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Nicolai Withander
Master of Realmslore
Denmark
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 Posted - 23 Jan 2009 : 01:26:01
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Im trying to compile some information on where to get ubscure knowledge. Churches and libraries and such. Could anyone please tell me where to go and how to get access to these places?
THX
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Ghost King
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 23 Jan 2009 : 01:40:47
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Originally posted by Nicolai Withander
Im trying to compile some information on where to get ubscure knowledge. Churches and libraries and such. Could anyone please tell me where to go and how to get access to these places?
THX
To state first and foremost, Candlekeep as the primary library of all records. Others close to it would be Myth Drannor and Evermeet that have a solid amount of lore. Oghma's church another good source. Cormyr's Suzail perhaps as well as the City of Shade. I'd say Thay would be dotted with libraries containing obscure knowledge as well as Aglorand, Mulhorand, Unther and Halruaa. And possibly the Great Rift has a library or three. And if you were willing to dare certain dangers in the Land of Intrigue you might find forgotten lore buried in ruins or in those great cities down there.
The island nation of Lantan might be full of knowledge, but Waterdeep and Silverymoon would definitely have something as well. And Waterdeep is the place where Volo's printing press resides so I'm sure if you read one of Volo's guides you'd learn some obscure details there. I'm sure other scribes here could give more detailed information of locations or expand upon what I've already given. Good luck with your endeavor. |
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ErskineF
Learned Scribe
USA
330 Posts |
Posted - 23 Jan 2009 : 02:25:21
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Originally posted by Ghost King
Waterdeep and Silverymoon would definitely have something as well.
Specifically (but not exhaustively)...
Waterdeep:
New Olamm -- bards' college
The Watchful Order of Magists and Protectors -- mages' guild
The Font of Oghma -- Temple of Oghma
Silverymoon:
The Lady's College -- Wizards' college
The Vault of the Sages -- largest library in the North
Utrumm's Music Conservatory -- collection of written music
Everdusk Hall -- Elven temple with genealogies, poetry, records, and philosophy of the elves. |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 23 Jan 2009 : 03:08:38
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Anauroch: Empire of Shade listed some good sources for the adventurers to research the location of the Terraseer. I figure they're also good for other kinds of research.
Candlekeep (of course)
Mount Talath in Halruaa
Spellgard in the Fallen Lands (western edge of Anauroch)
The also mention the Host Tower Arcane, the College of Wizards of Cormyr and Telbran Nelarn of Waterdeep. |
I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.
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Gray Richardson
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 23 Jan 2009 : 05:32:34
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Hidden in the Earthfast Mountains is the Iron Dragon Mountain temple to Deneir which is overseen by Librarian Supreme Haliduth Orspriir. Deneir's temples send copies of all their best written documents to this library for safe keeping, it's sort of Deneir's Library of Congress. This is also where Deneir's priests try to reconstruct the metatext.
Deneir's Glyphscribes keep one copy of every missive they record and once a year (on the 3rd of Ches) turn over a bundle of their most interesting copies to their local temple. So any temple of Deneir should be a fount of written knowledge. |
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Rhewtani
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 23 Jan 2009 : 15:59:59
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Pre 1372(?) The Temple of Deneir in Tilverton is a decent place, it's mentioned as being a good source of informaiton in Curse of the Azure Bonds.
In a campaign I played in (which had spanned over a decade or so), the PCs actions had some ramifications for us in Tilverton during that adventure.
One PC had been running an Obarskyr (a prince Xanatos), for several years. For one reason or another (mainly because of how young they were when they started running the realms), the DM had moved some timeline stuff around and Curse didn't get run until 1369.
Well, earlier ... when the hordes of dragonspear had become a problem, the Prince had intervened there along with some of his allies. He couldn't rightly drag Cormyr into a war, so he took his personal guard "100 cavalry or so" with him on a trip to visit his friends there. Among the retinue, he also included a sage - a Filani of Tantras. For one reason or another, she ended up dead.
Fast forward 2 years of real time. A different adventuring group (each player had 4-5 characters most of the time, different weeks would mean different adventuring groups, some based on who could or couldn't make that game), ran through Curse. They get to Tilverton and the adventure says ... "the PCs can speak to Filani of Tantras."
To which, one astute player commented ... "But only if they're a cleric."
That reminds me: Morasha and Larlock have decent sized libraries, too. |
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IngoDjan
Learned Scribe
Brazil
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Posted - 23 Jan 2009 : 18:06:16
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Ingo Djan
DUNGEON MASTER AO OF THE DIAMONDS!"I see the future repeat the past. It all is a museum of great news. The Time do not stop." |
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Nicolai Withander
Master of Realmslore
Denmark
1093 Posts |
Posted - 23 Jan 2009 : 23:11:32
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Thanks for all the great responces... and keep them comming.
Its great! |
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Jamallo Kreen
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 17 Feb 2009 : 04:22:34
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There's an old thread with much detailed information about many of these places (and others). If the "Search" function here is choosing to work, it should lead one to that thread.
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maglaurus
Acolyte
Canada
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Posted - 24 Feb 2009 : 05:08:05
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I would think that a city of any size might possess at least one source of rare or forbidden lore. By this, I mean that in any temple of Oghma or Deneir, as well as any library or other secular storehouse of knowledge, there might be book bound in black leather (or the flesh of some sentient being) containing dark lore. It might be tucked away on a dusty shelf, hidden beneath a loose floorboard, or chained shut and sitting atop a marble pedestal surrounded by wards in a vault with a secret door.
You can use the H.P. Lovecraft and the Call of Cthulhu rpg for models of where to keep obscure lore. Private libraries of wealthy cultists are great sources for example, as are bookshops, binder, cartography, and print shops. You might also consider eccentric mages that collect for the sake of collecting; despite the fact it might destroy them or others. As long as it's ancient and forbidden they have to have and they'll hire anyone to complete the task. Good obscure lore infects everyone through whose hands it passes. You might seek a particular book, only to find it missing and have to follow the bloody trail it leaves between its previous location and its new owner.
Just some thoughts... |
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Jimbobx
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 24 Feb 2009 : 15:48:40
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Candlekeep is one of the 'big four' (listed on pg. 55 of F&A), the others being The Master's Library (already mentioned by Gray), the Library of Curna, and the Great Librarries of Shou-Lung.
There is also (supposedly) a 'secret' 5th member of that elite group - an exact duplicate (in books, anyway) of Candlekeep hidden somewhere, in the event of a catastrophe (at Candlekeep).
I personally suspect that it is the Library of Perpustakaan hidden in the Larang Valleys (midway between kara-Tur and Zakhara, just east of the Sempadan Jungle). That library has the entire accurate history of the Shou Empire since it's beginning, which retro-actively means it includes stuff about Imaskar (now that we know about Anok-Imaskar). Somehow the library is kept up-to-date, even though the Shou Empire itself has long-forgotten about this resource. This means there is probably some group maintaining it, which is why I make the assumption that the Monks of Candlekeep may have taken over that duty. Considering that the Shou Histories themselves are the TRUE versions, rather then the official ones that have been re-written numerous times, that makes this library more precise then the aforementioned Great Libraries of Shou-Lung, which are considered one the 'Big Four'. You can even find accurate information about the gods here - something that even temple libraries cannot claim.
And as long as I have dipped into the east, I need mention the Herald of Mei Lung (2e's Book of Artifacts has the complete write-up), a massive tome which resides in Tabot, and 'magically' records evrything that has EVER happened in the world! Maybe not as helpful as a full library, but it could still provide a reader with enough information about something to perhaps discover it's current whereabouts. For instance, if you wanted to know about a certain spell, you wouldn't get the spell itself or much in the way of a description, but you would get a listing of who created it and when.
Edit: I almost forgot - Spirit Soaring - a temple of Deneir in the Snowflake Mountains. The original temple (who's name escapes me) was dedicated to multiple gods of learning, and had a wonderful library. The newly rebuilt temple, I am sure, has a library at least as good as the original, and probably much more complete, since this temple has become THE major cathedral of faith to Deneir.
Edit2: The original name was the Edificant Library (very appropriate for this thread), and was dedicated to both Deneir and Oghma. |
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Herkles
Seeker
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Posted - 24 Feb 2009 : 17:03:44
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Temples in general would have libraries IMO, Some like oghma and denir are more likely to have big and extensive libraries but all temples would have a small section dedicated to books, mostly related on religion of the deity but other things could be there as well, ie a temple to lolth might have several volumes of different breeds of spiders, a temple to Chuantea might have books dedicated to planting and the like.
I hope this helps. |
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