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Wrigs13
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Posted - 29 Jan 2009 :  20:33:36  Show Profile  Visit Wrigs13's Homepage Send Wrigs13 a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Hi,

The War Hulk prestige class has the No Time To Think ability, which states that int, wis & cha skills have effective ranks of 0, even if ranks have been previously bought in them.

Does this mean that a character that could previously use a trained only skill, such as knowledge dungeoneering, now can no longer use that skill at all, or can they still use the skill but with no bonus from ranks previously held?

What does everyone think?

I can feel an arguement brewing at my next session.

Cheers

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Kilvan
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Canada
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Posted - 29 Jan 2009 :  20:46:46  Show Profile Send Kilvan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't know that PrC. From which sourcebook does it come from? My guess would be that he can still use the skill, but with no bonus, but I'd like to read the class description to make sure.
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Wrigs13
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Posted - 29 Jan 2009 :  20:48:42  Show Profile  Visit Wrigs13's Homepage Send Wrigs13 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It comes from the miniatures handbook, bit obscure I know

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Kilvan
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Posted - 29 Jan 2009 :  21:30:58  Show Profile Send Kilvan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Here's how it works. He can still use any skill based on CHA, INT or WIS but he ONLY applies his attribute bonus to the roll. If he spent 10 points in diplomacy in earlier levels, it's gone. Intimidate is unaffected. The guy is a witless brute, not a PrC I'd use for a PC.
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Wrigs13
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Posted - 29 Jan 2009 :  21:33:47  Show Profile  Visit Wrigs13's Homepage Send Wrigs13 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I wouldn't either but you don't know my PC

This stacked on an Annis Hag with a Titan Bloodline!

Not so much roleplay more HULK SMASH!

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Wrigs13
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Posted - 29 Jan 2009 :  21:34:44  Show Profile  Visit Wrigs13's Homepage Send Wrigs13 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
But do you think this now means Trained Only skills become unuseable?

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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 29 Jan 2009 :  22:46:54  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Trained only means that you have to have at least a half-rank in the skill to be able to use it (Jack of All Trades gives you a 'virtual' half-rank in all skills so you can use them). The War Hulk class removes all ranks, so it means that he can no longer use those skills.

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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