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Cleric Generic
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
565 Posts |
 Posted - 24 Apr 2010 : 20:54:21
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Nah, Faerun in 5e will be revealed to actually be the lost continent of Atlantis here on earth, and time will have jumped forward to the year 3000 when it finally defrosts from under the north pole and brings magitech to the rest of the world. Also, all previous history will simply have been the cheese-overdose dream of a frozen kobold named Gilgamesh Salazar Al'Hazred.
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Gambit
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 25 Apr 2010 : 22:49:06
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Originally posted by Cleric Generic
Also, all previous history will simply have been the cheese-overdose dream of a frozen kobold named Gilgamesh Salazar Al'Hazred.
Dont forget his deity, the magnificient, exaltant, grandiose, resplendent slayer of AO, his holiness, Pun-Pun. |
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Kyrene
Senior Scribe
South Africa
757 Posts |
Posted - 27 Apr 2010 : 20:00:14
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Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart
Here's the official response I got (probably the same as Kyrene's):quote:
Matt,
Thank you for your patience.
You can find the D&D Fan Site Toolkit under Downloads at the following link.
http://www.wizards.com/Company/Press.aspx
Take Care and Good Gaming!
We would appreciate your feedback on the service we are providing you. Please click here to fill out a short questionnaire.
To login to your account, or update your question please click here.
Pretty much.  quote:
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Thank you for writing.
You can find the D&D Fan Site Toolkit under Downloads at the following link.
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Take Care and Good Gaming!
We would appreciate your feedback on the service we are providing you. Please click here to fill out a short questionnaire.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36803 Posts |
Posted - 28 Apr 2010 : 01:18:12
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We would appreciate your feedback on the service we are providing you. Please click here to fill out a short questionnaire.
Okay, so who volunteers to tell them that a form letter is not providing service, nor is leaving us in the dark about what we can and cannot do?  |
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sfdragon
Great Reader
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Posted - 28 Apr 2010 : 01:59:25
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Originally posted by Cleric Generic
Nah, Faerun in 5e will be revealed to actually be the lost continent of Atlantis here on earth, and time will have jumped forward to the year 3000 when it finally defrosts from under the north pole and brings magitech to the rest of the world. Also, all previous history will simply have been the cheese-overdose dream of a frozen kobold named Gilgamesh Salazar Al'Hazred.
FACT.
Sadly Atlantis was a real city long ago, before we as a species acquired a generations of Amnesia. We fight amongst ourselves for so long we forgot everything.
it was on the surface long ago, before the Axis changed to as we now see it on the globe today.
maybe it will rise again one day, when the axis changes again. |
why is being a wizard like being a drow? both are likely to find a dagger in the back from a rival or one looking to further his own goals, fame and power
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Jakk
Great Reader
Canada
2165 Posts |
Posted - 28 Apr 2010 : 03:24:09
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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We would appreciate your feedback on the service we are providing you. Please click here to fill out a short questionnaire.
Okay, so who volunteers to tell them that a form letter is not providing service, nor is leaving us in the dark about what we can and cannot do?
I'd do it, but my vitriol toward Wizbro has turned into apathy thanks to the Pathfinder ruleset, Candlekeep, and the library of Realmslore I already possessed at the time of the Spellplague. I've told them what they can do to get my business back, and they've so far chosen to ignore me. 
[redo] I started to take my analysis further, but it quickly got rantish and I didn't want to be misinterpreted as flaming the wrong people, so I decided to shut up and sit down. My soapbox's structural integrity is nearing the breaking point over the last two years, and I don't feel like replacing it; take that metaphor how you will.  |
Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.
If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic. |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
3243 Posts |
Posted - 28 Apr 2010 : 03:32:53
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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We would appreciate your feedback on the service we are providing you. Please click here to fill out a short questionnaire.
Okay, so who volunteers to tell them that a form letter is not providing service, nor is leaving us in the dark about what we can and cannot do?
That's my job. And I'll be doing so on Friday. |
I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
3243 Posts |
Posted - 03 May 2010 : 04:20:05
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Well, no response. And, apparently I cannot 're-open' my incident ticket.
So, instead, I re-created the Fansite Policy thread on the WotC Forums and detailed what I've attempted. Let's see how long it lasts this time.  |
I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.
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Alphabetized Index of Realms NPCs |
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Jakk
Great Reader
Canada
2165 Posts |
Posted - 03 May 2010 : 05:12:06
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Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart
Well, no response. And, apparently I cannot 're-open' my incident ticket.
So, instead, I re-created the Fansite Policy thread on the WotC Forums and detailed what I've attempted. Let's see how long it lasts this time.
Good luck, Ashe. Keep us posted... er... pun intended, I suppose. |
Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.
If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic. |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3287 Posts |
Posted - 03 May 2010 : 07:25:16
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Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart
Well, no response. And, apparently I cannot 're-open' my incident ticket.
So, instead, I re-created the Fansite Policy thread on the WotC Forums and detailed what I've attempted. Let's see how long it lasts this time.
So someone reported you about wanting to know more about the Fansite Policy? |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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arry
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
317 Posts |
Posted - 03 May 2010 : 11:28:12
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I'm sorry Ashe, but as far as I can see WotC don't want a fansite policy.  If they did something would have been done before now. |
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Sill Alias
Senior Scribe
Kazakhstan
588 Posts |
Posted - 03 May 2010 : 11:32:23
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Originally posted by Brimstone
There will be a 5TH Edition. They will announce it at a Gencon in the future.
During the 10 or so months it takes to get released, WotC will want people to continue buying the 4E products while they bad mouth how broken, how terrible, how unplayable the 4E Rules were. While also saying how awesome, how cool, how bad *** 5E will be. Sound a little familiar?
I think have become cynical now.
Something similar happened with Heroes of Might and Magic series. Could it be that WotC have problems? |
You can hear many tales from many mouths. The most difficult is to know which of them are not lies. - Sill Alias
"May your harp be unstrung, your dreams die and all your songs be unsung." - curse of the harper, The Code of the Harpers 2 ed.
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3287 Posts |
Posted - 03 May 2010 : 11:36:56
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Originally posted by arry
I'm sorry Ashe, but as far as I can see WotC don't want a fansite policy. If they did something would have been done before now.
The Fansite policy it seems is off of WotC's radar, now that The Rouse(Scott) and Linae Foster has left WotC. |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
3243 Posts |
Posted - 03 May 2010 : 15:24:04
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Originally posted by Brimstone
quote:
Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart
Well, no response. And, apparently I cannot 're-open' my incident ticket.
So, instead, I re-created the Fansite Policy thread on the WotC Forums and detailed what I've attempted. Let's see how long it lasts this time.
So someone reported you about wanting to know more about the Fansite Policy?
Well, Webster didn't say that anyone reported me, just that doing a daily 'bump' on the thread (for over a month) wasn't the best way to get attention to the matter.
Personally, I think it's the BEST way. And the most public. |
I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.
Ashe's Character Sheet
Alphabetized Index of Realms NPCs |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 03 May 2010 : 16:30:19
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Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart
quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone
quote:
Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart
Well, no response. And, apparently I cannot 're-open' my incident ticket.
So, instead, I re-created the Fansite Policy thread on the WotC Forums and detailed what I've attempted. Let's see how long it lasts this time.
So someone reported you about wanting to know more about the Fansite Policy?
Well, Webster didn't say that anyone reported me, just that doing a daily 'bump' on the thread (for over a month) wasn't the best way to get attention to the matter.
Personally, I think it's the BEST way. And the most public.
Agreed. Hopefully you don't get banned for that, which would make THEM look stupid. |
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Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me:
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Jakk
Great Reader
Canada
2165 Posts |
Posted - 03 May 2010 : 23:55:53
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| Heh. Even three months ago, I would have happily thrown my vitriol on that fire without a second thought to how close I would be standing to the explosion. Now, I'll just say, in light of Alisttair's last comment, that we've NEVER seen human beings look stupid before. Not at all. |
Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.
If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic. |
Edited by - Jakk on 03 May 2010 23:56:41 |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
3243 Posts |
Posted - 10 May 2010 : 22:48:47
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Well, after another go around with Customer Service I got a more definitive answer:
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Wizards of the Coast cannot provide assistance with or legal interpretations for questions related to the Game System License. The webpage containing the System Reference Document (SRD) also contains the Game System License FAQ, as well as other information regarding our licenses. If you require further assistance with something beyond what can be found on our website, we recommend you consult with a lawyer or other legal professional qualified to interpret such documents.
You must contact your own legal council regarding the use of any of our possible intellectual properties. We cannot give out advice or direction on how to proceed.
Wanna make another Compendium? Hire a lawyer!
I'm am going to go now. I feel much anger flowing and need to calm myself before I turn to the dark side. |
I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.
Ashe's Character Sheet
Alphabetized Index of Realms NPCs |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31772 Posts |
Posted - 11 May 2010 : 01:03:17
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Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart
Well, after another go around with Customer Service I got a more definitive answer:
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Wizards of the Coast cannot provide assistance with or legal interpretations for questions related to the Game System License. The webpage containing the System Reference Document (SRD) also contains the Game System License FAQ, as well as other information regarding our licenses. If you require further assistance with something beyond what can be found on our website, we recommend you consult with a lawyer or other legal professional qualified to interpret such documents.
You must contact your own legal council regarding the use of any of our possible intellectual properties. We cannot give out advice or direction on how to proceed.
Wanna make another Compendium? Hire a lawyer!
I'm am going to go now. I feel much anger flowing and need to calm myself before I turn to the dark side.
Hmmm. I've actually got a legal friend who deals with issues of Intellectual Property and stuff. Maybe I can persuaede her to investigate this further. |
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Elfinblade
Senior Scribe
Norway
377 Posts |
Posted - 11 May 2010 : 01:06:21
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| You should try to convince your friend to look into this, Sage. This is clearly a matter worthy of pursuit. |
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sfdragon
Great Reader
2285 Posts |
Posted - 11 May 2010 : 01:50:37
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I agree.
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why is being a wizard like being a drow? both are likely to find a dagger in the back from a rival or one looking to further his own goals, fame and power
My FR fan fiction
Magister's GAmbit
http://steelfiredragon.deviantart.com/gallery/33539234 |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36803 Posts |
Posted - 11 May 2010 : 04:24:15
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| One thing to keep in mind, though, is that sometimes, having the law on your side is not enough. A larger corporation can draw out a legal battle to the point that a smaller company or individual can no longer afford to fight -- and thus win that way, even when a straight-up hearing would have favored the smaller entity. |
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Candlekeep - The Library of Forgotten Realms Lore
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31772 Posts |
Posted - 11 May 2010 : 05:05:22
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| Really, I'm just curious about a few points re: this. I'm not looking to challenge anything... just an opportunity to clarify some aspects in legalese that I might be able to relate here. |
Candlekeep Forums Moderator
Candlekeep - The Library of Forgotten Realms Lore
http://www.candlekeep.com -- Candlekeep Forum Code of Conduct
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"So Saith Ed" -- the collected Candlekeep replies of Ed Greenwood
Zhoth'ilam Folio -- The Electronic Misadventures of a Rambling Sage |
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Jakk
Great Reader
Canada
2165 Posts |
Posted - 11 May 2010 : 05:51:44
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Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart
Well, after another go around with Customer Service I got a more definitive answer:
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Wizards of the Coast cannot provide assistance with or legal interpretations for questions related to the Game System License. The webpage containing the System Reference Document (SRD) also contains the Game System License FAQ, as well as other information regarding our licenses. If you require further assistance with something beyond what can be found on our website, we recommend you consult with a lawyer or other legal professional qualified to interpret such documents.
You must contact your own legal council regarding the use of any of our possible intellectual properties. We cannot give out advice or direction on how to proceed.
Wanna make another Compendium? Hire a lawyer!
I'm am going to go now. I feel much anger flowing and need to calm myself before I turn to the dark side.
Not surprising. If they don't tell us what we can or can't do, then they get to launch ambush lawsuits or force others to do their research for them (at the others' expense, of course). Just another reason why I think it should be illegal for the term "intellectual property" to be applicable to corporate entities; people have minds; corporations have boards of directors, and I won't comment on the presence of minds in such groups, as I don't have any empirical experience on which to base such comments. My refusal to comment is, then, purely in the interests of good science. |
Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.
If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic. |
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
2950 Posts |
Posted - 11 May 2010 : 09:44:23
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quote:
Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart
Well, after another go around with Customer Service I got a more definitive answer:
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Wizards of the Coast cannot provide assistance with or legal interpretations for questions related to the Game System License. The webpage containing the System Reference Document (SRD) also contains the Game System License FAQ, as well as other information regarding our licenses. If you require further assistance with something beyond what can be found on our website, we recommend you consult with a lawyer or other legal professional qualified to interpret such documents.
You must contact your own legal council regarding the use of any of our possible intellectual properties. We cannot give out advice or direction on how to proceed.
Wanna make another Compendium? Hire a lawyer!
I'm am going to go now. I feel much anger flowing and need to calm myself before I turn to the dark side.
Well at least that seems to confirm that a more detailed Fansite Policy is not in development at the moment. |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 11 May 2010 : 12:46:31
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| Do it Sage. As mentioned, not as an us vs them thing, but for clarification. This is the closest thing to progress we've had in this for quite a while now. |
Karsite Arcanar (Most Holy Servant of Karsus)
Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me:
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froglegg
Learned Scribe
317 Posts |
Posted - 15 May 2010 : 12:27:07
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Originally posted by Alisttair
Do it Sage. As mentioned, not as an us vs them thing, but for clarification. This is the closest thing to progress we've had in this for quite a while now.
+1 See what happens.
John |
Long live Alias and Dragonbait! Kate Novak and Jeff Grubb the Realms need you more then ever!
On my word as a sage nothing within these pages is false, but not all of it may prove to be true. - Elminster of Shadowdale
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
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Elfinblade
Senior Scribe
Norway
377 Posts |
Posted - 31 May 2010 : 21:57:57
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Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart
Jester on the WotC forums published a great blog entry on failure of WotC's Fansite Policy.
A very good and informative blog post indeed. |
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Ayunken-vanzan
Senior Scribe
Germany
657 Posts |
Posted - 31 May 2010 : 22:19:01
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| Yes, indeed, it is. And it is a very sad status in regard to the fansite policy or the SRD. |
"What mattered our lives now? When our world had been torn from us? Folk wept, or drank, or stood staring out over the land, wondering what new horror each dawn would bring."
Elender Stormfall of Suzail
"Anyone can kill deities, cause plagues, or destroy organizations. It takes real skill to make them live on."
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Jakk
Great Reader
Canada
2165 Posts |
Posted - 31 May 2010 : 23:56:36
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| The blog post was far more informative than the policy it describes, for sure... |
Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.
If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic. |
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What happened to Open ,Free and Spirited Debate?
