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Arteris
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Posted - 28 Sep 2003 :  05:02:13  Show Profile  Visit Arteris's Homepage Send Arteris a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hear hear!!
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The Cardinal
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Posted - 28 Sep 2003 :  13:26:11  Show Profile  Visit The Cardinal's Homepage Send The Cardinal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Once again the test is taken... Actually read ALL the answers this time and the results are in!.....
Once again Lawful Evil.... Bordering on Chaotic Evil...
But there was a change... I am human no longer... but a Half-orc mage/cleric? Can such a thing even exist?
But That is not my point, Simply that Lawful Evil is the ONLY way to go... Power, protection, and Bureaucracy... So if elected I will have all these things, so.... Vote Deimos!


It has to be Certain, the Gods Hate Me. For whatever irrevokable Fate, I have been made the walking Joke. Either that, or Beshaba is overlyfond Of Me.
-Unknown

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Cyric
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Posted - 30 Sep 2003 :  20:29:44  Show Profile  Visit Cyric's Homepage Send Cyric a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You have my vote Deimos and by the way what is good with out evil.
And evil has always more power, Half-orc mage/cleric how can one get souch a thing i took the test some times but i always got human. Power, protection, and Bureaucracy... who can resist
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William of Waterdeep
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Posted - 30 Sep 2003 :  20:47:31  Show Profile  Visit William of Waterdeep's Homepage Send William of Waterdeep a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Its a game but its easier for me to play closer to my
true alignment which is in the good range.I have trouble with evil
but Yes,In real live I might gut the thief instead of cutting a hand
off.It all depends on how much resistance they offered.I don't think
that Paladins are panseys but I also admit that I have trouble playing
one because I tend to take matters into my on hands.

Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.



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zhentar reborn
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Posted - 01 Oct 2003 :  05:16:32  Show Profile  Visit zhentar reborn's Homepage Send zhentar reborn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Lawful Neutral. The best of both worlds when you live around the Moonsea. I can hunt down and hang meddling Harpers as quick as I can catch them with no alignment conflict. Or I can wipe out whole tribes of evil goblinoids, again no conflict. Both are accepted patterns of behavior around the shores of the Moonsea. It's a frontier for goodness sakes!

I hate to paraphrase Obi-wan Kenobi, but it is just a question of point of view!

When I am a DM Lawful Evil is my favorite for villians.

Think what you've always thought, and you'll be what you've always been.

Edited by - zhentar reborn on 01 Oct 2003 05:18:01
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Jander Sunstar
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Posted - 01 Oct 2003 :  16:57:34  Show Profile  Visit Jander Sunstar's Homepage Send Jander Sunstar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
like to play chaotic specially a sarcastic psycho who does everything to gain power and forced respect but indeed being aa extreme evil needs to be very courageous and man must not affraid of death. everyone has evil intentions, can cheat on my girlfriend and lie her without any second thought but can't kill a man not beause of concscient but love of freedom can't go to jail. f you have guts or roll your abilities again no problem, it is fun to be evil

Punish me if you will, for my hands are not clean. But deny me not my revenge!"
-Jander Sunstar
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Arteris
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Posted - 02 Oct 2003 :  02:59:53  Show Profile  Visit Arteris's Homepage Send Arteris a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Untill I gut your bragerty (I know I spelled that wrong) chaotic evil guy with my long sword only to follow with a dagger to the neck :oP j/k chaotic evil is actually kinda fun to play but.. Pillaging looting and destroying gets boring after a while, same for being the drunken brave and mean bully who rushes into battle only to have his head handed to him.
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Jander Sunstar
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Posted - 02 Oct 2003 :  10:15:17  Show Profile  Visit Jander Sunstar's Homepage Send Jander Sunstar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
a chaotic evil barbarian/sorcerer is quite amusing and self satisfying for me you can do anything evil not just looting and pillaging you can play a role in great political itrigues. you can manipulate your tribe do anything for more power. a harbinger of doom, an instrument of inevitable death, a lord of destruction and chaos to burn everything till all pathatic civilizations of toril turn to ash and reign of absolute fear come.
Hail and Kill!

Punish me if you will, for my hands are not clean. But deny me not my revenge!"
-Jander Sunstar
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Lina
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Posted - 02 Oct 2003 :  14:32:33  Show Profile  Visit Lina's Homepage Send Lina a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well I know myself to be a kind and good-hearted person, but when I choose a character I like it to be slightly different than what I am in reality. I'm generally somewhere between neutral and good, but more towards neutral so at this moment it's TBA.

“Darkness beyond twilight, crimson beyond blood that flows! Buried in the flow of time. In thy great name. I pledge myself to darkness. All the fools who stand in our way shall be destroyed…by the power you and I possess! DRAGON SLAVE!!!”

"Thieves? Ah, such an ugly word... look upon them as the most honest sort of merchant."
-Oglar the Thieflord
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William of Waterdeep
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Posted - 03 Oct 2003 :  03:11:11  Show Profile  Visit William of Waterdeep's Homepage Send William of Waterdeep a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lina

Well I know myself to be a kind and good-hearted person, but when I choose a character I like it to be slightly different than what I am in reality. I'm generally somewhere between neutral and good, but more towards neutral so at this moment it's TBA.




Lina,did you take the test at the link on the first page?Its on the
second post I think.Take it several times.

Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.



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Lina
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Posted - 04 Oct 2003 :  12:08:55  Show Profile  Visit Lina's Homepage Send Lina a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I did the test and I'm a lawful neutral mage.
See I know myself better than you think.

“Darkness beyond twilight, crimson beyond blood that flows! Buried in the flow of time. In thy great name. I pledge myself to darkness. All the fools who stand in our way shall be destroyed…by the power you and I possess! DRAGON SLAVE!!!”

"Thieves? Ah, such an ugly word... look upon them as the most honest sort of merchant."
-Oglar the Thieflord
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William of Waterdeep
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Posted - 04 Oct 2003 :  18:12:00  Show Profile  Visit William of Waterdeep's Homepage Send William of Waterdeep a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lina

I did the test and I'm a lawful neutral mage.
See I know myself better than you think.



I never doubted you!!! But it had to be official you understand.
What race,class and who is your Deity? this is not as important but I
am curious.
It should give you all the info.at the same link, there is also an old
and new test.try both and look at the difference.

Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.




Edited by - William of Waterdeep on 04 Oct 2003 18:13:23
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William of Waterdeep
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Posted - 04 Oct 2003 :  19:10:54  Show Profile  Visit William of Waterdeep's Homepage Send William of Waterdeep a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sorry Lina,Different thread (on race,class,etc.)..> http://www.candlekeep.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1248

Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.



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Jander Sunstar
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Posted - 04 Oct 2003 :  23:39:32  Show Profile  Visit Jander Sunstar's Homepage Send Jander Sunstar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
that dont work man in neppyman test am talos worshiper half orc ranger in every way and it is very ridiculous for me. believe no one want to be like that. it is like looking to the mirror and seeing yourself copletely changed and ugly. wouldnt complain if was a chaotic good elven ranger to be honest

Punish me if you will, for my hands are not clean. But deny me not my revenge!"
-Jander Sunstar
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William of Waterdeep
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Posted - 05 Oct 2003 :  05:15:37  Show Profile  Visit William of Waterdeep's Homepage Send William of Waterdeep a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jander Sunstar

that dont work man in neppyman test am talos worshiper half orc ranger in every way and it is very ridiculous for me. believe no one want to be like that. it is like looking to the mirror and seeing yourself copletely changed and ugly. wouldnt complain if was a chaotic good elven ranger to be honest





What does stand for???? Is it the same as (I)?

Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.



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Feanor_Karnil
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Posted - 05 Oct 2003 :  23:44:11  Show Profile  Visit Feanor_Karnil's Homepage Send Feanor_Karnil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Apparently I am a Lawful Evil mage. Though I favor myself as a Lawful Neutral spellsword.

We live in a bleak world my friend, where heroes are few and shadows stalk us around every corner.
-Mikai Daerni
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The Cardinal
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Canada
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Posted - 06 Oct 2003 :  00:20:29  Show Profile  Visit The Cardinal's Homepage Send The Cardinal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I rather like the Idea of A half-orc mage/cleric or half-orc Mage/fighter ( Their both about 4/4 out of the eight times I have taken the test last and changed few answers here and there). Besides half-orcs that aren't brainless make for better role play.. and for me the play's the thing... everything else secondary as long as I can have a heck of a time while trying... ( and... usually getting as close to dying by sheer quirk of fate as possible). On the up note... a Half-orc with good hygiene means that that dazzling smile is only increased by the dazzling tusks... you'd be surprized how many people would... umm donate money when they see such a beautiful smile...
BUT: Actually that is how I feel. I do look in the mirror and see an ugly face. Such is life. I may look ugly ( or atleast on lower end of the beautification spectrum), I have the most beautiful and luxurious hair anywhere!!!! I know I'm bragging but hey, It be the one thing I like ( and more than one girl I know has threatened to cut it off or to kill me if I did). May look like a half-orc ( more or less) but have a beatiful head of hair, and that is better than anything in the world!.... Heaven forbid I go bald....


It has to be Certain, the Gods Hate Me. For whatever irrevokable Fate, I have been made the walking Joke. Either that, or Beshaba is overlyfond Of Me.
-Unknown

Edited by - The Cardinal on 06 Oct 2003 00:50:59
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Jander Sunstar
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Posted - 06 Oct 2003 :  00:43:59  Show Profile  Visit Jander Sunstar's Homepage Send Jander Sunstar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by William of Waterdeep

quote:
Originally posted by Jander Sunstar

that dont work man in neppyman test am talos worshiper half orc ranger in every way and it is very ridiculous for me. believe no one want to be like that. it is like looking to the mirror and seeing yourself copletely changed and ugly. wouldnt complain if was a chaotic good elven ranger to be honest





What does stand for???? Is it the same as (I)?



suppose but the tests are fun anyway. Dungeons and Dragons Alignment Test by Ron Pearsall is the best to fit. because am chaotic good as am and everyone in my family is lawful neutral as they are and my girl friend is neural evil as when she is with me


Punish me if you will, for my hands are not clean. But deny me not my revenge!"
-Jander Sunstar
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Jander Sunstar
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Posted - 06 Oct 2003 :  00:45:12  Show Profile  Visit Jander Sunstar's Homepage Send Jander Sunstar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by William of Waterdeep

quote:
Originally posted by Jander Sunstar

that dont work man in neppyman test am talos worshiper half orc ranger in every way and it is very ridiculous for me. believe no one want to be like that. it is like looking to the mirror and seeing yourself copletely changed and ugly. wouldnt complain if was a chaotic good elven ranger to be honest





What does stand for???? Is it the same as (I)?



suppose but the tests are fun anyway. But Dungeons and Dragons Alignment Test by Ron Pearsall is the best to fit. because am chaotic good as am and everyone in my family is lawful neutral as they are and my girl friend is neural evil as when she is with me


Punish me if you will, for my hands are not clean. But deny me not my revenge!"
-Jander Sunstar
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Jander Sunstar
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Posted - 06 Oct 2003 :  00:53:53  Show Profile  Visit Jander Sunstar's Homepage Send Jander Sunstar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
For me Deimos, half orcs can be quite intelegent at least they have a potential. Like General Vrokk in prince of lies (did i remember right). but they are ugly in anyway. Maybe a powerful spell can make them less misrable. but there is no problem for them right? they can rape people any time they like. but dont think think they can use their charm to gather information
But anyway seing a swashbuckler half orc bending his rapier is very funny. man can not take this kin of threat seriously

Punish me if you will, for my hands are not clean. But deny me not my revenge!"
-Jander Sunstar
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William of Waterdeep
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Posted - 06 Oct 2003 :  01:57:02  Show Profile  Visit William of Waterdeep's Homepage Send William of Waterdeep a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cardinal Deimos

I rather like the Idea of A half-orc mage/cleric or half-orc Mage/fighter ( Their both about 4/4 out of the eight times I have taken the test last and changed few answers here and there). Besides half-orcs that aren't brainless make for better role play.. and for me the play's the thing... everything else secondary as long as I can have a heck of a time while trying... ( and... usually getting as close to dying by sheer quirk of fate as possible). On the up note... a Half-orc with good hygiene means that that dazzling smile is only increased by the dazzling tusks... you'd be surprized how many people would... umm donate money when they see such a beautiful smile...
BUT: Actually that is how I feel. I do look in the mirror and see an ugly face. Such is life. I may look ugly ( or atleast on lower end of the beautification spectrum), I have the most beautiful and luxurious hair anywhere!!!! I know I'm bragging but hey, It be the one thing I like ( and more than one girl I know has threatened to cut it off or to kill me if I did). May look like a half-orc ( more or less) but have a beatiful head of hair, and that is better than anything in the world!.... Heaven forbid I go bald....





If,I had the tusks I would look just like a Half/orc.Got the body and
brains to match.I like playing dwarves but way too tall I'm real life.
Thats also why I favor war hammers and axes.I have used mauls and axes
quite a bit for bursting wood so I am quite comfortable with them.
Could have the beard easy if I wanted,but I don't care for them.The bald part.Thats me.I keep my head shaved.Why not,very little to have
to shave and I like it that way.I know what your thinking,but there is no such race/class as a hillbilly redneck in AD&D.

Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.



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The Cardinal
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Posted - 06 Oct 2003 :  02:32:21  Show Profile  Visit The Cardinal's Homepage Send The Cardinal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Actually Charisma is a bit overlooked by most I think. I tend to with they had a separate scale for Looks and Force of personallity, rather than just a generalized Charisma score. not that I want to go messing up a good system... Just gotta make the note of it in my character's history. Too many pretty boy and pretty girl heroes running around. ( I think), which is why I like ummm Zinafien... hold on a tick.... jeez way off Zammzt, a rather unattractive looking dark elf male who was in Book II of the War of the Spider Queen: Insurrection.
Can't wait till they're all out .. but then the series would be done..


It has to be Certain, the Gods Hate Me. For whatever irrevokable Fate, I have been made the walking Joke. Either that, or Beshaba is overlyfond Of Me.
-Unknown

Edited by - The Cardinal on 06 Oct 2003 02:37:15
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William of Waterdeep
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Posted - 06 Oct 2003 :  23:41:25  Show Profile  Visit William of Waterdeep's Homepage Send William of Waterdeep a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well looks can't be the only factor in Charisma.Since I have described
myself you now know I'm ugly,and rough looking but my personality has
always won me friends;Not everyone,because some people judge you only by apperance,but those that will get to know me see me differently.
I think it should be the same in AD&D.Just because I'm a big ugly half-Orc doesn't mean I am without some charm,wit or brains.True
they are known for high Str.& Con. stats and lower Cha.& Int.

Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.



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Jander Sunstar
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Posted - 07 Oct 2003 :  10:35:50  Show Profile  Visit Jander Sunstar's Homepage Send Jander Sunstar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
yes agree charisma is an inner thing, ability to attract people and leader them is a sign of charisma. even very beautiful people can lack charisma. a scar an the face destroys the beauty of the face but doesn't effect your ability to lead the flock. even though both attracting and leading people are also a result of intelgence, wisdom and reputation. ain't right?

Punish me if you will, for my hands are not clean. But deny me not my revenge!"
-Jander Sunstar
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William of Waterdeep
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Posted - 08 Oct 2003 :  01:37:22  Show Profile  Visit William of Waterdeep's Homepage Send William of Waterdeep a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Some people still think of charisma as mostly outer beauty.The physical attraction thing.I know we all turn our heads and notice it even if just a quick glance.That is not all of what makes up charisma
though.It can greatly enhance a characters charisma if they are drop
dead gorgeous or handsome but looks alone isn't enough.

Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.



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Lina
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Posted - 10 Oct 2003 :  12:20:44  Show Profile  Visit Lina's Homepage Send Lina a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by William of Waterdeep

quote:
Originally posted by Lina

I did the test and I'm a lawful neutral mage.
See I know myself better than you think.



I never doubted you!!! But it had to be official you understand.
What race,class and who is your Deity? this is not as important but I
am curious.
It should give you all the info.at the same link, there is also an old
and new test.try both and look at the difference.

Race - half human half drow
Class - fighter/sorcerer
Deity - TBA

“Darkness beyond twilight, crimson beyond blood that flows! Buried in the flow of time. In thy great name. I pledge myself to darkness. All the fools who stand in our way shall be destroyed…by the power you and I possess! DRAGON SLAVE!!!”

"Thieves? Ah, such an ugly word... look upon them as the most honest sort of merchant."
-Oglar the Thieflord
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Jander Sunstar
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Posted - 10 Oct 2003 :  23:54:38  Show Profile  Visit Jander Sunstar's Homepage Send Jander Sunstar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What is a half drow? How can it( it is it,I hate drows) be?

Punish me if you will, for my hands are not clean. But deny me not my revenge!"
-Jander Sunstar
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William of Waterdeep
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Posted - 11 Oct 2003 :  02:10:14  Show Profile  Visit William of Waterdeep's Homepage Send William of Waterdeep a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Very good Lina. I happen to like drow, that aren't evil of course.
Did you ever play any of the FR pc games? The reason I ask is that you are using the pic of Viconia as your avatar,she is a female drow
cleric in Baldur's gate 1 & 2.She was very powerful with her spells.
I always carried her along although it caused some problems with our
alignments clashing.I know its just a game but I felt she was just misunderstood and her bark worse than her bite.

Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.



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Lina
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Posted - 12 Oct 2003 :  04:40:55  Show Profile  Visit Lina's Homepage Send Lina a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by William of Waterdeep

Very good Lina. I happen to like drow, that aren't evil of course.
Did you ever play any of the FR pc games? The reason I ask is that you are using the pic of Viconia as your avatar,she is a female drow
cleric in Baldur's gate 1 & 2.She was very powerful with her spells.
I always carried her along although it caused some problems with our
alignments clashing.I know its just a game but I felt she was just misunderstood and her bark worse than her bite.


Yes I played Baulder's Gate 1 and NWN although it didn't run too good on my computer at the time. Cause of it I didn't actually get to finish NWN.
I like drow, intelligent, dark and mysterious, kinda like me.

Jander if half elves exists why not half drow?? Drows are infact a subrace of elves who have limited contact with the outside world.

“Darkness beyond twilight, crimson beyond blood that flows! Buried in the flow of time. In thy great name. I pledge myself to darkness. All the fools who stand in our way shall be destroyed…by the power you and I possess! DRAGON SLAVE!!!”

"Thieves? Ah, such an ugly word... look upon them as the most honest sort of merchant."
-Oglar the Thieflord
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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 12 Oct 2003 :  05:06:45  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Half-drow are usually killed at birth. If they're born in the Underdark, the drow usually kill them because of a desire to retain racial purity; after all, anything other than 'drow' is automatically inferior. On the surface, they're usually killed out of a fear that the child will be as evil as the father. (I say father because on the surface, they're usually the result of the rape of a human woman during a raid.)

Even when the drow parent is peaceful, such a pairing isn't as likely as a human and another elven subrace. First, such a drow would be rare. Second, most people wouldn't get pass the outer appearance. To the people of the surface, the face of a drow is like what seeing a person with red skin and horns would be to people of medieval Europe. Evil incarnate. And if they say they're 'good' . . . well, would you believe it on their say-so?

Then there's the biological standpoint. Most half-elves are the result of a male elf and a female human, since human females are more fertile than elves. Drow society tends more to females being the more populous. Most of the drow followers of Eilestree, the largest group of non-evil drow in the Realms, are also female.

Those're my thoughts on it . . . .

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