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Squifurgie
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Posted - 16 Oct 2009 :  01:08:32  Show Profile Send Squifurgie a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
I have read all the Drizzt books and the Sellswords trilogy as well as the Starlight and Shadows trilogy

I am looking to delve a little deeper

I own The Cleric Quintet series though I haven't read it yet.I just ordered the War Of The Spider Queen set so as you can see I like the drow.

so here are some things that intrigue me

-I am definitely interested in the Elminster series so any opinions on that would be great because I don't know much out side of the series I have read.

-Khelben is another character that interests me

- I am interested to read something involving the Svirfneblin (deep gnomes) and/or the Duergar (grey dwarves) in a significant way

-any other stories about the drow, I am always interested in the drow

-I am also interested to read more stories about the Bloodstone Lands, Citadel Felbar, Citadel Adbar, Sundabar, and Silverymoon

-I am also interested to read some stories in which dwarves (not grey dwarves) are the villains

-also, I would like to know if any of Salvatore's or Cunningham's characters have made appearances or been mentioned in other Forgotten Realms novels, Alustriel appears in Salvatore's books on a few occassions so I am wondering if vice versa has happened with Salvatore's and Cunningham's characters.



The Hooded One
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Posted - 16 Oct 2009 :  03:00:06  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Of the current crop of "new" Realms books, DOWNSHADOW and CITY OF THE DEAD are both very good reads; if you like them, seek out the earlier-published (not prequels) books by the same authors (Erik Scott de Bie and Rosemary Jones, respectively).

The Elminster series is Ed's "main" Realms series; some dislike his writing style and others are fans of it, but Ed is the creator of the Realms and THE source of its Realmslore. Very briefly, the series is as follows:
ELMINSTER, THE MAKING OF A MAGE: tells of the youth of Elminster, over a thousand years before the Spellplague.
ELMINSTER IN MYTH DRANNOR begins right where MAKING OF A MAGE leaves off, as the young Elminster travels to the then-thriving elven city.
THE TEMPTATION OF ELMINSTER takes place about five hundred years later.
These three books were recently "sent out of print" and replaced by THE ANNOTATED ELMINSTER collection, that contains them all (plus Ed's notes and illustrations). It, too, has JUST gone out of print.
ELMINSTER IN HELL takes place much more recently, not long before the Spellplague, and the title tells you exactly what the story is about.
ELMINSTER'S DAUGHTER takes place a year or so after EL IN HELL, and takes place in Cormyr.
The next book probably won't be published until around GenCon (August) 2010, is entitled ELMINSTER MUST DIE, and that's about all that's officially known about it. From some hints Ed's let drop, at least part of it probably takes place after the Spellplague.
Khelben 'Blackstaff' Arunsun, one of Ed's creations, is seen briefly in Ed's Knights of Myth Drannor trilogy, but features in two books by longtime Realms helmsman Steven Schend: BLACKSTAFF and BLACKSTAFF TOWER (both mass market paperbacks, the first one part of the Wizards four-book set of standalone books, and the second one part of the "Ed Greenwood Presents Waterdeep" post-Spellplague series.
Ed created Alustriel and Elaith Craulnobur/Craulnober (who features so vividly in Elaine's books, and also appears in the novel Ed and Elaine wrote together, CITY OF SPLENDORS [not to be confused with a game sourcebook and an older game boxed set, both of the same name], and in Ed's SILVERFALL Seven Sisters novel), and Ed's cast of supporting characters wend their ways throughout many Realms books by many authors. Bob's and Elaine's characters, not so much (though Steven Schend has used Danilo Thann).
Hope this helps as a 'starter guide' to answering some of your questions; I must leave my keyboard now to deal with a real-life matter. Darned scramble phones . . .
love,
THO
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Sandro
Learned Scribe

New Zealand
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Posted - 16 Oct 2009 :  10:16:02  Show Profile Send Sandro a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wow -- not a lot I can add to that post by THO, but having been in a very similar situation to you I do have a few thoughts.

quote:
-I am definitely interested in the Elminster series so any opinions on that would be great because I don't know much out side of the series I have read.

This was the first series not by RAS that I read (excluding the excellent Moonshae trilogy, which I read well before I got into the Realms), and found them to be great reads. Ed's style is very different from RAS's, and it will take a little while to get used to it, but once you do you will (or at least I did) greatly enjoy the amount of detail he squeezes into everything.

quote:
-Khelben is another character that interests me

While I can't say anything about Blackstaff Tower (I don't own it), I will tell you that I am currently reading Blackstaff and am greatly enjoying it. I find Steven Schend's style to be rather similar to Ed's -- and, considering how much Steven's added to the Realms, that's definitely not a bad thing. Definitely something I'd recommend.

And, if I may add, I'd also recommend The Avatar Series, though it will be hard to find outside of used book stores and the like. Dealing with the Time of Troubles, it's a great introduction to many of the gods, and, especially the last two, introduction to how the gods work in the Realms. If you can find it, it's a very good read, in my opinion, of course.

"Gods, little fishes, and spells to turn the one to the other," Mordenkainen sighed. "It's started already..."
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 16 Oct 2009 :  14:16:12  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Though we never quite reached a consensus, this is a topic that was discussed at length in the Experienced help for recommending FR Novels thread. Perusing that scroll may be helpful for you.

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ElaineCunningham
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Posted - 16 Oct 2009 :  14:31:32  Show Profile  Visit ElaineCunningham's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One Bob's and Elaine's characters, not so much (though Steven Schend has used Danilo Thann).



Really? Where?
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Kajehase
Great Reader

Sweden
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Posted - 16 Oct 2009 :  15:49:10  Show Profile Send Kajehase a Private Message  Reply with Quote
He makes a brief appearance in Blackstaff, I think.

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Alisttair
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Posted - 16 Oct 2009 :  16:18:00  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage Send Alisttair a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The various Erevis Cale novels are of a very high quality and I highly recommend those.

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The Sage
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Posted - 16 Oct 2009 :  16:19:51  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes, 'twas Blackstaff. One of my favourite parts of the novel, in fact.

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Hawkins
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Posted - 16 Oct 2009 :  20:39:46  Show Profile  Visit Hawkins's Homepage Send Hawkins a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair

The various Erevis Cale novels are of a very high quality and I highly recommend those.
I second this recommendation!

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skychrome
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Posted - 16 Oct 2009 :  20:47:14  Show Profile  Visit skychrome's Homepage Send skychrome a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HawkinstheDM

quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair

The various Erevis Cale novels are of a very high quality and I highly recommend those.
I second this recommendation!



So do I!

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Dalmar Amad
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Posted - 17 Oct 2009 :  13:33:53  Show Profile  Visit Dalmar Amad's Homepage Send Dalmar Amad a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by skychrome

quote:
Originally posted by HawkinstheDM

quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair

The various Erevis Cale novels are of a very high quality and I highly recommend those.
I second this recommendation!



So do I!



Me too
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Hordak
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Posted - 18 Oct 2009 :  15:08:50  Show Profile  Visit Hordak's Homepage Send Hordak a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dalmar Amad

quote:
Originally posted by skychrome

quote:
Originally posted by HawkinstheDM

quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair

The various Erevis Cale novels are of a very high quality and I highly recommend those.
I second this recommendation!



So do I!



Me too



Well I will highly Recommend The Twilight War, not the Erevis Cale trilogy though.

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Arion Elenim
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Posted - 18 Oct 2009 :  20:49:33  Show Profile  Visit Arion Elenim's Homepage Send Arion Elenim a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Pfft. Skip Elminster. Go for Cale. :)

Oh, and I say start with the Erevis Cale Trilogy.

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Hawkins
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Posted - 19 Oct 2009 :  20:21:00  Show Profile  Visit Hawkins's Homepage Send Hawkins a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hordak

Well I will highly Recommend The Twilight War, not the Erevis Cale trilogy though.
To really know Cale, I think you need to read Shadow's Witness (though the rest of the Sembia series was entertaining as well), then the Ervis Cale Trilogy, and then The Twilight War. Chronological is almost always better IMHO.

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swifty
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Posted - 20 Oct 2009 :  22:05:47  Show Profile  Visit swifty's Homepage Send swifty a Private Message  Reply with Quote
as usual i will throw in a word for the brilliant scions of arrabar trilogy.then check out the cities series.

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Thielan
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Australia
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Posted - 21 Oct 2009 :  10:23:25  Show Profile  Visit Thielan's Homepage Send Thielan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Both Scions of Arrabar and the various Cale books were some of my favourites, but for some background I'd definitely recommend the Avatar series.
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Dantrag
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USA
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Posted - 21 Oct 2009 :  19:22:50  Show Profile  Visit Dantrag's Homepage Send Dantrag a Private Message  Reply with Quote
After i read the Drizzt Series, which was my first FR novels, i started honestly just buying any FR novel that was avaliable. I have not been disappointed by a FR book yet honestly, except Master of Chains that one kinda dissappointed me. Anyway, my suggestion is to read the War of the Spiderqueen series. It will get you interested in other FR books while still ,in some ways, relating to the Drizzt Series to not totally throw you off.

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Teneck
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Posted - 21 Oct 2009 :  23:28:30  Show Profile  Visit Teneck's Homepage Send Teneck a Private Message  Reply with Quote
To expand a bit on what THO said.
Any of the ED presents Watterdeep series would be a fantastic start. I found all four of the (currently) published books to be well written and chock full of good ole Realms lore. For my money you can't start to read about post spell plague Realms in a better place. OH...and there are at least two more of the series scheduled for release in 2010.

Ed Presents Waterdeep;

Downshadow by Erik Scott de Bie
City of the Dead by Rosemary Jones
Mistshore by Jaleigh Johnson
Blackstaff Tower by Steven Schend

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scererar
Master of Realmslore

USA
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Posted - 01 Nov 2009 :  15:47:54  Show Profile Send scererar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
read em all but some of my favorite authors are Schend, Kemp, Greenwood, and Cunningham
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