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JC Denton
Acolyte
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 Posted - 05 Mar 2010 : 13:25:21
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since Maztica is an America-"ripoff", potatoes should origin from there, right? I think tomatoes and maize are mentioned in the Campaign Setting, but this should work generally, not?
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 05 Mar 2010 : 14:51:02
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Originally posted by JC Denton
since Maztica is an America-"ripoff", potatoes should origin from there, right? I think tomatoes and maize are mentioned in the Campaign Setting, but this should work generally, not?
Actually, potatoes are grown in various places across the Realms -- such as Voonlar, and Cormyr for example. |
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 05 Mar 2010 : 16:14:56
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| Faerūn had potatoes years before anyone thought up Maztica. They're mentioned at least as far back as the 1987 boxed set and Spellfire. |
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JC Denton
Acolyte
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Posted - 10 Mar 2010 : 07:31:44
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ok, that's bad  (kinda)
and a related question: which measure of volume is used in the FR?
if it's some gallon, which one (meaning how much would it be in litres)
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 12 Mar 2010 : 20:17:23
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It's not bad, because the Realms isn't medieval Earth, which is part of why the Maztica thing is discordant.
Units of volume, weight and distance have never been laid out as time has. Pints, quarts and gallons are mentioned in some sources, but they may be 'we don't have space to get into the real situation' approximations/placeholders, as with references to hours. I doubt it's standardized; there's probably a forest of more-or-less agreed measures (handkeg, barrel, etc.) within individual trades in particular kingdoms or trade routes. |
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 12 Mar 2010 : 20:41:25
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Units of weights and measures appear USA standard, pound, quarts, etc. This likely because TSR started as a US company. Aurora's guide IIRC also use terms, of course FR might use Imperial standards of weights and measure as Ed Greenwood lives in Canada.
I have never seen metric units used at all. |
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Jakk
Great Reader
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Posted - 13 Mar 2010 : 19:05:26
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Re: Kentinal: Speaking as another Canadian (and a big RW proponent of the metric system), using metric units in fantasy just doesn't feel right to me. I suspect that Ed feels the same way. In my Realms I personally use UK rather than US gallons and other units of fluid volume; I don't recall whether this is specified anywhere for the Realms. Ed? THO? Anyone else in the know? Please clarify. Thanks!
Re: JC Denton: In my Realms, Maztica's people were completely wiped out by accidental biological warfare started with the arrival of the first ships from Amn. Then the Spellplague (as completely reimagined by me) repopulated the area with new species. I haven't done the detail work yet, as I'm just getting back into my Realms-reworking after a couple of months off to ponder the canonical direction of the Realms and how it will affect my Realms (which was already into the 1400s when the new campaign guide was published). I've kept Kara-Tur and Zakhara, largely because I'm a big fan of Oriental and Middle-Eastern mythoi, and partly because I believe a world can never have too many deities. Potatoes, tomatoes, maize, coffee, chocolate, and other RW New-World commodities have (AFAIK) always been available in Faerun, from long before the appearance of Maztica. |
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JC Denton
Acolyte
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Posted - 24 Mar 2010 : 10:47:17
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Originally posted by Jakk
Re: Kentinal: Speaking as another Canadian (and a big RW proponent of the metric system), using metric units in fantasy just doesn't feel right to me. I suspect that Ed feels the same way. In my Realms I personally use UK rather than US gallons and other units of fluid volume; I don't recall whether this is specified anywhere for the Realms. Ed? THO? Anyone else in the know? Please clarify. Thanks!
Re: JC Denton: In my Realms, Maztica's people were completely wiped out by accidental biological warfare started with the arrival of the first ships from Amn. Then the Spellplague (as completely reimagined by me) repopulated the area with new species. I haven't done the detail work yet, as I'm just getting back into my Realms-reworking after a couple of months off to ponder the canonical direction of the Realms and how it will affect my Realms (which was already into the 1400s when the new campaign guide was published). I've kept Kara-Tur and Zakhara, largely because I'm a big fan of Oriental and Middle-Eastern mythoi, and partly because I believe a world can never have too many deities. Potatoes, tomatoes, maize, coffee, chocolate, and other RW New-World commodities have (AFAIK) always been available in Faerun, from long before the appearance of Maztica.
at least coffee is specifically mentioned to be a new import product to Faerun in the 3rd edition CS, and well that's my primary canon so I'm gonna stick with it now  |
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Kyrene
Senior Scribe
South Africa
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Posted - 24 Mar 2010 : 12:21:24
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Originally posted by JC Denton
at least coffee is specifically mentioned to be a new import product to Faerun in the 3rd edition CS, and well that's my primary canon so I'm gonna stick with it now
That's not 100% accurate however.quote:
So saith Ed - March 6, 2005
Its major sources are south and east of Durpar, about halfway up the east side of Anauroch, and overseas to the west (Maztica).
Only one of the three major types of coffee comes from Maztica.quote:
Sacks of beans from overseas are brought in to Baldur's Gate and there trans-shipped elsewhere, mainly south to Calimshan and the Tashalar. These beans are large, soft (crumbly), and reddish-brown.
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