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Malanthius
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Posted - 07 Aug 2003 :  17:49:37  Show Profile  Visit Malanthius's Homepage Send Malanthius a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Is anyone aware of a character generator that would list forgotten realms feats and spells? Or just a good downloadable generator in general? Thanks in advance.

Mal.

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Canyia
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Posted - 07 Aug 2003 :  18:05:58  Show Profile  Visit Canyia's Homepage Send Canyia a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Like the D&D eTools thing?

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Krandor
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Posted - 07 Aug 2003 :  18:59:19  Show Profile  Visit Krandor's Homepage Send Krandor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I know of a weapon gen, a city gen, a diety gen.

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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 08 Aug 2003 :  05:50:12  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't know of one. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I've been wanting one myself, so if anyone finds one please let me know.

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The Sage
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Posted - 08 Aug 2003 :  06:31:05  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Malanthius, I may be able to help. Two years ago, a small group of Dragonlance and Forgotten Realms fans decided to work on some patches for the D&D Character Generator. The result was a number of files that could be used to replace the files of the Character Generator for general D&D characters to world-specific files that relate to both of the campaign settings I mentioned above. I only have a copy of the DL zip file of patches, and I believe work was starting on the FR patches. It's been a while since I emailed them, so I'll let you know what I turn up.


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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 08 Aug 2003 :  06:33:19  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh, yes please. That sounds just what we both were wanting.

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The Sage
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Posted - 08 Aug 2003 :  06:39:34  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Here is the Dragonlance portion of the site that contains the zip file, in case anyone is interested.


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Malanthius
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Posted - 08 Aug 2003 :  16:01:57  Show Profile  Visit Malanthius's Homepage Send Malanthius a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Okay, but what about forgotten realms? Thanks even for helping me find this...

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Mournblade
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Posted - 08 Aug 2003 :  20:34:14  Show Profile Send Mournblade a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sage of Perth

Here is the Dragonlance portion of the site that contains the zip file, in case anyone is interested.





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The Sage
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Posted - 09 Aug 2003 :  05:18:53  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You know, I am starting to think that I should just supply my ever- growing collection of bookmarks over to the Candlekeep grand scribes. It seems a lot of my fellows scribes make great use of most of the links I present here...


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The Sage
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Posted - 09 Aug 2003 :  05:25:11  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Anyway, as for the FR patch, I have only just received an email back from the creators (well actually the email was sent to me last night, but I was only now just checking my account ) telling me how excited they were about the fact that there are still players who want to use this material.

As I had suspected, they had simply allowed the FR project to fall away after the need for this type of thing became less necessary. However, he has promised to set things right and to start to work on an FR patch soon.

I was thinking about providing them with the emails of those of who who are interested so it can simply be emailed out to you when it is ready.

Just let me all know whether you are okay with that. If not, I'll send an email to your privately then .


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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 09 Aug 2003 :  05:41:13  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Certainly. That is, so long as what they send is a link. I don't think my Hotmail account is big enough for the patch itself . . . .

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The Sage
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Posted - 09 Aug 2003 :  05:48:34  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The patch will only be about 100kb. A Hotmail account normally allows for 1000kb (or 1 mega-byte for the uninitiated), so it should be okay.




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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 09 Aug 2003 :  05:59:12  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If I recall correctly, it's a little more than 1000KB in 1MB.

But I guess it's natural for a computer programer to talk down to us, eh? (Just kidding.)

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The Sage
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Posted - 09 Aug 2003 :  06:18:50  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No, you are right Bookwyrm - 1024kb actually. Although like you said, I just thought I would keep it simple.


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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 09 Aug 2003 :  08:41:12  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Why doesn't this system work on base ten, anyway?

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The Sage
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Posted - 09 Aug 2003 :  09:38:28  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It all has to do with the assembly language used to code the operating systems of the computer. Base Ten simply allowed too much in terms of combinations, and used up (in terms of processing) much of the early resources and memory of the first machines.

Without going into too much technical detail, basically there are seven binary digits (BIT=Binary dIT), and one parity bit which is used to determine true/false-0/1 propositions. If it helps (and you know what I am talking about) think of the parity operation in particle physics which determines (by a method of co-ordinate reversal) specific aspects of a select particle.

The first seven bits relate to the binary code which you are no doubt familiar with - 10101001 for example (which is the decimal number 3). The last and eighth bit is the parity bit which can either be a 0 or a 1. Now if you understand Boolean logic the reason for the parity bit should be obvious.

The 8-bit system allowed (in terms of processing space and combinations) for pretty much everything that was required for the early processors. Of course there are systems that operate in base 10 mode, but these have very few commercial applications at the moment.

For fun once, a group of my fellow programmers and me toyed with the idea of creating a basic assembly language which used a base 60 system (much like the ancient mathematical system of the Babylonians). Needless to say, the effort required by the processors at the time (a 286DX, if I am not mistaken) fell short of the power needed to run the OS.

If you want any more help, I'll provide you with some interesting binary code information from a textbook on assembly language that I used when I was studying at university. The information is fairly basic to understand as long as you enjoy such things as maths, logic (boolean), and decimal and hexidecimal functions.


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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 09 Aug 2003 :  10:41:52  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sage of Perth

Without going into too much technical detail, basically there are seven binary digits (BIT=Binary dIT), and one parity bit which is used to determine true/false-0/1 propositions. If it helps (and you know what I am talking about) think of the parity operation in particle physics which determines (by a method of co-ordinate reversal) specific aspects of a select particle.



I knew that part. Very nice annalogy, though.

quote:

For fun once, a group of my fellow programmers and me toyed with the idea of creating a basic assembly language which used a base 60 system (much like the ancient mathematical system of the Babylonians).



Oh, I'm going to have to tell my professor about that one . . . . After all, until relatively recently, base-60 math was solely the realm of astronomy and astrology, due to the Babylonians. The concept of exact hours and minutes and such didn't become common until people started needing to know exactly what time it was was at any moment. That's when the first 60/60/12 mechanical clocks were used; they could have been built before, but there wasn't much of a need for them.

Hmm. Sorry. [teaching_useless_facts_mode=off]

Anyway, thanks for clearing that up. I hadn't thought of it as a balance between space and convieniance. I should have . . . that's where we got that whole . . . Y2k bug problem.

[::ducks as heavy objects fly at him at the mention of that ear-sore topic . . . .::]

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The Sage
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Posted - 09 Aug 2003 :  15:34:29  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Bookwyrm said -
quote:
After all, until relatively recently, base-60 math was solely the realm of astronomy and astrology, due to the Babylonians. The concept of exact hours and minutes and such didn't become common until people started needing to know exactly what time it was was at any moment. That's when the first 60/60/12 mechanical clocks were used; they could have been built before, but there wasn't much of a need for them.

I always enjoy reading about the ancient world mathematical systems. I find them extremely fascinating. Actually, it was while reading a book about astrology, ancient Babylonian mathematics and both of their relations to zero, that we had originally come up with the idea for the assembly language.

After the first failed attempt, we had still wanted to generate a way of computing our own star charts and recording the passage of important stars using this system. Since adequate processors were now available (it was 1998 and the pentium was a reality), the processing power needed to run the calculations was never a problem. Needless to say, the reams and reams of paper our printer used to produce a hard-copy of the data was a definite site to see. Of course in the end, the whole project was a waste. There was an error in the original coding of the assembly language which carried through to the computations on the star paths.

At the end, I remember saying to myself...now I know how Charles Babbage felt .


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