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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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 Posted - 14 Aug 2009 : 03:12:35
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I'm setting aside this scroll for any particular RPG news our Candlekeep scribes may learn from this year's Gen Con. This includes info about any and all WotC products [like core 4e D&D, Star Wars Saga Edition, EBERRON, etc.], as well as from those of third-party publishers, and from the folks over at Paizo. I'll even extend this to allow discussion about RPG products from altogether different settings and/or publishers, like Catalyst Game Labs [BattleTech, CthulhuTech, and Shadowrun for example].
I thought it best to have just the one discussion scroll, making it easier for interested scribes to find exactly what they're looking for.
Let's hear from those of you who were lucky enough to attend this year.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 14 Aug 2009 : 20:31:37
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Ouch. I just found the regular RPG News scroll. What a shame 
I´m copy/pasting my post in the FR News scroll, so any moderator can delete this post (or I delete it later).
Here it is:
Well, I am not in the Con, but I just find the new about the next year setting...
Dark Sun is one of my favorites... It is good to see it again.
And, for those that not read it yet, here is the
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Darkmeer
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Posted - 14 Aug 2009 : 23:42:06
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Oddly, Given the 4e concepts and preconceptions, I think Dark Sun will be a good setting for the way the game plays.
I loved Athas, but I never got anyone to play in that setting. Too bad, too. I hope it does well for them, and I'll at least look at the setting book for ideas to steal.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 15 Aug 2009 : 00:33:23
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Originally posted by Chosen of Moradin
Well, I am not in the Con, but I just find the new about the next year setting...
Dark Sun is one of my favorites... It is good to see it again.  
And, for those that not read it yet, here is the link
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P.S.: yes, Sage, I know that the post is about FR News, but man, is Dark Sun. 
And, if this could count to relate FR and DS, both settings suffer great changes in the hands of Troy Denning´s novels.
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Now, back to wait what will came from the FR Seminars...
I'm both pleased and a little annoyed by this news. I was really hoping that DRAGONLANCE would be the next setting featured by Wizards. But DARK SUN is definitely a worthwhile trade-off.
And I suspected the events of the "Prism Pentad" novels would be included, as they've only just received re-printed editions.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 15 Aug 2009 : 00:41:39
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Carried, at the Sage's request, from the other scroll:
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Originally posted by Arivia
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Chosen of Moradin
Well, I am not in the Con, but I just find the new about the next year setting...
Dark Sun is one of my favorites... It is good to see it again.
And, for those that not read it yet, here is the link
It sounds as if they're not going to have the prior novels be canon. And that disappoints me, because I enjoyed those novels (at least the Prism Pentad; I've only read one other DS novel), and I'd like to see the ramifications of those events play out.
The fact that they mentioned deliberately sitting on the setting for a while makes me wonder just how far back 4E was being planned...
The interview linked specifically says they'll be including the Prism Pentad, to take full advantage of its reprints.
Here's the exact quote, boldfacing mine:
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Our goal with the setting was to cleave as close to the original boxed set as possible while still allowing as many D&D options as we could and making the setting ideal for 4th Edition play. We’re in the process of re-releasing Troy Denning’s excellent Prism Pentad series of novels, and we didn’t want readers to come away from those books and look at the campaign setting and not recognize it as the same world. So we tried to capture the essence of the original Dark Sun boxed set while ensuring that the Prism Pentad novels could be one possible way things turn out.
I don't see any way to interpret that as meaning the novels are canon. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 15 Aug 2009 : 00:47:18
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| Perhaps it means that those novels won't be included in the official timeline/history established for 4e DS. The events of the novels could simply be featured in a brief section or a series of sidebars in the Campaign Guide that include alternate options for DMs wanting to explore the post-"Prism Pentad" Athas. |
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Jakk
Great Reader
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Posted - 15 Aug 2009 : 02:22:14
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| I was just Googling this subject, and not having much luck... has anybody heard anything about the Realms seminar on Friday? I'm curious as to what was revealed, but not expecting a whole lot... after all, all we have from this point in are DDi articles, and I have no intention of subscribing because there's nothing I can use (i.e., pre-Spellplague) being offered. Maybe I'm just looking too quickly; after all, it's only 6:20 PM Friday on the West Coast... |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
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Posted - 15 Aug 2009 : 04:17:53
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| So I guess Dark Sun is going with the Eberron Model of novels. Could be canon only if you the DM, wants it to be canon for your game. |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
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Posted - 15 Aug 2009 : 14:25:49
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Posted at enworld.org
Last night at Gen Con, the winners of the 2009 Gen Con EN World RPG Awards were announced! Congratulations to all the winners!
Best Cover Art
Gold: CthulhuTech, Catalyst Game Labs
Silver: Pathfinder #19: Howl of the Carrion King, Paizo Publishing
Best Interior Art
Gold: Dark Heresy, Fantasy Flight Games
Silver: Mouse Guard, Kinoichi / Archaia Studio Press
Best Cartography
Gold: Pathfinder Chronicles Second Darkness Map Folio, Paizo Publishing
Silver: Star Wars: Scum and Villainy, Wizards of the Coast
Best Writing
Gold: Kobold Quarterly, Open Design
Silver: Don't Lose Your Mind, Evil Hat Productions
Best Production Values
Gold: Dark Heresy, Fantasy Flight Games
Silver: Mouse Guard, Kinoichi / Archaia Studios Press
Best Rules
Gold: Dungeons & Dragons 4th Edition Players Handbook, Wizards of the Coast
Silver: A Song of Ice and Fire Roleplaying, Green Ronin Publishing
Best Adventure
Gold: Pathfinder #19: Howl of the Carrion King, Paizo Publishing
Silver: P1 King of the Trollhaunts Warrens, Wizards of the Coast
Best Monster Supplement
Gold: Dungeons & Dragons 4th Edition Monster Manual, Wizards of the Coast
Silver: Dark Heresy Creatures Anathema, Fantasy Flight Games
Best Setting
Gold: Pathfinder Chronicles Campaign Setting, Paizo Publishing
Silver: Swashbucklers of the 7 Skies, Atomic Sock Monkey / Evil Hat Productions
Best Supplement
Gold: CthulhuTech Vade Mecum, Catalyst Game Labs
Silver: Star Wars: The Clone Wars, Wizards of the Coast
Best Aid or Accessory
Gold: D&D Insider, Wizards of the Coast
Silver: Kobold Quarterly, Open Design
Best Miniatures
Gold: Game Mastery Flip-mat: Waterfront Tavern, Paizo Publishing
Silver: DU1 Halls of the Giant Kings Dungeon Tiles, Wizards of the Coast
Best Regalia
Gold: Battletech: The Corps, Catalyst Game Labs
Silver: Art of Exalted, White Wolf Publishing
Best Ebook
Gold: Collection of Horrors: Razor Kids, White Wolf Publishing
Silver: Tales of Zobek: An Anthology of Urban Adventures, Open Design
Best Free Product
Gold: Song of Ice and Fire Quickstart, Green Ronin Publishing
Silver: Swords and Wizardry, Mythmere Games
Best Website
Gold: Obsidian Portal
Silver: Kobold Quarterly
Best Podcast
Gold: All Games Considered
Silver: Order 66
Best Game
Gold: Dungeons and Dragons 4th Edition, Wizards of the Coast
Silver: Dark Heresy, Fantasy Flight Games
Product of the Year
Gold: Dungeons & Dragons 4th Edition Players Handbook, Wizards of the Coast
Silver: Mouse Guard, Kinoichi / Archaia Studios Press
Fan Award for Best Publisher:
Gold: Wizards of the Coast
Silver: Paizo Publishing
And the results of the 2010 ENnies Judges Election:
1. Justin 'Jay' Peters
2. Jeramy Ware
3. Mark W. Green
4. Christopher W. Richeson
5. Megan Robertson
Just found out who the winners are.
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thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
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then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
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Jakk
Great Reader
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Posted - 17 Aug 2009 : 00:51:49
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 Erm... why are the Ennie award winners here, instead of in the Nominations scroll?
Edit: Fixed typo. |
Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.
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Brimstone
Great Reader
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Posted - 17 Aug 2009 : 01:10:11
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Because its news from Gencon.
Where is that other scroll?
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"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3290 Posts |
Posted - 17 Aug 2009 : 01:48:23
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| Thanks, I will post the winners on that scroll also. |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Jakk
Great Reader
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Posted - 17 Aug 2009 : 06:25:32
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Originally posted by Brimstone
Because its news from Gencon.
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Infallible logic, Brimstone... I can't fault you there. I was just a wee bit choked to see Wizards beat Paizo for Best Publisher. As far as Best Ruleset goes, I still think the best system out there is Green Ronin's True20. |
Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.
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Sian
Senior Scribe
Denmark
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Posted - 17 Aug 2009 : 06:37:24
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| Jakk ... i think at least patially the blame can be put onthat Wizards is still a bigger fish than Pazio ... and that PF 3.75 didn't air till doing Gencon |
what happened to the queen? she's much more hysterical than usual
She's a women, it happens once a month |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
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Posted - 17 Aug 2009 : 16:32:34
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| I don't know how reliable this is, but when i went to pick up my copy of the Pathfinder RPG from my FLGS on Thursday (sadly, they did not get their shipment until Friday), the employee on shift got a call from a co-worker @ GenCon, and he said that the co-worker said that the Paizo booth was crowded and the WotC one was rather empty. So there is a good chance of Paizo getting named best publisher next year. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 17 Aug 2009 : 16:51:39
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Originally posted by HawkinstheDM
I don't know how reliable this is, but when i went to pick up my copy of the Pathfinder RPG from my FLGS on Thursday (sadly, they did not get their shipment until Friday), the employee on shift got a call from a co-worker @ GenCon, and he said that the co-worker said that the Paizo booth was crowded and the WotC one was rather empty. So there is a good chance of Paizo getting named best publisher next year.
Well, as much as I love to think negatively of WotC, I'm still not sure we can see this as an indicator of anything. Paizo was presenting the new thing this year, so of course they're going to get a lot of attention. If we see the same thing at next year's GenCon, then I'll be willing to admit that WotC's dominance is being challenged. |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
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Posted - 17 Aug 2009 : 17:24:34
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IIRC on the BLOG at Paizo, they said that they didn't submit the PATHFINDER Beta Rule Set for the Ennies. Maybe next year. Wizards needs some good Compitition(sp).
I still have not heard how long it took for them to sell all of the Pathfinder Books they brought to Gencon. If you checked out the Enworld news page, or the Paizo Blog, you would SEE what I mean. That was alot of books. |
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to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Christopher_Rowe
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 17 Aug 2009 : 17:33:01
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I thought ALL the booths were crowded!
I'm back and exhausted, but also absolutely thrilled and on fire with energy and enthusiasm for my work, my gaming, and for the Realms.
It was great to meet and game with Brian and Matt James, Erik Scott de Bie, and Garen Thal (on the day his fantastic Airspur article came out nonetheless, though the frenetic pace of the con kept me from reading it until I got home). And also tons of other great folks from Wizards, Paizo, Catalyst Games, Gaming Paper, Alea Tools, Reaper Miniatures, the RPGA, and AEG. Everywhere I went folks were generous with their time, and enthusiastic about what they were doing.
I've been going to sf/fantasy cons as a professional writer for over a decade now, but I'd never been to a Gen-Con. It was by far my favorite convention ever.
I got to play in some great D&D games. First, I made 6th level with my main LFR character, playing with a great bunch of people--a really diverse set of players that included me, a Denver dad about my age with his 13 year old son and 12 year old daughter, and a 22 year old woman from St. Louis. We rocked!
Then I played in the supah-sekrit game co-run by the James Brothers. Other players included Garen Thal and Erik, and a bunch of great Realms enthusiasts from all over the world (including the LFR Dalelands writing director who posts as Gomez over at the Wizards boards). That game, well. There's something pretty special on the horizon, y'all.
And when I had an hour to kill I did a Delve with a bunch of guys, coincidentally DMed by Gomez, and we got pasted but had a lot of laughs. The guys policing the line even gave me a free miniature because I let some people ahead of me so they could play at the same table with their friends!
The Dealer's Room, wow! It's more like a trade show than the "cons" I attend, even WorldCon. I spent way too much money, but am happy with my new magnets for marking conditions, my Reaper minis, and this awesome looking boardgame called the Adventurers.
Programming stuff was fun too. I went to the Realms panel, some writery stuff with Jean Rabe and Richard Lee Byers, some Catalyst Games stuff, and, ha! The Spin-a-Yarn.
I will again insist that it's not my fault, and that in my view pudding is a wholesome, family friendly foodstuf.
Which brings me to the huge thrill of meeting a childhood hero and living icon, Ed Greenwood. We shared a meal with Erik, the quiet-but-deadly Jaleigh Johnson, and Realms author/editrix Erin Evans and it was fantastic. I asked Erin to take a picture of me with Ed and Ed reacted with, erm, unexpected enthusiasm, let's say. I sent it to my wife and she texted back, "I thought you said you'd never met him." And then later, "Where's his other hand?"
Anyway, if you ever get a chance to go, I highly recommend it. Everybody seemed to be enjoying themselves, and everybody was kind.
Cheers,
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 17 Aug 2009 : 19:14:03
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All I can say is Dragon Age looks fricking wicked from the demo they had at the comp section. Oh yea, Green Ronin is also taking the comp game and making it into a pen and paper setting, they had a flyer about it at their booth.
Otherwise, I spent the weekend in the dealers hall and sight seeing again. Well, Saturday I also visited the museum to admire the Tut exhibit which was really beautiful. Wish I could have taken pics of that exhibit but it was one of the places that photo's are barred.
I have 100+ pics this year since I have a new camera that can store 1k pics. If anyone wants the links, or is already on my face book friends, just ask.
Yesterday stunk because of the storms in Chicago. My 1030 PM arrival in Rochy turned out to be a 2AM arrival. Mutters.
Still, was a great weekend. Does anyone have any info about the Realms seminar? |
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Christopher_Rowe
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Posted - 17 Aug 2009 : 19:23:00
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Realms seminar! Okay, in no particular order, just stuff I remember while I'm popping in between mowing the front yard and the back:
Mark Sehestedt's name is HUGE on the proposed cover for book one of new trilogy.
They announced the Bros. James upcoming Dungeon article set north of the Moonsea.
Chris Tulach talked about LFR a bunch, including announcing that the next "mini" campaign (they've got a new name for it, LFR Explorations or something like that) will be set in Undermountain.
They polled the room on what other cities people would like to see covered in article series like the ongoing Akanûl pieces: people mentioned Shadowdale and Waterdeep, of course, I proposed Nathlan, and Erik S dB got a big roar of approval when he proposed Westgate.
Next "standalone series" of novels (a lá The Wilds, etc] will be The Planestouched.
The Ed presents Waterdeep series is essentially ongoing, and may continue more or less indefinitely so long as there's still a demand.
Man, I know there's something else my ears pricked up about, but, the BIG one was that Ed described his upcoming Dragon column series. Sounded pretty freeform, with no "series" theme. He mentioned that it'll all be stuff that you can drop into your Realms game, and might be a trend, an NPC, a small organization, any number of things. He's drafted twelve and I think he said he's turned in the first-round rewrites on three of those. Yay!
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 18 Aug 2009 : 01:14:08
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Originally posted by Kuje
All I can say is Dragon Age looks fricking wicked from the demo they had at the comp section. Oh yea, Green Ronin is also taking the comp game and making it into a pen and paper setting, they had a flyer about it at their booth.
Nice. Dragon Age has definitely been one of the games I've been looking forward to. And the prospect of a pen & paper setting just makes it that much more appealing.
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Otherwise, I spent the weekend in the dealers hall and sight seeing again. Well, Saturday I also visited the museum to admire the Tut exhibit which was really beautiful. Wish I could have taken pics of that exhibit but it was one of the places that photo's are barred.
Confound it!
As you recall from some of our previous discussions, this was one of the major incentives for me to journey to Gen Con this year. I was really looking forward to seeing this exhibit.
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I have 100+ pics this year since I have a new camera that can store 1k pics. If anyone wants the links, or is already on my face book friends, just ask.
I'd like the link.
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Kuje
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Posted - 18 Aug 2009 : 02:17:09
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Originally posted by The Sage
Confound it!
As you recall from some of our previous discussions, this was one of the major incentives for me to journey to Gen Con this year. I was really looking forward to seeing this exhibit.
It was beautiful. They had items from each of the chambers of the tomb. I can recall some of the statues, cartouches, a bed, a toilet (lol), many pieces of jewelry, and many items. All told, I think they had about three to four dozens pieces on display.
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Gen Con '09 RPG news scroll
