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deusex2
Acolyte
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Posted - 14 Oct 2009 : 19:28:49
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quote: Originally posted by The Hooded One
Hi again, all. Deusex2, Anchorome was never a "joke dungeon," nor intended to be. It is the center of a web of myths and sailors' tall tales to mainland Faerunians, yes. Some other designers than Ed created a continent north of Maztica and called it Anchorome, but that could well have been a "mainlander Faerunian" mistake or even deliberate misinformation put forward by elves of Evermeet or merchant shipcaptains of Baldur's Gate or others, to paint a false picture of "what was over the waves" for those back in Faerun. When it comes to the Realms, I'd trust Ed over all other sources. It is, after all, his creation, predating the Dungeons and Dragons game and all of its publishers, competitors, editions, and incarnations. love, THO
Now I see. Thank you very much for clarifying this matter.
This, however brings me to another question, rather to anybody, but Ed Greenwood. Was there any information published about lands north of Maztica and if there was any, which books should I be looking for? |
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Thauramarth
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
729 Posts |
Posted - 14 Oct 2009 : 23:15:33
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quote: Originally posted by deusex2 This, however brings me to another question, rather to anybody, but Ed Greenwood. Was there any information published about lands north of Maztica and if there was any, which books should I be looking for?
Quick reply - there is a short reference to the coastlands north of core Maztica in FR15 - Gold and Glory; there is some detail about the lands immediately north of core Maztica in FMQ1-City of Gold, bot of which can still be downloaded for free from this Previous Editions Download Page on the Wizards website. As far as I know, nothing else has been published on the area, which is pretty much outside the core of a part of the setting that was already far outside the core to begin with.
If you are looking for something non-Realms specific that could be put in place, David Howery wrote an article called "The People: Add fantasy Americans to your campaign" in Dragon Magazine 205. Although not Realms-specific, David made allowances for adding his "fantasy Nort America" to MAztica, and drafted his map in such a way that it could line up easily with the official maps of Maztica as they existed at the time. |
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deusex2
Acolyte
7 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2009 : 00:03:11
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quote: Originally posted by Thauramarth
quote: Originally posted by deusex2 This, however brings me to another question, rather to anybody, but Ed Greenwood. Was there any information published about lands north of Maztica and if there was any, which books should I be looking for?
Quick reply - there is a short reference to the coastlands north of core Maztica in FR15 - Gold and Glory; there is some detail about the lands immediately north of core Maztica in FMQ1-City of Gold, bot of which can still be downloaded for free from this Previous Editions Download Page on the Wizards website. As far as I know, nothing else has been published on the area, which is pretty much outside the core of a part of the setting that was already far outside the core to begin with.
If you are looking for something non-Realms specific that could be put in place, David Howery wrote an article called "The People: Add fantasy Americans to your campaign" in Dragon Magazine 205. Although not Realms-specific, David made allowances for adding his "fantasy Nort America" to MAztica, and drafted his map in such a way that it could line up easily with the official maps of Maztica as they existed at the time.
I see, thank you very much. |
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Bahgtru
Acolyte
29 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2009 : 01:54:51
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Dear Ed and THO,
Is Duke Eltan's success as leader of the Flaming Fist equal parts based on his physical prowess as a warrior and administrative and tactical abilities? Did he become a ruling Duke of Baldur's Gate independently of his success with the Flaming Fist or did one drive the other? As he and Piergeiron are both warriors cast into administrators of vibrant cities, how would you compare and contrast their leadership styles and how they are viewed by the citizens of their respective cities? How is Duke Eltan viewed by other rulers in the Lord's Alliance? Does he ever use the Flaming Fist in a non-for profit scenario, i.e aiding another city in the Lord's Alliance?
Thank you in advance and Happy Thanksgiving! |
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Kyrene
Senior Scribe
South Africa
757 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2009 : 08:53:44
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Ed and/or THO and/or others,
Running through my notes on notable NPCs in Neverwinter, I came accross this little throwaway comment concerning Alasturan Malatheer: “Elminster refuses to do more than smilingly muse about what a formidable foe a song dragon wizard who retained his magecraft in gold dragon form would be—and then adds enigmatically that Mystra would almost have to take a personal interest in such an individual.” Is/was he a Chosen of Mystra, or have I just run into an NDA wall at high speed? |
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arry
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
317 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2009 : 11:39:22
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quote: Originally posted by The Hooded One
Now, arry, that would be TELLING. I'm actually a bit more "counter" than proactive, if you catch my drift. And men who can catch my drift are purrrrrfectly exciting, BTW. love, THO
You're a sexy spycatcher lady?
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Zandilar
Learned Scribe
Australia
313 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2009 : 12:48:28
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Heya,
quote: Originally posted by Kyrene Running through my notes on notable NPCs in Neverwinter, I came accross this little throwaway comment concerning Alasturan Malatheer: “Elminster refuses to do more than smilingly muse about what a formidable foe a song dragon wizard who retained his magecraft in gold dragon form would be—and then adds enigmatically that Mystra would almost have to take a personal interest in such an individual.” Is/was he a Chosen of Mystra, or have I just run into an NDA wall at high speed?
Hmm... I was under the impression that all song dragons appeared female... Obviously I was mistaken! I might have to go look it up... *rummages around through her books, then comes back to the keyboard* It seems I wasn't mistaken... Quoting Monsters of Faerun: Song Dragons are a rare and mysterious race of dragons that prefer life among humanity to the company of other dragons. They can freely take on the form of a human woman, and in this guise they live among humankind, revealing their true nature only in times of personal peril or great crisis. (Bolding mine for emphasis!)
Furthermore, it goes on to describe the song dragon's draconic appearance (iridescent silver-blue scales!), which really doesn't bear any resemblance to any other type of dragon.
Therefore, I must conclude that Alasturan Malatheer, is most likely a Gold Dragon... Or else MoF is completely wrong.
Curiosity prompts me to ask (if MoF is right) - are song dragons actually all female? And if so, how do they reproduce? I'd assume with humans, and that some children grow into dragons as they age, some might be half dragons, and others might just be human. |
Zandilar ~amor vincit omnia~ ~audaces fortuna iuvat~
As the spell ends, you look up into the sky to see the sun blazing overhead like noon in a desert. Then something else in the sky catches your attention. Turning your gaze, you see a tawny furred kitten bounding across the sky towards the new sun. Her eyes glint a mischevious green as she pounces on it as if it were nothing but a colossal ball of golden yarn. With quick strokes of her paws, it is batted across the sky, back and forth. Then with a wink the kitten and the sun disappear, leaving the citizens of Elversult gazing up with amazed expressions that quickly turn into chortles and mirth.
The Sunlord left Elversult the same day in humilitation, and was never heard from again. |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
5056 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2009 : 20:59:07
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Hi again, all. Bahgtru recently asked: "Dear Ed and THO, Is Duke Eltan's success as leader of the Flaming Fist equal parts based on his physical prowess as a warrior and administrative and tactical abilities? Did he become a ruling Duke of Baldur's Gate independently of his success with the Flaming Fist or did one drive the other? As he and Piergeiron are both warriors cast into administrators of vibrant cities, how would you compare and contrast their leadership styles and how they are viewed by the citizens of their respective cities? How is Duke Eltan viewed by other rulers in the Lord's Alliance? Does he ever use the Flaming Fist in a non-for profit scenario, i.e aiding another city in the Lord's Alliance? Thank you in advance and Happy Thanksgiving!" You're welcome, Bahgtru, and thanks for the festive good wishes. Drawing on Ed's notes, I can tell you that Duke Eltan's success is rooted in the fact that he's both a capable, VERY-quick-witted battlefield leader and a shrewd, far-sighted scholar of human nature and successful political manipulation. His success with the Flaming Fist, and his ability to use them to keep order in the city at critical times, definitely drove his rise to rulership. Eltan is viewed as far colder and more ruthless (and less tolerant of dissent) than Piergeiron, but they are both respected as fair, smart rulers and capable warriors, personally free from corruption and disliking it in others. The Flaming Fist has been used in not-for-profit ways in the past, yes; I'll leave longer and more detailed replies to Ed. love, THO |
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Baleful Avatar
Learned Scribe
Canada
161 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2009 : 21:04:08
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Dear Ed and THO, Are there any "social magazines" printed and distributed among the nobles of Cormyr or Waterdeep? If so, names and prices per issue and how often published, please? And if so, can courtiers and wannabe nobles subscribe, or are they "exclusive"? How intelligible would they be to a non-noble, or are they all written in jargon and "we all know Fancypancy's predelictions" "in" gossip? Thanks! |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
5056 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2009 : 21:11:47
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Hi again, all! BA, such magazines do indeed exist; off your queries go to Ed for his replies. arry, I'll catch up with you later. Kyrene, you sure did. And the wall hasn't budged an inch. And Zandilar, you've spotted a WotC shift in how they viewed song dragons (the former "weredragons" of Ed-lore): initially (MoF) female-only, later seen as both genders with males VERY rare, for the very "how does the species reproduce, then?" reasons you bring up. Ed explained this discrepancy away by saying they all have the ability to take human female form, and are cross-fertile with humans when operating as females, but some of them use spells to APPEAR as human males for certain times, either out of preference or for business or personal mission reasons. So the male human is actually a magically-disguised human female who is really a song dragon in its only "natural" human form. Myself, I share Ed's preference: that they'd stuck with weredragons all along, by all means revamping them for 3e if they wanted to do so, but thinking through such basics as species reproduction before writing up "official" rules. Sigh. love to all, THO |
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althen artren
Senior Scribe
USA
780 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2009 : 22:04:30
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A quote from Elminster in Elminster in Hell comes to mind with this page and the Hooded One's profession. Vangey and Luse: condensed: Luse: Armor is supposed to be tight, men come at me with swords and daggers. Vangey: They are the smart ones. (of course referencing Luse tendency to bed all of her personal noble son followers.)
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uaintjak
Acolyte
14 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2009 : 23:28:55
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Was Espar ever written up anywhere? I'd be interested in seeing the village the senior Knights started in. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 16 Oct 2009 : 01:01:27
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quote: Originally posted by uaintjak
Was Espar ever written up anywhere? I'd be interested in seeing the village the senior Knights started in.
Volo's Guide to Cormyr has some tidbits, as does Ed's Swords of Eveningstar novel. There's some brief bits in both the 1e and 2e FR boxed sets, Haunted Halls of Eveningstar, and Ed's '05 Candlekeep replies as well.
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Kyrene
Senior Scribe
South Africa
757 Posts |
Posted - 16 Oct 2009 : 09:45:59
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quote: Originally posted by The Hooded One
Kyrene, you sure did. And the wall hasn't budged an inch. love to all, THO
I'll take that as a "Yes, maybe" rather than a "No, definately not" then. Is there anything Ed can tell us about Alasturan Malatheer that has not already been published and would not be behind that wall? Yes, I'm keeping it purposely vague, and so can be whatever Ed can reply with. A single word of lore is still 'more lore' afterall. |
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Zandilar
Learned Scribe
Australia
313 Posts |
Posted - 16 Oct 2009 : 12:49:46
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Heya,
quote: Originally posted by The Hooded One And Zandilar, you've spotted a WotC shift in how they viewed song dragons (the former "weredragons" of Ed-lore): initially (MoF) female-only, later seen as both genders with males VERY rare, for the very "how does the species reproduce, then?" reasons you bring up. Ed explained this discrepancy away by saying they all have the ability to take human female form, and are cross-fertile with humans when operating as females, but some of them use spells to APPEAR as human males for certain times, either out of preference or for business or personal mission reasons. So the male human is actually a magically-disguised human female who is really a song dragon in its only "natural" human form. Myself, I share Ed's preference: that they'd stuck with weredragons all along, by all means revamping them for 3e if they wanted to do so, but thinking through such basics as species reproduction before writing up "official" rules. Sigh. love to all, THO
I am not really sure what I want to say to that. I'm quite happy with the concept of a magical species that is monogendered and has to mate outside the species to reproduce. (We are talking about magic here!* Anything is possible!)
Where would I find stats for the original Were-dragon (I probably have 2nd Edition stats hanging around somewhere but goodness knows where!)? Or were they never published? If not, what are the main differences between Song Dragons and were-dragons? Was MoF accurate, were they only female?
* Even Nature is more varied than some would have us believe. |
Zandilar ~amor vincit omnia~ ~audaces fortuna iuvat~
As the spell ends, you look up into the sky to see the sun blazing overhead like noon in a desert. Then something else in the sky catches your attention. Turning your gaze, you see a tawny furred kitten bounding across the sky towards the new sun. Her eyes glint a mischevious green as she pounces on it as if it were nothing but a colossal ball of golden yarn. With quick strokes of her paws, it is batted across the sky, back and forth. Then with a wink the kitten and the sun disappear, leaving the citizens of Elversult gazing up with amazed expressions that quickly turn into chortles and mirth.
The Sunlord left Elversult the same day in humilitation, and was never heard from again. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 16 Oct 2009 : 14:22:06
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quote: Originally posted by Zandilar
Where would I find stats for the original Were-dragon (I probably have 2nd Edition stats hanging around somewhere but goodness knows where!)? Or were they never published? If not, what are the main differences between Song Dragons and were-dragons? Was MoF accurate, were they only female?
I believe that the weredragon was first published in Dragon 134 -- in a 1E article. And in that article, they were all female. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 16 Oct 2009 : 14:43:07
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quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote: Originally posted by Zandilar
Where would I find stats for the original Were-dragon (I probably have 2nd Edition stats hanging around somewhere but goodness knows where!)? Or were they never published? If not, what are the main differences between Song Dragons and were-dragons? Was MoF accurate, were they only female?
I believe that the weredragon was first published in Dragon 134 -- in a 1E article. And in that article, they were all female.
Yep. And this has all been covered before, in a previous version of Ed's replies. If you search the archives, Zandilar, you should find Ed's earlier replies. |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
5056 Posts |
Posted - 16 Oct 2009 : 19:23:30
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uaintjak, I can ask Ed for his "handy" Espar notes, if you'd like. The published lore has been pretty slim. love, THO |
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Icelander
Master of Realmslore
1864 Posts |
Posted - 16 Oct 2009 : 20:18:08
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quote: Originally posted by The Hooded One
uaintjak, I can ask Ed for his "handy" Espar notes, if you'd like. The published lore has been pretty slim. love, THO
If he has any handy Esparin notes, that would be great.
You know, stuff on where the original settlers came from, how the culture differed from modern Cormyrean (and Cormyrean at that time), any famous heroes of the realm and famous monarchs.
Basically, stuff that could be useful for portraying a border marcher Cormyrean who proudly retains some of his Esparinnar cultural roots. |
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gomez
Learned Scribe
Netherlands
254 Posts |
Posted - 16 Oct 2009 : 21:26:47
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quote: Originally posted by Zandilar
Heya, I am not really sure what I want to say to that. I'm quite happy with the concept of a magical species that is monogendered and has to mate outside the species to reproduce.
That's one thing I like about (4thed) Lamia's (I really dislike the 3rd ed version). They should have kept medusae one-gendered as wel. |
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Bahgtru
Acolyte
29 Posts |
Posted - 17 Oct 2009 : 03:49:42
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To THO and ED,
Thank you for the reply to my last request. The next one may seem strange. I just finished watching an ESPN MetRX World's Strongest Man competition.
If such a competition were held in say Waterdeep during shieldmeet, who would the top entrants be? If it is possible, could you provide what city or nation they hail from and what their vocation or background is? Also who might the favorites might be?
Thank you in advance.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 17 Oct 2009 : 06:34:12
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quote: Originally posted by Bahgtru
To THO and ED,
Thank you for the reply to my last request. The next one may seem strange. I just finished watching an ESPN MetRX World's Strongest Man competition.
If such a competition were held in say Waterdeep during shieldmeet, who would the top entrants be? If it is possible, could you provide what city or nation they hail from and what their vocation or background is? Also who might the favorites might be?
Thank you in advance.
My minotaur, Takkus Gal-Zon, would be an entrant. Not sure what his 3.x strength would be, but in 2E, he had a 20 strength. He and his friends are co-owners of a Waterdhavian inn, now, and he doubles as a bouncer. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 17 Oct 2009 : 06:48:56
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I had a minotaur bouncer once, too, in Sigil. The Fest Halls were never the same. Of course, he had a "stake" in the earnings of the place [which, ironically, was forged of wood -- a piece of which the minotaur used as a weapon to guard entry against malcontents], so he *retired* from official bouncer duties and instead began tending bar.
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Anyways, Ed, I shot off a quick email to you. Just wondering whether it came through intact?
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 17 Oct 2009 : 14:36:52
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There's also a minotaur bouncer in canon lore, in the Moonsea product. His name is Thud, and he runs an inn in Thentia.
Takk was an actual PC of mine; I imported him into the Realms as an NPC, built an adventuring group around him, and had them eventually settle in Waterdeep (because there's no place better in the Realms! ). They collectively bought an inn, but they don't run it themselves -- they hired someone else to do that. They just enjoy the profits and have a place to relax and drink for free.
...And I've been trying to think of a name for that place for a long time. I think it finally came to me, just now.
And now back to your regularly scheduled thread. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 17 Oct 2009 : 15:34:38
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Ed, I've since sent a follow-up email, that largely continues on from the previous one. But if the earlier message didn't come through, then this second one is unlikely to make much sense.
I'll await your reply before sending the first email again.
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Bahgtru
Acolyte
29 Posts |
Posted - 17 Oct 2009 : 15:40:39
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One of my favorite gaming experiences was adventuring in a group of young, slightly cocky treasure seekers from the Dalelands. We heard through a Cormyrean merchant selling an ancient elven blade that some ancient ruins in the King's Forest of Cormyr housed treasures of an abandoned Elven enclave from earlier times.
To make a long story short, after several days of searching and finding everything but the Elven ruins, we decided to reprovision in Waymoot. Of the six of us, who all tended to the arrogance of youth, a certain boisterous ranger in our group got carried away with a serving wench at the Silver Wink in Waymoot.
Of course the many rounds of Ale literally and figuratively did not help to temper the situation. When a middle aged man who was so large and wide he had to duck and turn sideways to enter the Tavern asked us to leave, our good friend did us the great disservice of calling him a misbegotten son of a firbolg hag that should be snoozing in front of a fire somewhere, and proceeded to plant a kiss on the serving girl.
The next morning we all awoke, some miles out of town and quite sore, bruised, and black and blue. We all had vague memories of the earth turning upside down and flying out the tavern and careening off a building on the other side of the street but the note found on Rodrik, our lovable, loud mouthed friend cleared up the remainder of the night.
To the young whelps,
While my sensibilies and sensitivities are able to withstand the indesretion of youth, such is not the case for the young lasses of Waymoot. I trust I did not cause any permanent damage but left you with a reminder that will last a few days about the prudence of harnessing your vigor and ambitions, respecting your elders, and the prudence of good manners.
You will find your gear, in a depression 100 yards off the road to the East covered by plucked folliage. Please gather it and be on your way. When or if you learned the lesson I hope I imparted, please feel free to enjoy the hospitality of our town.
The misbegotten son of a Firbolg hag,
Lord Filfar Woodbrand
After that experience, Filfar would be on my list. It was a brief encounter but one that we laughed about for some time. We also learned the importance of the great Volothamp's local research, sorrily after the fact. The DM appreciated Volo's work and got a good laugh out of it. |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
5056 Posts |
Posted - 17 Oct 2009 : 16:07:20
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Hi again, all. Sage, Ed hasn't - - yet, anyway - - received EITHER of the e-mails you sent. At all, in any form. He promises to keep me posted and let me know right away when he does, so I can tell you, AS WELL AS replying directly to you, himself. We'll figure out these Net grmelins yet. love, THO |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 17 Oct 2009 : 16:36:00
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Aye. It's a problem on my end. Apparently, some new sub-routines I added to SageBrowser have been causing conflicts with my posting techniques. It'll register a post or message, but won't actually carry that post or message to the next stage. Curious.
The messages have undoubtedly been lost, so it looks like I'll have to re-compose and re-send.
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Blueblade
Senior Scribe
USA
804 Posts |
Posted - 17 Oct 2009 : 16:40:20
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Dear Ed and THO, Another Realmslore question. This time regarding falconry in Cormyr: outside of nobles' households, how many falconers (breeders, tamers, tenders of sick or injured birds, sellers of birds, etc.) can be found in the realm, that commoners and outlanders can readily do business with? Some names and reputations? Thanks! BB |
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uaintjak
Acolyte
14 Posts |
Posted - 17 Oct 2009 : 18:09:03
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quote: Originally posted by The Hooded One
uaintjak, I can ask Ed for his "handy" Espar notes, if you'd like. The published lore has been pretty slim. love, THO
That would be great, thanks! |
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