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_Jarlaxle_
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 Posted - 05 Apr 2010 : 19:05:25
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Are there any known demiliches in the Realms?
I'm woundering because I never heard of one but there are so many powerfull liches who exist for such a long time but don't seem to want to become a demilich for some reason
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Cleric Generic
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Thauramarth
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
732 Posts |
Posted - 05 Apr 2010 : 20:05:45
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| Shoon, former inhabitant of the Tome of the Unicorn, definitely. As to why they would want to avoid becoming one - demiliches let go of their concern with the world, and their spirits go and explore other dimensions. Liches that stick around are still mired in the daily grind of the Realms. |
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Victor_ograygor
Master of Realmslore
Denmark
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Knight of the Gate
Senior Scribe
USA
624 Posts |
Posted - 05 Apr 2010 : 20:15:31
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| There's a named demilich under a hill in the Border Kingdoms... It is detailed in Eds Border Kingdom articles on WotCs website. I'm on my phone rather than my laptop ATM so I don't have the link, but Wooly certainly does; is there a hamster in the house? |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 06 Apr 2010 : 00:16:31
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Originally posted by Knight of the Gate
There's a named demilich under a hill in the Border Kingdoms... It is detailed in Eds Border Kingdom articles on WotCs website. I'm on my phone rather than my laptop ATM so I don't have the link, but Wooly certainly does; is there a hamster in the house?
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Kno
Senior Scribe
452 Posts |
Posted - 06 Apr 2010 : 14:14:21
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| Ythazz Buvaar is a demilich, one of the founders of Thay and former zulkir |
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coach
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 07 Apr 2010 : 17:14:41
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| not sure about demi-lich, but the "Liches" in Ghost King have evolved into something past a regular lich IMO |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 08 Apr 2010 : 15:11:37
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| Kangaxx who resides in an abandoned house in Athkatla. |
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_Jarlaxle_
Senior Scribe
Germany
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Posted - 08 Apr 2010 : 17:04:45
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Originally posted by Alisttair
Kangaxx who resides in an abandoned house in Athkatla.
Well I'm not sure if he was ever mentioned outside of Baldurs Gate 2 ;) |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 08 Apr 2010 : 17:08:23
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Originally posted by _Jarlaxle_
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Originally posted by Alisttair
Kangaxx who resides in an abandoned house in Athkatla.
Well I'm not sure if he was ever mentioned outside of Baldurs Gate 2 ;)
Which means his destruction is not canon and so he lives...or rather unlives, still.  |
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_Jarlaxle_
Senior Scribe
Germany
584 Posts |
Posted - 08 Apr 2010 : 20:20:20
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| good point :D |
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Runis Silverhammer
Acolyte
United Kingdom
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Posted - 14 Apr 2010 : 09:53:21
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| Van Richten's Guide to the Lich might satisfy your lichy interests. |
"Gygax:The new D&D is too rule intensive. It's relegated the Dungeon Master to being an entertainer rather than master of the game. It's done away with the archetypes, focused on nothing but combat and character power, lost the group cooperative aspect, bastardized the class-based system, and resembles a comic-book superheroes game more than a fantasy RPG where a player can play any alignment desired, not just lawful good. Now, should I tell you what I really think [of it]?" |
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_Jarlaxle_
Senior Scribe
Germany
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Posted - 14 Apr 2010 : 13:06:26
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| Isn't this one set in Ravenloft? So I guess there aren't many FR Demiliches in there ;) |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 14 Apr 2010 : 13:49:36
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| Yes, the Van Richten Guides are set in RAVENLOFT, but the lore contained in each is generalised enough to make them applicable for other settings, like the Realms, as well. |
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coach
Senior Scribe
USA
479 Posts |
Posted - 14 Apr 2010 : 15:25:32
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not to open up the (are CRPG creatures/places canon?) issue again but their is a demi-lich in NWN2:MotB expansion,
but it may be on a side-trip out of Rashemen to another plane?
(just researched the summary of the plot myself today and found this) |
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Victor_ograygor
Master of Realmslore
Denmark
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Kno
Senior Scribe
452 Posts |
Posted - 17 Apr 2010 : 09:38:31
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| In Spellbound (2nd ed.) campaign guide book |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 17 Apr 2010 : 13:56:03
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| There was a Lich/Skull/Demilich in the second Spellfire novel Crown of Fire. |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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BlackAce
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 Apr 2010 : 00:11:50
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Originally posted by Thauramarth
Shoon, former inhabitant of the Tome of the Unicorn, definitely. As to why they would want to avoid becoming one - demiliches let go of their concern with the world, and their spirits go and explore other dimensions. Liches that stick around are still mired in the daily grind of the Realms.
The last I read of him he had possessed a young elven female mage and assumed her identity. I don't know if there is anything subsequent that's been published, but an encounter with him will definetly not be of the hovering skull in a dungeon variety. |
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Thauramarth
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 Apr 2010 : 09:03:29
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Originally posted by Brimstone
There was a Lich/Skull/Demilich in the second Spellfire novel Crown of Fire.
In gaming terms, that one was not a demilich, me thinks. It was too dynamic for that (i.e., it actually moved from point A to point B ).
This said, I've always considered the demilich (as it functioned in 1E and 2E, I cannot comment on 3E) a bit of a weird one... Unless the players know what they are up against, it's near impossible to defeat, but it certainly packs potential for total party wipe-out. But what can you expect from a monster created for the express purpose of being the final challenge in a dungeon designed for player-killer purposes ). |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
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Posted - 18 Apr 2010 : 10:09:29
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I think it was a Lichnee.
Still, a Spellfire wielding skull is kick *** IMNSHO. |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 18 Apr 2010 : 14:51:08
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| Iliph Thraun is a lich lord, one of the Realms' several known variants on the textbook lich. |
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dragonfriend
Seeker
Italy
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Posted - 18 Apr 2010 : 23:21:16
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| If I am not wrong there was a demilich described in the Ruins of Myth Drannor boxed set. the one with the metal spellbook :) Druuth Dern? |
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Hoondatha
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 18 Apr 2010 : 23:29:00
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| Druuth isn't a demilich, he's akin to Iliph Thraun: a failed lichnee that was turned into something weird and unique instead of being blasted out of existence outright when the process failed. |
Doggedly converting 3e back to what D&D should be...
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dragonfriend
Seeker
Italy
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Posted - 18 Apr 2010 : 23:34:27
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Originally posted by Hoondatha
Druuth isn't a demilich, he's akin to Iliph Thraun: a failed lichnee that was turned into something weird and unique instead of being blasted out of existence outright when the process failed.
Thanks, I was not sure but I remember there was something wrong in him ;) |
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Cleric Generic
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 19 Apr 2010 : 01:49:52
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Originally posted by Cleric Generic
Google has failed me... What's a Lichnee?
It's a stage in the process of becoming a full lich. See REF5 Lords of Darkness. |
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Sill Alias
Senior Scribe
Kazakhstan
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Posted - 19 Apr 2010 : 14:09:39
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Sorry for continuing talk out of topic, but I have a question.
In story of Seven Sisters was mentioned that the woman, whose body Mystra possessed, was turning in the essence of lich. Can you clarify please what does that mean? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Demiliches in the Realms
