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Mace Hammerhand
Great Reader
Germany
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 Posted - 18 Jun 2009 : 22:48:37
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
So, eight people with brand new stuff are the reason the rest of us can't legally obtain digital copies of older stuff... 
Yea, legally is the thing here... driving the people to piracy cuz you can't purchase the old stuff... morons of the coast |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jun 2009 : 01:00:38
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We don't need those kind of statements, Mace. I know you're angry, but that's a little harsh. Remember, this is a public forum, and we should demonstrate a little respect -- especially when it comes to people and/or groups that we may disagree with.
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 28 Aug 2009 : 20:03:13
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An update on this, taken from ENworld's thread.
JohnRTroy posted:
"I have attached updated Zip files of the PDFs for this case. Here's a quick status summary report.
Thomas Patrick Nolan is taking it to trial, and representing himself Pro Se. The trial should come up in Summer/Fall, 2010. No word on the other guy.
Arthur Le who also represented himself Pro Se agreed to the penalty of $100,000.00. I think the co-consipirator has been declared "in default" because he has not responded.
The guys from Poland, no significant progress...so I didn't attach any documents for them."
I didn't post the links to the court docs though. |
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Quale
Master of Realmslore
1757 Posts |
Posted - 02 Sep 2009 : 10:10:21
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Originally posted by Ikki
I know that quite well, very few do visit.
Which is what my numbers are based upon. One does not pay for content on a website one does not visit in the first place at all!!!
Note that was all about ordering the DDI content.
According to the new wotc group thing, it seems there are the rough numbers, about 7000 DDi members (and slowly rising).
Is that enough profitable, probably not. |
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
2950 Posts |
Posted - 03 Sep 2009 : 20:08:45
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Originally posted by Quale
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Originally posted by Ikki
I know that quite well, very few do visit.
Which is what my numbers are based upon. One does not pay for content on a website one does not visit in the first place at all!!!
Note that was all about ordering the DDI content.
According to the new wotc group thing, it seems there are the rough numbers, about 7000 DDi members (and slowly rising).
Is that enough profitable, probably not.
That sounds terribly low, how many would you think they were counting on getting? |
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Quale
Master of Realmslore
1757 Posts |
Posted - 04 Sep 2009 : 07:37:43
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When you look at the profile of someone who has that red-white symbol (DDi insider) below their avatar then in the lower right corner there's a sidebar ''GROUPS'', and within it is a group D&D Insider, 7259 members at the moment,
I don't know about the old numbers. |
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Bakra
Senior Scribe
628 Posts |
Posted - 04 Sep 2009 : 12:31:06
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Originally posted by Quale
When you look at the profile of someone who has that red-white symbol (DDi insider) below their avatar then in the lower right corner there's a sidebar ''GROUPS'', and within it is a group D&D Insider, 7259 members at the moment,
I don't know about the old numbers.
By the rate the number is climbing I believe it is only counting those who have a DDI account that bother to log into the forums. If you have an account but don’t log in then you are never recorded. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Quale
Master of Realmslore
1757 Posts |
Posted - 04 Sep 2009 : 18:58:24
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Originally posted by Bakra
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Originally posted by Quale
When you look at the profile of someone who has that red-white symbol (DDi insider) below their avatar then in the lower right corner there's a sidebar ''GROUPS'', and within it is a group D&D Insider, 7259 members at the moment,
I don't know about the old numbers.
By the rate the number is climbing I believe it is only counting those who have a DDI account that bother to log into the forums. If you have an account but don’t log in then you are never recorded.
Probably, and a lot of people had problems reactivating the accounts. We'll see ...
Jorkens, don't know, maybe 100 000 would be acceptable for them. |
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore
Finland
1564 Posts |
Posted - 05 Sep 2009 : 02:43:09
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That number seems terribly low -- it's far, far less than what I would have estimated myself. Either the vast majority of DDI subscribers don't use a forum account, or DDI is doing horribly.
Regardless of the lower expenses for publishing digital content, I suspect even 50K wouldn't be enough to meet their expectations.
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
3247 Posts |
Posted - 05 Sep 2009 : 07:19:50
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| If it's a group in the 'new' forums, then the person has to have an account on the forums and choose to join that group. And, having just looked at the group, it's set to private, so you have to contact the owner of the group (wotc_youngs) about membership. I'm not sure if they have it set up to 'automatically' join up D&DI members who create a profile or not. |
I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
2950 Posts |
Posted - 05 Sep 2009 : 11:12:56
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| If these numbers are even near to correct, it will be interesting to see what grips Wizards will take to increase the membership. |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
3247 Posts |
Posted - 05 Sep 2009 : 18:50:58
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Also, don't forget that the group is a subset (D&DI Subscriber) of a subset (Forum member) of D&D players, so it in no way reflects anything on 4th Edition's popularity or how well it is selling.
There are around 7000 D&DI subscribers in a forum with almost 175,000 users. That's still a lot of people, and it doesn't take into account all those that play that have never subscribed to the forum. And on a side note, according to Candlekeep's member list, we have over 5000 members, so the pool of D&DI subscribers isn't too shabby... |
I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36876 Posts |
Posted - 05 Sep 2009 : 20:03:28
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Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart
Also, don't forget that the group is a subset (D&DI Subscriber) of a subset (Forum member) of D&D players, so it in no way reflects anything on 4th Edition's popularity or how well it is selling.
There are around 7000 D&DI subscribers in a forum with almost 175,000 users. That's still a lot of people, and it doesn't take into account all those that play that have never subscribed to the forum. And on a side note, according to Candlekeep's member list, we have over 5000 members, so the pool of D&DI subscribers isn't too shabby...
Yeah, but how many of those users are active? I'm at least one of their users, and I've not posted over there in 4 or 5 years. |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
3247 Posts |
Posted - 06 Sep 2009 : 06:54:04
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| 'Tis true, oh wooly one. How many of our 5000 are 'active'? That should give an idea of how many are active over there... |
I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
2950 Posts |
Posted - 06 Sep 2009 : 11:18:05
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart
How many of our 5000 are 'active'?
2919.
I always wondered why so many people registered without posting, why not just lurk? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 06 Sep 2009 : 11:28:55
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Originally posted by Jorkens
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart
How many of our 5000 are 'active'?
2919.
I always wondered why so many people registered without posting, why not just lurk?
I suppose it just strikes them at the moment, to register. Since you can't post without registering, some lurkers [no, not the Babylon 5 variety  ] might initially have an intention to contribute here.
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
2950 Posts |
Posted - 06 Sep 2009 : 11:37:24
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Jorkens
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart
How many of our 5000 are 'active'?
2919.
I always wondered why so many people registered without posting, why not just lurk?
I suppose it just strikes them at the moment, to register. Since you can't post without registering, some lurkers [no, not the Babylon 5 variety ] might initially have an intention to contribute here.
Oh, I can see that, but about half of the people registering is a large number don't you think? And I must admit that I have never wathced a single episode of Babylon 5 |
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore
Finland
1564 Posts |
Posted - 06 Sep 2009 : 23:36:05
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| It was confirmed on EnWorld by one of the WoTC forum guides that the real number of DDI subscribers is much higher; this number represents only those who have the forum account, and according to his WoTC sources that is only a fraction of the subscribers have it. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 07 Sep 2009 : 01:37:48
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Originally posted by Asgetrion
It was confirmed on EnWorld by one of the WoTC forum guides that the real number of DDI subscribers is much higher; this number represents only those who have the forum account, and according to his WoTC sources that is only a fraction of the subscribers have it.
I'd like to see some numbers, myself... 1/8 is a fraction, but so is 7/8. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 07 Sep 2009 : 02:05:38
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Originally posted by Jorkens
Oh, I can see that, but about half of the people registering is a large number don't you think?
Aye. Though it could also suggest that this forum is popular enough to have such a number for members.
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Edited by - The Sage on 07 Sep 2009 02:06:19 |
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Wizards has shut down a character sheet site.
