribe
USA
749 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2010 : 01:48:44
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Oh wow, welcome back Markustay! Yes, you definitely were missed. You and that wonderful geographic knowledge and artistry! LOL And as a previous poster said, where's my Kara-Tur map!? LOL j/k
I just posted on Running the Realms a project suggestion for incorporating geography that existed pre-Spellplague showing up in the 4E Realmslore articles of Dungeon Magazine. Not only reference info, but also stuff to include into a map (example, check Vaasa map in Dungeon #177).
Not a request from you, of course, but I bring it up as something to consider should you do decide to open up Photoshop once again. |
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Razz
Senior Scribe
USA
749 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2010 : 01:59:02
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Originally posted by coach
does anyone have markus email, we were gonna start a huge project together involving sossal
handsome rob, when you are ready to make a Cold Lands/Bloodstone Lands map, PM me, i have a gigantic outline of all the mappable places in those countries, all canon but many not found on many of the main maps
You probably already know this by now, but Dungeon #177 has a map of Vaasa (and a little bit of southern Great Glacier, all of Thar, and east Damara). I believe most of the geography described is pre-Spellplague, and half the sites also. Of course, with the new positioning of the 4E Realms map, a little guesswork is needed to plant these on an earlier Realms map. Other than that, it's definitely much needed info to include on a all-encompassing Bloodstones map. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2010 : 15:22:52
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Originally posted by The Sage
Wasn't I supposed to be involved in that? Or was that Markus's Sossal project?
We discussed 'strange musical instruments' based upon the locale (ice flutes?) and other musical lore for Sossal, and later I decided to merge what little I had with Coach's Cold Lands project, which I suppose means you were 'merged-in' as well without your knowledge.
Now if I could just somehow get my hands on that new Vassa map... |
"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 01 May 2010 : 15:58:29
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Originally posted by Markustay
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
Wasn't I supposed to be involved in that? Or was that Markus's Sossal project?
We discussed 'strange musical instruments' based upon the locale (ice flutes?) and other musical lore for Sossal, and later I decided to merge what little I had with Coach's Cold Lands project, which I suppose means you were 'merged-in' as well without your knowledge.
That's right. 
I suppose I'll dust off those old notes I started compiling then, back when this project was moving forward. |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3290 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2010 : 18:45:52
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Originally posted by Markustay
Now if I could just somehow get my hands on that new Vassa map...
This one? |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2010 : 20:12:21
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Ohhhhhh... PRETTY  |
"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone
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Pazuzu
Seeker
Germany
61 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2010 : 20:38:36
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Asharak
Learned Scribe
France
270 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2010 : 20:46:25
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Originally posted by Brimstone
This one?
Thanks a lot!    |
"Soyez réalistes : demandez l'impossible"
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Sian
Senior Scribe
Denmark
596 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2010 : 21:02:16
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| Markus ... searched a bit around since i seemed to remember you haven't done it but couldn't find it ... haven't you done a Damara/Vaasa map yourself at some point? |
what happened to the queen? she's much more hysterical than usual
She's a women, it happens once a month |
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Jakk
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 02 May 2010 : 07:02:13
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Originally posted by Brimstone
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay
Now if I could just somehow get my hands on that new Vassa map...
This one?
WOW... I have to say, if the cartography for the original 4E Faerun map had been like this, I would have been much more favorably disposed toward the new edition... the maps I've seen since then, going back to the map in the Cormyr article, have been far better products. Now, if WotC were to assemble a map of all of Faerun in that style at that scale, and make it available as a poster map,* I think they'd have a new Realms product that they'd have trouble keeping in stock... even I'd buy it, despite my dislike of the changes in the geography.
* - edit: Shipping it rolled in a tube, not folded, of course.
Re: Sian: If he has done a Bloodstone Lands map, I don't have it, and I thought I had downloaded all of his maps... 
Markus? Do you have a Vaasa/Damara map, or is this speculation unfounded? On a more general note... have you gotten that cartography itch back yet, or will we have to wait for HandsomeRob to find a download host?  No pressure on either of you, of course... Something this awesome is worth waiting for, from either of you. |
Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.
If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic. |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3290 Posts |
Posted - 02 May 2010 : 07:31:52
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Bloodstone Lands (Naked)
It is a 'Naked' map.
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"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 03 May 2010 : 12:53:35
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| AHA!! Welcome back Markus. Please take this opportunity to join the cult of Karsus. You will make a fine addition! |
Karsite Arcanar (Most Holy Servant of Karsus)
Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me:
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Sill Alias
Senior Scribe
Kazakhstan
588 Posts |
Posted - 03 May 2010 : 13:10:30
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Are you the only member of the cult? |
You can hear many tales from many mouths. The most difficult is to know which of them are not lies. - Sill Alias
"May your harp be unstrung, your dreams die and all your songs be unsung." - curse of the harper, The Code of the Harpers 2 ed.
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3290 Posts |
Posted - 03 May 2010 : 13:44:54
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Originally posted by Alisttair
AHA!! Welcome back Markus. Please take this opportunity to join the cult of Karsus. You will make a fine addition!
He wouldn't become the Kartographer of Karsus on the Wizards Boards... |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 03 May 2010 : 16:31:26
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Originally posted by Sill Alias
Are you the only member of the cult?
I believe Cleric Generic is the official High Priest, thus I am not the only member |
Karsite Arcanar (Most Holy Servant of Karsus)
Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me:
http://www.dmsguild.com/m/product/172023 |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 03 May 2010 : 17:47:53
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LOL - actually I was working on a new (3e) edition of the Bloodstone Lands, in order to further update it and project it forward for a 4e Vassa project I was briefly involved in over at the WotC boards.
In fact, it may have been that very map that made me start a new world map, because I had to up the resolution in order to get in all the tiny details - it isn't easy reconciling the original (non-FR) Bloodstone maps with the later versions of Vassa and Damara.
Anyhow, I opened up PS once since I've been back to check something, but haven't done any new mapping yet - I have to see where I was at with everything (its been awhile).
The idea was to create a PDF of FR with layers, so DMs could print what they wanted (and alleviate me the need to create those naked maps separately). Maybe I'll do one of just The North (for now) to see how that works out. |
"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone
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coach
Senior Scribe
USA
479 Posts |
Posted - 03 May 2010 : 18:09:10
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well, it took 21 years but my initial placement of the Ice Gorge is finally verified canonically in a map
Lothchas bandit camp need not be moved! LOL |
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Cleric Generic
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
565 Posts |
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coach
Senior Scribe
USA
479 Posts |
Posted - 03 May 2010 : 18:22:14
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Originally posted by Markustay
LOL - actually I was working on a new (3e) edition of the Bloodstone Lands, in order to further update it and project it forward for a 4e Vassa project I was briefly involved in over at the WotC boards.
In fact, it may have been that very map that made me start a new world map, because I had to up the resolution in order to get in all the tiny details - it isn't easy reconciling the original (non-FR) Bloodstone maps with the later versions of Vassa and Damara.
Anyhow, I opened up PS once since I've been back to check something, but haven't done any new mapping yet - I have to see where I was at with everything (its been awhile).
The idea was to create a PDF of FR with layers, so DMs could print what they wanted (and alleviate me the need to create those naked maps separately). Maybe I'll do one of just The NorthEAST (for now) to see how that works out.
just fixed the typo you made because i knew you meant starting in Cold Lands area LOL |
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skychrome
Senior Scribe
713 Posts |
Posted - 03 May 2010 : 19:15:36
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| What a wonderful map! Thanks for posting the link Brimstone! |
"You make an intriguing offer, one that is very tempting. It would seem that I have little alternative than to answer thusly: DISINTEGRATE!" Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick 625 |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 04 May 2010 : 14:15:51
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Originally posted by Cleric Generic
Layered PDFs would be awesome indeed!
Lord Karsus would be most pleased; these maps are invaluable for preparing the lands of Faerun for his eminent dominion... :p
Speaking of which, the great Karsus requests that Sir Markustay draw a current map of the Dire Woods and Karse so that his minions may retrieve his physical remains... |
Karsite Arcanar (Most Holy Servant of Karsus)
Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me:
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Razz
Senior Scribe
USA
749 Posts |
Posted - 05 May 2010 : 03:58:21
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Originally posted by Jakk
Markus? Do you have a Vaasa/Damara map, or is this speculation unfounded? On a more general note... have you gotten that cartography itch back yet, or will we have to wait for HandsomeRob to find a download host? No pressure on either of you, of course... Something this awesome is worth waiting for, from either of you.
A Markustay/HandsomeRob team up would be some pretty insane, yet splendidly perfected, Toril maps. |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3290 Posts |
Posted - 05 May 2010 : 04:14:13
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Originally posted by skychrome
What a wonderful map! Thanks for posting the link Brimstone!
Tips hat... |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep |
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Darkmeer
Senior Scribe
USA
505 Posts |
Posted - 05 May 2010 : 06:47:38
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quote:
Originally posted by Markustay
LOL - actually I was working on a new (3e) edition of the Bloodstone Lands, in order to further update it and project it forward for a 4e Vassa project I was briefly involved in over at the WotC boards.
In fact, it may have been that very map that made me start a new world map, because I had to up the resolution in order to get in all the tiny details - it isn't easy reconciling the original (non-FR) Bloodstone maps with the later versions of Vassa and Damara.
Anyhow, I opened up PS once since I've been back to check something, but haven't done any new mapping yet - I have to see where I was at with everything (its been awhile).
The idea was to create a PDF of FR with layers, so DMs could print what they wanted (and alleviate me the need to create those naked maps separately). Maybe I'll do one of just The North (for now) to see how that works out.
>gets folding chair from the back room<
I'll be happy to wait. I'm always happy to see my favorite cartographers' works.
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"These people are my family, not just friends, and if you want to get to them you gotta go through ME." |
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What happened to MarkusTay?
