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Aerik DeVallo
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 Posted - 26 Mar 2009 : 22:36:31
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Just a really interesting question I came up with. Maybe even Salvatore himself would care to consider...
What if Drizzt had Dervish (Complete Warrior) levels? I mean, obviously it would be like, perfect for him.
What do you all think?
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sfdragon
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Posted - 26 Mar 2009 : 22:51:02
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well a few people use that prc with him.
I do think he'd be even more dangerous |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 26 Mar 2009 : 23:08:02
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| People have been saying "Drizzt should be a dervish" for years now. It's nothing new. I'm not sure how appropriate it would be either (I don't know much about the class). |
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Aerik DeVallo
Seeker
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Posted - 27 Mar 2009 : 03:39:16
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I didn't know anything about people saying it for years, as I have not been a poster until recently, but I just thought of it and a collision of awesome happened in my imagination lol.
I mean, A Thousand Cuts (ability)? C'mon...lol
Talk about killing A Thousand Orcs, only more literally. He's dangerous period, but with something like that under his belt, he would just be broken. |
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sfdragon
Great Reader
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Posted - 27 Mar 2009 : 03:48:18
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| he already was already able to dance through his opponents ranks |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
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Posted - 27 Mar 2009 : 04:04:10
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It must e that +7 Everbright Plot Armor.  |
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Aerik DeVallo
Seeker
USA
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Posted - 27 Mar 2009 : 04:07:49
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???
Who has +7 Everbright armor? I haven't read Hunter's Blades, yet. I'm trying to take it as slow as I can on some of the novels I haven't read so I can enjoy every second.
Don't worry about spoiling anything for me, though, as I'm the most easily pleased and impressed individual that ever walked the planet Earth lol. |
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Drizztsmanchild
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 27 Mar 2009 : 04:10:02
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Sorry what's a Dervish? |
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Drizztsmanchild
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 27 Mar 2009 : 04:18:41
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Drizzt doesnt doesn'thave Everbright armor it's just MT describing the protection of Drizzt in Wotc per se. He does pick up an item or 2 in the Hunter's Blade tilrogy :O .And thats that's all I'm going to give away. |
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Aerik DeVallo
Seeker
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Posted - 27 Mar 2009 : 04:19:14
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A Dervish is a swordsman who blends fighting with either two or one single slashing weapons with a dance to a more deadlier effect. They get certain abilities and special powers.
The class is in Complete Warrior, pg. 25. |
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Drizztsmanchild
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 27 Mar 2009 : 04:23:47
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| Oh well then he already does do that. So I would prob class hi that way by default. Especially with the enhanced speed bracers on his calves. BTW I don't play so I would have to research that class in the Pg when I go to the store. Thanks for the info though |
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Aerik DeVallo
Seeker
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Posted - 27 Mar 2009 : 04:32:02
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Just so you don't think this is what I was saying, Drizzt doesn't dance when he's fighting. Salvatore describes his fighting style "like a dance". What a Dervish does actually is a dance, combined with attacks specifically designed for the practitioner of the art. It's like comparing oriental martial arts to brazilian martial arts: They are both martial arts, but not the same as the other.
As a Dervish gets better (goes up in level), the deadlier his/her dances become. They have this thing called Dervish Dance that they can use a certain number of times per day that gives them bonuses on attack and damage, so long as they are 'dancing'.
I know what your saying. It's actually just splitting hairs, if you ask me, but the point I'm trying to make is that Drizzt doesn't have the abilities of a Dervish because he's not a Dervish. I just wanted to see what every one thought about the question of 'what if he did'. lol |
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Drizztsmanchild
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 27 Mar 2009 : 04:42:22
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| Ah ok i see now. But the "special dance" that a Dervish is allowed to do once or twice a day is similar to the "hunter" that Drizzt already becomes once in a while isn't it? From your description it sounds the same only without the actual dancing part . So IMO the only thing that would change would be his class not his abilities since they are very similar to each other. But in either case he is an extraordinary fighter. Just your thoughts How would you go into combining the classes, what extra abilities would he gain from Dervish that he doesn't possess now.? |
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Aerik DeVallo
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Posted - 27 Mar 2009 : 04:51:49
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From what I have learned, the "Hunter" Drizzt becomes (due to his time spent in the wilds of the Underdark) would sum up his level in Barbarian. The place that he goes in the heat of battle, if he doesn't control himself.
Drizzt has every right to be called a legendary fighter and he's awesome the way he is.
But I wouldn't have to combine the classes, just make him go up in Dervish class along with his other classes. All he'd need is to learn to dance and combine his swordwork with the techniques Dervishes use.
Extra abilites would be the Dervish Dance (Which improves attack and damage while dancing, and progressively gets better as you level up in it), Armor class bonus (which would make him nearly impossible to hit), Enhanced speed (on top of his already considerable speed, thanks to those anklets of speed he wears) and less of a penalty for wielding two weapons at once (increasing his chance to hit considerably), Dance of Death (which grants him the Cleave feat while he's doing Dervish dance, meaning that he just saws through one after the other even moreso), etc...
Need I go on? lol
Like I said, it was just a cool idea that struck me as I was working on a character. |
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Drizztsmanchild
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 27 Mar 2009 : 04:58:21
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| Ah well then by all means I definately wouldn't mind him gaining levels as a Dervish class. |
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Aerik DeVallo
Seeker
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87 Posts |
Posted - 27 Mar 2009 : 05:00:24
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I just thought it would be a perfect combination for Drizzt, seeing as how he already favor's two handed slashing technique.
It would also make for some new interesting novels, if you ask me. lol |
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Kilvan
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 27 Mar 2009 : 11:50:22
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quote:
Originally posted by Archmagus Brandon
From what I have learned, the "Hunter" Drizzt becomes (due to his time spent in the wilds of the Underdark) would sum up his level in Barbarian. The place that he goes in the heat of battle, if he doesn't control himself.
I think his actual barbarian level comes from his years alone in the underdark in Exile. Back then, he was the "hunter" all the time, until he met his deep gnome friend. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 27 Mar 2009 : 13:46:15
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| In the eagerness to apply the mechanical aspects of this PrC to Drizzt, has anyone considered whether or not the background of the class would be appropriate for him? |
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Aerik DeVallo
Seeker
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Posted - 27 Mar 2009 : 14:11:13
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Kilvan, isn't that what I said? lol Before he met Bulper (or whatever the gnomes name was) he was forced to surrender completely to his insticts whenever it came to his survival. He could still control himself, though. He just didn't, because not controling himself was a far more effective weapon than the control he had in the wild.
And Wooly, that is a very appropriate question. Well, let us think for a moment: If Drizzt spent much time in the Silver Marches, traveling back and forth with dwarven caravan's and such, meeting with gypsies (dual-sword wearing gypsies) along the numerous trade roads, I think he would find it fascinating and want to spar/play with one. If only just to see their technique.
...Maybe, Wooly? lol |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 27 Mar 2009 : 15:06:04
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quote:
Originally posted by Archmagus Brandon
Kilvan, isn't that what I said? lol Before he met Bulper (or whatever the gnomes name was)
Belwar Dissengulp. 
quote:
Originally posted by Archmagus Brandon
he was forced to surrender completely to his insticts whenever it came to his survival. He could still control himself, though. He just didn't, because not controling himself was a far more effective weapon than the control he had in the wild.
Not only that, but being alone in a dark and oppressing place for an extended length of time isn't exactly conducive to happy thoughts. By surrendering to the hunter, he was living off of instinct, and not thinking about his life. I think this was more of a factor than anything else.
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Originally posted by Archmagus Brandon
And Wooly, that is a very appropriate question. Well, let us think for a moment: If Drizzt spent much time in the Silver Marches, traveling back and forth with dwarven caravan's and such, meeting with gypsies (dual-sword wearing gypsies) along the numerous trade roads, I think he would find it fascinating and want to spar/play with one. If only just to see their technique.
...Maybe, Wooly? lol
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 27 Mar 2009 : 15:11:51
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
In the eagerness to apply the mechanical aspects of this PrC to Drizzt, has anyone considered whether or not the background of the class would be appropriate for him?
I did, see my first post. |
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Apex
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 27 Mar 2009 : 19:10:13
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| Of course the real reason you want the Drizzt to be a dervish is for the adventuring garb requirements of the class: "the typical dervish enters battle wearing little more than a loincloth and shoes to allow for free movement during the dance". That alone would make this class perfect for the Drizzt following. |
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Drizztsmanchild
Learned Scribe
USA
228 Posts |
Posted - 28 Mar 2009 : 06:55:29
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Yep. That's exactly the reason |
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BEAST
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 28 Mar 2009 : 19:12:17
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quote:
Originally posted by Archmagus Brandon
From what I have learned, the "Hunter" Drizzt becomes (due to his time spent in the wilds of the Underdark) would sum up his level in Barbarian.
Though we're first told about Drizzt's "Hunter" mode or persona in Exile, after his ten years in the wild, some sourcebooks have inferred that his battle rage was actually due to his being a drow:
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Personality: Outwardly calm and composed, Drizzt still has a burning rage with him, the legacy of his dark elven heritage. While he's mastered that side of his psyche--he refers to it as "the hunter"--it can still surface when Drizzt is hard pressed. (Heroes' Lorebook, p.45)
And the FRCS 3E listed his rage as a "Drow Trait".
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
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Posted - 03 Jan 2011 : 03:45:19
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Interesting. I could certainly see him with levels in this class. I used it myself for my drow bard. Makes for some truly devastating melee combat, though I must admit that wearing only a loincloth is NOT how my bard fights! (Though he might, if he knew there were ladies present, lol!)
BTW, Drizzt's "Hunter" aspect is indeed due to his prolonged stay in the wilds of the Underdark during Exile, not simply because he is a drow. The barbarian rage is really nothing like a dervish's dance, as the dance requires finesse to use effectively- something that a barbarian's rage is hardly well-suited to!! However, given Zaknafein's comment to Drizzt during their last fight before he left for the Academy, calling him a "dancer", the dervish PrC might actually fit his training under Zak quite well!! |
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Saxmilian
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 03 Jan 2011 : 22:50:37
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My personal version of Drizzt as of the Ghost King
level 22 (Rogue 4 Ranger 4 Fighter 2 Barbarian 2 Dervish 10). |
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Alystra Illianniis
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Crossed Arrows
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 04 Jan 2011 : 03:52:36
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| In the AD&D Menzoberannazan (sp?) box set, he had multiple Rogue abilities, including backstab, so it is a possibility. |
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Alystra Illianniis
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CNPenguin
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Posted - 08 Jan 2011 : 21:12:57
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| Hello all, this is actually my first post here. Personally, I always thought that maybe the Tempest prestige class (from Complete Adventurer) would be better suited for Drizzt? I always saw the Dervish as being a little...not fitting for him, I guess. Just a thought of mine. |
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Thalian
Acolyte
Canada
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Posted - 09 Jan 2011 : 19:26:55
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| What I found kind of disappointing was in the Ghost King, Drizzt makes a mental note to ask Danica about her fighting technique. It would be kind of interesting to see Drizzt merge his fighting style with that of Danica's. |
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