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Faraer
Great Reader
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 Posted - 13 Sep 2009 : 17:47:54
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Announced at Gen Con, and briefly mentioned in Ed's thread:
http://www.goodman-games.com/pr08-13-09-A.htmlquote:
Goodman Games is pleased to announce that it has signed an agreement with Forgotten Realms® creator and legendary fantasy author Ed Greenwood to publish Ed Greenwood’s Fantastic Worlds, a line of rules-neutral role playing supplements slated for release starting in spring 2010. The first release will cover castles, keeps, and fortifications, with future books scheduled to cover world-building, city design, mythology, and other subjects . . .
Ed has also been mentioned as set to write for the publishing company Frank Mentzer, Tim Kask and Jim Ward are forming.
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
2950 Posts |
Posted - 13 Sep 2009 : 20:47:56
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Yes, yes yes! Those are the best news I have heard concerning gaming in years.
I wonder how the TSR veterans company will turn out and what their products
will be. With Ed writing for them it becomes even more interesting.
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Brian R. James
Forgotten Realms Game Designer
USA
1098 Posts |
Posted - 14 Sep 2009 : 00:31:12
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| Excellent news! I cannot wait to give these a read. |
Brian R. James - Freelance Game Designer
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 14 Sep 2009 : 01:15:54
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Very impressive! And I'm especially curious about those world-building and mythology sections from Ed. As they're almost always the more fascinating parts of campaign creation, it'll definitely be interesting to read what Ed has to say on both subjects. Or rather, what more he has to say, since we've already been exposed to some of his thoughts on such topics here at Candlekeep. 
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3290 Posts |
Posted - 14 Sep 2009 : 08:40:32
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I look forward to checking them out. |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep |
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Dark Wizard
Senior Scribe
USA
830 Posts |
Posted - 15 Sep 2009 : 04:30:27
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| Very intriguing. I will definitely check it out when it comes out. It sounds like a very in depth, split into volumes, version of the old Worldbuilder's Guidebook from the 2e days, but with Ed's style. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36894 Posts |
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bladeinAmn
Learned Scribe
199 Posts |
Posted - 15 Sep 2009 : 07:15:06
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| I was in a hobby store today and I saw a big book that was also by Ed, called "Castlemourn"! I don't know how old it is, but it was in the main section, and it too looked very promising! |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 15 Sep 2009 : 08:02:09
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quote:
Originally posted by bladeinAmn
I was in a hobby store today and I saw a big book that was also by Ed, called "Castlemourn"! I don't know how old it is, but it was in the main section, and it too looked very promising!
Ed's CASTLEMOURN was released in 2007 by Margaret Weis Productions. If you're interested in learning more, I'd recommend you download the free A Player's Guide to Castlemourn from DriveThruRPG, located here:- http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product_info.php?products_id=12630 |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3290 Posts |
Posted - 15 Sep 2009 : 16:25:35
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quote:
Originally posted by bladeinAmn
I was in a hobby store today and I saw a big book that was also by Ed, called "Castlemourn"! I don't know how old it is, but it was in the main section, and it too looked very promising!
You bought it right?
Now I got to go start looking thru my copy! |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep |
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bladeinAmn
Learned Scribe
199 Posts |
Posted - 15 Sep 2009 : 19:42:40
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Thanks for the link The Sage! And silly me didn't even see the Castlemourn thread in this same forum, juss a few blocks currently down from this one until after I posted!
Brimstone, I didn't know I was gonna end up around the way where the gaming shop was, and juss popped in b/c I hadn't been in one in such a long time! I wasn't anticipating something that was gonna pique my interest as much as Castlemourn did.
So no, that and the fact that I've got an exceedingly rich 2e campaign goin on at the moment will make me hold off on my Castlemourn purchase---for now! It will still remain in mind and heart, for later. |
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 15 Sep 2009 : 21:52:43
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I'm glad to see Ed returning, perhaps, to the kind of material he wrote for Dragon before the runaway success of the Realms took over his game-writing time.
There's an unfortunate perception, which publishers have pandered to, that material for named settings is less adaptable to one's campaign than material labelled 'generic': which is by necessity either bland-to-uselessness or just as specific as the named-setting stuff but, in the popular dead metaphor, with the serial numbers filed off. Partly this is a consequence of particular kinds of branding.
So I'm imagining that the Fantastic Worlds books will be distinguished from most of Ed's published Realms/Kalamar/Castlemourn lore not by the fake dichotomy of 'genericness' but of focusing on how things work rather than individual cases of what they are. (Which I think Realms publishing could also have used much more of.)
Castlemourn is a must for anyone who loves the early, by-necessity-creator-rather-than-company-driven Realms. Though different in many ways, it's more Realmslike on the process level mentioned above than almost everything Wizards put out in the last decade. It's a perfect setting for those put off, for whatever reason, by the existence of voluminous Realmslore, and it's a very useful resource for any Realms campaign that features the on- or off-stage worldwalking that's so fundamental, though downplayed, to Ed's multiverse. |
Edited by - Faraer on 16 Sep 2009 01:34:11 |
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore
Finland
1564 Posts |
Posted - 16 Sep 2009 : 01:12:41
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Sounds like a truly fascinating series of books... I'm already sold!  |
"What am I doing today? Ask me tomorrow - I can be sure of giving you the right answer then."
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Quale
Master of Realmslore
1757 Posts |
Posted - 18 Sep 2009 : 18:30:06
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| Ed's Kalamar books, would they fit easily in the Realms? Not familiar with the world. |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3290 Posts |
Posted - 18 Sep 2009 : 23:10:08
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quote:
Originally posted by Quale
Ed's Kalamar books, would they fit easily in the Realms? Not familiar with the world.
What? Tell me more! |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Faraer
Great Reader
3308 Posts |
Posted - 18 Sep 2009 : 23:32:48
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| Kalamar's a pretty normal D&Dish world, and they'd fit in the Realms with a bit of work. Geanavue (by Ed with John O'Neill) and Loona (by Ed and Phil Thompson) are city/town supplements: the independent craft city and nearby port town could with some patching be dropped into Faerûn somewhere, or alternatively ransacked for elements like unusual buildings, guilds, noble families, undercity, spells and rumours. |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3290 Posts |
Posted - 19 Sep 2009 : 08:30:16
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| I never knew that Ed had anything to do with them. Thanks. |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36894 Posts |
Posted - 19 Sep 2009 : 16:04:40
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Originally posted by Brimstone
I never knew that Ed had anything to do with them. Thanks.
Ditto. When those books came out, I had every other hardcover book for 1E and 2E, but those I decided to ignore. I didn't know anything at all about them. |
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Edited by - Wooly Rupert on 19 Sep 2009 16:06:05 |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 19 Sep 2009 : 17:21:51
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Heh. I always make it a point to check the credits of most RPG books. Or research their publication details fully. So when I noticed Ed's name was attached to those early Kalamar releases, I immediately created a pre-order for them at my NSFAHLGS.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36894 Posts |
Posted - 19 Sep 2009 : 17:31:48
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
Heh. I always make it a point to check the credits of most RPG books. Or research their publication details fully. So when I noticed Ed's name was attached to those early Kalamar releases, I immediately created a pre-order for them at my NSFAHLGS.
NSFAHLGS? Not So Friendly -- Actually Hostile -- Local Game Store? |
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 20 Sep 2009 : 00:08:23
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Originally posted by The Sage
Heh. I always make it a point to check the credits of most RPG books.
How sad that this statement isn't absurd! Even in RPG publishing, where editing, development and graphic design are more important than many other fields, a future book's author is much the best indicator of how you'll like it -- much more reliable in my opinion than reviews (or the more common 'reviews'), or the publisher. Yet the marginalization of authors in favour of publishers and brands (including rulesets) is firmly enculturated in the RPG field and can be seen everywhere from cover layout to the ENnies to the way drivethrustuff.com is set up, and in the tendency towards multi-author RPG books which sacrifice individual style and whole-book coherence. Reducing artists/craftspeople to semi-anonymous functionaries harms freelancers' abilities to earn a living, puts off talented people from working in the field, and does publishers no long-term good.
Obviously companies like brands; I dislike the 'Famous Author Presents' shtick partly because it seems to say 'we're willing to promote using this name in so far as it's transformed into a brand rather than a person who writes'. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 20 Sep 2009 : 01:28:06
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
Heh. I always make it a point to check the credits of most RPG books. Or research their publication details fully. So when I noticed Ed's name was attached to those early Kalamar releases, I immediately created a pre-order for them at my NSFAHLGS.
NSFAHLGS? Not So Friendly -- Actually Hostile -- Local Game Store?
Close. Not So Friendly And Hardly Local Gaming Store.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 20 Sep 2009 : 01:32:39
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quote:
Originally posted by Faraer
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
Heh. I always make it a point to check the credits of most RPG books.
How sad that this statement isn't absurd!
Well, I should point out that such thinking isn't the be all end all of my decision of making process when deciding whether or not to purchase an RPG tome. I merely like to look for any additional authorship tidbits that might not be immediately known. I didn't buy the Kalamar books solely because of Ed's name. I bought them because I enjoy the world, and like reading about it. Ed's contributions were just a healthy "plus" in my book. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36894 Posts |
Posted - 20 Sep 2009 : 01:34:40
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quote:
Originally posted by Faraer
Obviously companies like brands; I dislike the 'Famous Author Presents' shtick partly because it seems to say 'we're willing to promote using this name in so far as it's transformed into a brand rather than a person who writes'.
I'm not a fan of that phenomenon, myself. |
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D-brane
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
140 Posts |
Posted - 20 Sep 2009 : 01:40:43
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quote:
Originally posted by Faraer
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
Heh. I always make it a point to check the credits of most RPG books.
How sad that this statement isn't absurd! Even in RPG publishing, where editing, development and graphic design are more important than many other fields, a future book's author is much the best indicator of how you'll like it -- much more reliable in my opinion than reviews (or the more common 'reviews'), or the publisher.
I'm confused. Are you saying The Sage's perspective is a good thing or a bad thing? Because I often do the same as The Sage when looking over books. And while it's also not a deciding factor in my own process of deciding whether to buy the book, it does help me as I like to know about all contributing authors. |
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 20 Sep 2009 : 01:43:32
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Originally posted by D-brane
I'm confused. Are you saying The Sage's perspective is a good thing or a bad thing?
I'm saying it's a good thing and in a saner world than ours it would go without saying.quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
I bought them because I enjoy the world, and like reading about it. Ed's contributions were just a healthy "plus" in my book.
Sure, and that's a question of subject matter -- I'm assuming above that one's choosing between books about a subject one wants to read about. Though part of how brands are built is by converting people's attachment to a subject to the company that has a habitual or legally bound association with that subject. (Of course there are rational reasons for trusting a particular publisher's books to be well conceived, edited, or produced, as well.) |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 20 Sep 2009 : 01:57:44
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Aye. I've seen that a lot from the few RPG publishers here in Australia. Due to the fact that it's such a small industry here, I feel they're often forced to compensate. So they snap up famous designer names, and constantly switch them between brands, almost as if they're outright suggesting that the brand, rather than the author, is the most important factor necessary for RPG development.
I've no problem following the works of particular publishers. But I have to be sure that I'm getting a worthwhile combination of the designer's work, excellent editing/publication/distribution, and overall campaign usage, when I pick up an RPG tome.
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 25 Sep 2009 : 11:44:05
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So far planned:
-- castles, keeps, and fortifications
-- world-building
-- city design
-- mythology
What else would we like to see?
-- trade
-- adventuring
-- dungeon design
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(Corollaries to the discussion of authors above include the art world, where the identity and image of artists plays an inflated role in the artistic and commercial evaluation of visual art, and perhaps film auteurism, in that it sometimes arbitrarily minimizes the role of people other than the director.) |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3290 Posts |
Posted - 21 Nov 2009 : 14:27:35
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| Any word on the release date? |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3290 Posts |
Posted - 05 Apr 2010 : 09:32:20
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quote:
Originally posted by Faraer
Announced at Gen Con, and briefly mentioned in Ed's thread:
http://www.goodman-games.com/pr08-13-09-A.htmlquote:
Goodman Games is pleased to announce that it has signed an agreement with Forgotten Realms® creator and legendary fantasy author Ed Greenwood to publish Ed Greenwood’s Fantastic Worlds, a line of rules-neutral role playing supplements slated for release starting in spring 2010. The first release will cover castles, keeps, and fortifications, with future books scheduled to cover world-building, city design, mythology, and other subjects . . .
Ed has also been mentioned as set to write for the publishing company Frank Mentzer, Tim Kask and Jim Ward are forming.
Its Spring 2010 now...anyword? |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep |
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
2950 Posts |
Posted - 10 Apr 2010 : 09:48:11
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quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone
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Originally posted by Faraer
Announced at Gen Con, and briefly mentioned in Ed's thread:
http://www.goodman-games.com/pr08-13-09-A.htmlquote:
Goodman Games is pleased to announce that it has signed an agreement with Forgotten Realms® creator and legendary fantasy author Ed Greenwood to publish Ed Greenwood’s Fantastic Worlds, a line of rules-neutral role playing supplements slated for release starting in spring 2010. The first release will cover castles, keeps, and fortifications, with future books scheduled to cover world-building, city design, mythology, and other subjects . . .
Ed has also been mentioned as set to write for the publishing company Frank Mentzer, Tim Kask and Jim Ward are forming.
Its Spring 2010 now...anyword?
I had forgotten about this. Any one know the name planed by Mentzer and co. by the way? |
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