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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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 Posted - 07 Oct 2010 : 06:37:08
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Dracons
Simple question:
What's with all the thousands of NDA's?
There are thousands of mysteries, and when we ask, we get told nope, we can't tell you, ha ha.
Will they ever be revealed? Unlikely.
Ed Greenwood isn't exactly young, and he will die of age sometime. Then all those mysteriies answers will be losted.
Why must they exist? It never made sense to me, other then just money of course.
Does Ed even care? Or does he think it's just hilarious to keep so much from fans?
Okay, do you honestly think Ed would willingly hold back a single scrap of lore that people wanted to know? If so, you've badly misread him.
NDAs are imposed by companies, for a variety of reasons. As we've seen with TSR/WotC, this reason is often future plans/storylines. These plans often get changed, delayed, or dropped. Now, at that point, it would indeed be reasonable to drop the NDA. But there are reasons not to: leaving it in place means that those plans can be revisited or revised, or revived at a later date. And, as has been pointed out more than once, leaving an NDA in place is totally free. Lifting an NDA involves paperwork and contacting all the relevant parties and tossing some funding at the lawyers that make these things binding -- and all of that is for no return.
So WotC, and TSR before them, lose nothing by leaving an NDA in place. No one likes it, but that's the reality we have to deal with.
Indeed.
And just as a friendly Moderator warning... I really don't think we need to rally and rive about this sort of thing. Ed's discussed what little he can about how NDA's and his future Realmslore work relate to each other. And that should be the end of it.
Dracons, I appreciate your concern in this matter, but I'd prefer that such matters be left to official legal types. We're hardly in a position to justify how and why such NDA-related issues work the way they do with respect to Ed and his future developments. Let's look to the lore instead, eh?  |
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Dracons
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 07 Oct 2010 : 06:41:13
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| I know Sage. But the NDA is holding back lore. That's why I'm angry at it. Not just bits and pieces, but alot, and it appears that it will never be released. Why do they add more lore, adding more mysteries, and never solving what is already a mystery? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 07 Oct 2010 : 06:44:21
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Originally posted by Dracons
I know Sage. But the NDA is holding back lore. That's why I'm angry at it. Not just bits and pieces, but alot, and it appears that it will never be released. Why do they add more lore, adding more mysteries, and never solving what is already a mystery?
I'm not sure we'll ever really know.
For the most part, I take comfort in the fact that if and when Ed knows what he can do with such lore, he'll present it here when any lingering legalities have been satisfied.
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 07 Oct 2010 : 07:56:43
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Originally posted by Dracons
I know Sage. But the NDA is holding back lore. That's why I'm angry at it. Not just bits and pieces, but alot, and it appears that it will never be released. Why do they add more lore, adding more mysteries, and never solving what is already a mystery?
You proceed from a significant misconception which is that Ed and WotC are seeking to deny FR fans realmslore as some cruel and unusual punishment and enjoying themselves greatly while doing so. Nothing can be further from the truth.
As I've previously posted on this subject, Ed is clearly the "Keeper of NDAs", recalling what lore and information he has passed onto TSR/WotC for pay and whether they have used it or not. The fact that in many cases TSR/WotC have not seen fit to package up that lore into a product for the fans is a cause for regret but does not mean that Ed has to abandon his personal and professional standards and moral/legal/ethical obligations by deciding to ignore the wishes of WotC in this matter by passing on that information without their consent.
Of course, you might consider actually making an attempt to create realmslore of your own on these "mysterious" topics you mention, perhaps through a DDI submission. Who knows, your version might well be the one that WotC accepts as 'official' and you will have had a hand in removing an NDA, such as it is. Channel your frustration, don't expect everything to be handed to you on a lore-laden silver platter and write/create/post/muse on the Realms. You'll be happier for it and will also provide a positive benefit to the FR community at large.
As someone who's come up with bits of realmslore from time to time over the years, I can tell you there is no better feeling than creating realmslore to the approbation of your FR peers. Try it. It's fun.
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Snowblood
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 07 Oct 2010 : 13:44:42
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Deathspawned
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 07 Oct 2010 : 15:30:04
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As much as i hate to continue a "rant" topic i feel the need to say that if wizards went under and no one "bought out the lisence" that i seem to remember that the realms would go back to Ed(i would ALMOST think this a good thing)and it would be his again(if im wrong please correct me).Also if Ed had not agreed to some sort of terms with the companies he sold the realms to then NONE of us would now have anything to complain about as the realms would not exist as they are and might still be just Ed's personal playground.Personally i THANK Ed for sharing any of his realm with all of us as without it i would have to find other less satisfying worlds to enjoy.The sheer amount of lore this setting has is stagering compared to most i have seen and has brought to life a world unlike most in an amazing way that continues to blow me away.To end THANK YOU ED FOR THE REALMS and please continue with all the awsome work.
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 07 Oct 2010 : 17:08:00
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Thanks for the quickie, THO. 
Awaiting for Ed's 'full monty' answer.
And Dracons... <insert head-shaking smiley>
Krash (and others) have already provided an answer, but I feel a need to chime-in (sorry). You seem to think someone is spitefully keeping something from you, which is not at-all what is going on. Its easy to cast stones at WotC these days, but most of these NDA's go back to TSR, and are in-place to keep the setting coherent, not to hurt the fans in anyway.
Besides, if we knew all there was to know, what fun would these forums be?
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Lord of Bones
Seeker
United Kingdom
78 Posts |
Posted - 07 Oct 2010 : 17:55:37
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I have a new question, and one that may be slightly controversial.
I've recently been studying the civil conflicts in many African countries, and the use of child soldiers is something that is becoming increasingly prevalent. Or at least, it's becoming increasingly prevalent before the western news teams. Child soldiers have been a part of history for centuries, as conscripting a soldier as a child is almost a sure way of indoctrinating the soldier to fanatically follow the beliefs of the army.
My question though, is whether such practices are carried out in any parts of the Realms. Cormyr may well have its squires, and many young men and women go to join armies, but are there any nations that will forcibly conscript children, brainwash them, and then send them to fight their enemies? Thay and the Zhents seem likely for this, but even they seem to have some social mores that may preclude such activities.
Also, if it's very uncommon among human nations in the Realms, do any monstrous nations do this? We know the drow raise soldiers from birth, and no doubt so do orcs, but how about some of the smaller monstrous races?
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Ionik Knight
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 07 Oct 2010 : 18:44:43
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Originally posted by Lord of Bones
I have a new question, and one that may be slightly controversial.
I've recently been studying the civil conflicts in many African countries, and the use of child soldiers is something that is becoming increasingly prevalent. Or at least, it's becoming increasingly prevalent before the western news teams. Child soldiers have been a part of history for centuries, as conscripting a soldier as a child is almost a sure way of indoctrinating the soldier to fanatically follow the beliefs of the army.
My question though, is whether such practices are carried out in any parts of the Realms. Cormyr may well have its squires, and many young men and women go to join armies, but are there any nations that will forcibly conscript children, brainwash them, and then send them to fight their enemies? Thay and the Zhents seem likely for this, but even they seem to have some social mores that may preclude such activities.
Also, if it's very uncommon among human nations in the Realms, do any monstrous nations do this? We know the drow raise soldiers from birth, and no doubt so do orcs, but how about some of the smaller monstrous races?
Matthew
Lots of races have a warrior culture much the same as the orcs. Pretty much any of the barbarian tribes and most of the aggressive humanoid races would be comparable to the orcs in this way. A closer relation to the child soldiers would need to start with a warlord or tyrant type in charge of an oppressed or destitute people. For this the Zhents and Unther (before the death of Gilgeam) seem like logical choices. Sounds like a good motif for an evil wizard/lich too. Catch/buy a bunch of orc/hobgoblin kids and raise them as your personal bodyguards. |
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Menelvagor
Senior Scribe
Israel
352 Posts |
Posted - 07 Oct 2010 : 18:52:26
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Apropos of NDA's having been mentioned, I'll continue with my obsession:
Symrustar Auglamyr. I know her fate is under NDA. However, I was also told that there is a good chance those NDA's might yet lift. My question, therefore, is whether we will learn of Symrustar's fate in the new Elmister series Ed is currently writing, or at least (if I can't get a definitive answer) if there is a good chance of that happening. I'm sorry if I seem obsessed, but waiting for Elminster Must Die is driving me crazy.
Also, another question: Can we get more lore on Caerthynna of the Swirling Stones? According to Mintiper's Chapbook, she was a female moon elf of Eaerlanni ancestry, noted creator of ioun stones, and one of six tertiary casters who participated in the raising of Myth Glaurach’s mythal. But I haven't found anything else. |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
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Posted - 08 Oct 2010 : 16:53:07
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Hi again, all.
Menelvagor, re. this: "My question, therefore, is whether we will learn of Symrustar's fate in the new Elminster series Ed is currently writing, or at least (if I can't get a definitive answer) if there is a good chance of that happening. I'm sorry if I seem obsessed, but waiting for Elminster Must Die is driving me crazy."
Sigh. Your question (and others like it) is EXACTLY what any author currently writing for Wizards is not allowed to answer without editorial approval, which will almost always be denied for matters of this sort.
However, I will pass on as far as Ed hinted to me, when I contacted him last night (just after saying goodnight to Bob Salvatore, Bob's wife, and the Random House folks, outside the World's Biggest Bookstore in downtown Toronto, and heading back to his car to begin the long drive home):
I can't recall having written anything much about Symrustar for publication recently.
I've known what I think happened to her in her later life for quite a while now, but publishing lore about such matters hasn't been solely "up to me" for about twenty-five years now.
Please tell him sorry that I can't be clearer - - oh, and please Dracons that I'd LOVE to tell all, about EVERYTHING to do with the Realms, but publishing just doesn't work that way unless I happened to be an infinitely-rich publisher with rights to publish the Realms. Which I'm not, never have been, and would probably fail miserably at being. And without a publisher, the Realms would be known just to me, a handful of friends, and those gamers who sat down to play with me. My good friend George Krashos, a superb crafter of Realmslore, put it very well - - and if you don't feel comfortable crafting your own Realmslore, part of the game at Candlekeep is posing lore QUESTIONS adroitly enough that I can answer them without offending against NDAs. So, have at it!
There. So saith Ed. Who toddled happily off home to plunge back into writing a Realms novel and preparing for Canadian Thanksgiving.
Which for most of us means: family gathering and WAY too much to eat.
Turkey often features prominently, and there tends to be sports on television and much laughter, gossip, and lying around. Plus, in MY house, gaming. 
love to all,
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createvmind
Senior Scribe
490 Posts |
Posted - 08 Oct 2010 : 17:30:18
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Is a god always omnipotent in regards to their portfolio even if a god from another plane is considerably more powerful for whatever reason? Mystra had placed an edict on spell levels and time travel, could another deity of magic bypass these barriers via a vessel or artifact to overwhelm these bans she has or is she the final say regardless of power of other deity?
Would Ao intervene or let things play out if "balance" wasn't overly upset by this? |
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Rhewtani
Senior Scribe
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508 Posts |
Posted - 08 Oct 2010 : 19:51:42
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althen artren
Senior Scribe
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780 Posts |
Posted - 09 Oct 2010 : 02:29:01
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And just to add fuel to the fire,
the Man is a very sly one. I believe that Ed
has a plan to get things revealed when he passes on.
(sorry to be morbid) Just my impression from
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 09 Oct 2010 : 02:53:12
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| Side discussions do not belong in this scroll. It also needs another reset. At least in my opinion concerning the side discussions. |
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Dracons
Learned Scribe
USA
299 Posts |
Posted - 09 Oct 2010 : 02:57:40
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Originally posted by althen artren
And just to add fuel to the fire,
the Man is a very sly one. I believe that Ed
has a plan to get things revealed when he passes on.
(sorry to be morbid) Just my impression from
his words over the years. Take it as u will.
Doubtful. He has no power. If anything, Wizards will take the chance to gloat that they will now never reveal anything more, nor accept any more lore and that's all there is. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 09 Oct 2010 : 03:36:40
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Originally posted by Kentinal
Side discussions do not belong in this scroll.
I'm inclined to agree.
I've been kind of lax in maintaining the "on-topic" nature of this scroll. So, folks, I'm going to kindly remind you all that the recent bout of side-discussions have to stop. It's simply taking me too much time to filter through all the non-Ed material when I'm compiling his replies.
Thus, if you wish to discuss something further that doesn't immediately pertain to Ed-lore, or to this scroll in general, feel free to open a scroll on another shelf here at Candlekeep.
Thank you. |
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Menelvagor
Senior Scribe
Israel
352 Posts |
Posted - 09 Oct 2010 : 18:36:20
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Originally posted by The Hooded One:
Sigh. Your question (and others like it) is EXACTLY what any author currently writing for Wizards is not allowed to answer without editorial approval, which will almost always be denied for matters of this sort.
I can't recall having written anything much about Symrustar for publication recently.
I've known what I think happened to her in her later life for quite a while now, but publishing lore about such matters hasn't been solely "up to me" for about twenty-five years now.
Hmmm... I actually was rather certain this would be the answer, but was willing to gamble on the 10% of uncertainty... too bad. Sad to know that nothing's been written on Symrustar lately, but I'll take comfort in knowing that that doesn't mean that nothing will happen in the future, and from a tiny possible hint - he said "in her later life" - which makes me believe she's still alive, and not dead.
Actually, according to waht you told Dracons about posing adroit questions, let me try my hand: Does "in her later life" apply to before the Battle of Shadusk Glade or after?
Also, does this answer also apply to my question about Caerthynna? Or (much more likely) Ed's busy with other important stuff, family and holiday cheer? |
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Behold, he put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly.
How much less them that dwell in houses of clay, whose foundation in the dust, are crushed before the moth?" - Eliphaz the Temanite, Job IV, 17-19.
"Yea, though he live a thousand years twice, yet hath he seen no good: do not all go to one place?" - Ecclesiastes VI, 6.
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Blueblade
Senior Scribe
USA
804 Posts |
Posted - 09 Oct 2010 : 21:40:35
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So, Ed:
Did Mr. Salvatore spill anything about his next book? I've been hearing rumors of "Neverwinter Wood" being the title or working title...but anything more?
And do you coordinate things, these days, when both of you are writing Realms novels at the same time?
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jimbo32
Acolyte
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Posted - 10 Oct 2010 : 07:37:13
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Hi Ed and THO,
A couple of questions:
First, is there anything more you can tell us about the Seven of Silver? History, composition, whatever - anything would be great. I wouldn't say no to the words for "Seven Silvers Falling" either - if such a thing exists. :) I've always thought that their sacrifice was one of the more heroic from the Fall - despite the fact that the number of lives saved wasn't terribly high. (This is assuming that the Seven are your creation - I can't recall where they [and the ballad] were originally referenced).
Second, I recently noticed an unanswered question from a few years ago that may have gotten lost in the shuffle. Regarding your excellent and touching "First Quest" article from Dragon #218 - are there any Realms NPC's based on or inspired by your first DM? Also, judging by the article, September had a serious impact on both your life and your view of RPG's. Do you think the Realms would be much different without her influence?
Thanks in advance :)
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Lord of Bones
Seeker
United Kingdom
78 Posts |
Posted - 10 Oct 2010 : 09:59:18
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Hi again!
This time my question concerns Flamsterd, the mage who set up a tower in the Moonshaes and then decided to sink it, along with part of his island, to the bottom of the sea so he could study in peace surrounded in a giant bubble of air.
I wanted to know if there's any additional lore on Flamsterd and his relationship with Elminster, and whether he got up to anything above the surface, post his descent beneath the waves.
Thanking you
Matthew |
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crazedventurers
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10 Oct 2010 : 14:18:31
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Originally posted by Lord of Bones
This time my question concerns Flamsterd, the mage who set up a tower in the Moonshaes and then decided to sink it, along with part of his island, to the bottom of the sea so he could study in peace surrounded in a giant bubble of air.
Great post Matthew, I too would like to hear more about Flamsterd. Especially what he was doing post 299DR (from the Brian James' Moonshae timeline) until we hear about him in the Moonshae books a thousand years later. The mystery of where he came from would be interesting to know as well,(Netherese perhaps?)
There is a post by Ed here that answers a little more about him
http://oracle.wizards.com/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind0507a&L=realms-l&P=2086
Cheers
Damian |
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Gods, all this writing and he's running a constant fantasy version of Coronation Street in his head, too. .
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love to all,
THO
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
Poland
1190 Posts |
Posted - 10 Oct 2010 : 15:21:56
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I just remembered - Mr. Greenwood, your article on Llurth Dreier is just brilliant!
So here come two further questions inspired by it:
1. Is anything more known about lithidrow and dark skum? I'm thinking of making a 3.5 conversion of these creatures, they sound lovely.
2. What is known about Telantiwar? How many drow inhabited it? Who ruled etc? We all know where it was and when it fell, but not much more.
Thanks in advance for your reply.
Zireael
EDIT: Anything known on Nathglaryst of Undraeth except from the bits here? |
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GazzaM
Acolyte
Australia
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Posted - 10 Oct 2010 : 22:59:48
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 10 Oct 2010 : 23:25:33
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I'm pretty sure Eric Boyd wrote the Llurth Dreier article for Polyhedron. His "take" on the place was subsequently tweaked by Rich Baker in the 3E 'Underdark' sourcebook.
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 10 Oct 2010 : 23:34:30
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Could Elminster be Flamsterd?
Not near sources so I'm not sure how viable that theory might be. The time-frame seems about right, though. |
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Merrith
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Posted - 11 Oct 2010 : 02:23:52
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quote:
Originally posted by Markustay
Could Elminster be Flamsterd?
Not near sources so I'm not sure how viable that theory might be. The time-frame seems about right, though.
We know Khelben had many other identities throughout his life, would it be so far of a stretch to think Elminster might have many unknown ones as well? After all he and his "daughters" took the shapes/identities of many actual people over the years, why not invent a few for himself to be as well. Perhaps some possible identities could clear up quite a few conundrums and holes in existing lore. |
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
Poland
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Posted - 11 Oct 2010 : 10:36:46
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quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos
I'm pretty sure Eric Boyd wrote the Llurth Dreier article for Polyhedron. His "take" on the place was subsequently tweaked by Rich Baker in the 3E 'Underdark' sourcebook.
-- George Krashos
Eric not Ed? I was sure it was the former... Never mind, I can ask Eric too... |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 11 Oct 2010 : 17:27:53
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It has been alluded to many times by Ed that Elminster is at least one other character we know, and he has taken many identities over the years, some of them recurring.
He started out a Rogue, after all. |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 11 Oct 2010 : 18:57:07
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quote:
Originally posted by Markustay
It has been alluded to many times by Ed that Elminster is at least one other character we know, and he has taken many identities over the years, some of them recurring.
He started out a Rogue, after all.
AFAIK, he started out a Fighter, then went to Rogue. |
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