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Alisttair
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 Posted - 02 Dec 2008 : 14:42:57
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I don't have access to my books at the moment, but does anyone know if and where Undrentide has been detailed anywhere other than in the video game? I'm thinking about fleshing it out (Pre-Fall of Netheril).
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Karsite Arcanar (Most Holy Servant of Karsus)
Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me:
http://www.dmsguild.com/m/product/172023 |
Edited by - Alisttair on 02 Dec 2008 14:43:43
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Kilvan
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 02 Dec 2008 : 15:16:04
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Originally posted by Alisttair
I don't have access to my books at the moment, but does anyone know if and where Undrentide has been detailed anywhere other than in the video game? I'm thinking about fleshing it out (Pre-Fall of Netheril).
I might be wrong about this, but I don't think that Undrentide was covered in any previous FR lore. For all we know (in case you didn't play the game), It was one the the flying city of Netheril, one of the three I think. It crashed and buried in Anauroch, then it's Mythallar faded. A medusa then used an artifact (can't remember what it was) to re-activate the Mythallar (and I think she turned into a lich at the same time), and then made the city fly again, only to fall again after she got killed.
I would be greatly interested if you found any additionnal lore, since I use the Shadovar alot in my current campaign.
I used Undrentide's ruins in one of my campaign, but I mostly used the info I got from the game, and the rest I just made it up. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 02 Dec 2008 : 15:29:42
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Originally posted by Alisttair
I don't have access to my books at the moment, but does anyone know if and where Undrentide has been detailed anywhere other than in the video game? I'm thinking about fleshing it out (Pre-Fall of Netheril).
We know that Undrentide existed in the official Realms as per GHotR. Everythiing else that we know about it comes from the game (the locale was created for the game). |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Edited by - Rinonalyrna Fathomlin on 02 Dec 2008 15:30:24 |
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Lord Karsus
Great Reader
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Posted - 02 Dec 2008 : 15:39:16
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
We know that Undrentide existed in the official Realms as per GHotR. Everythiing else that we know about it comes from the game (the locale was created for the game).
-Yup. The only thing about the canon Undrentide is that existed as a High Netherese enclave, on the location the map of Netheril in AGHotR indicates. Anything else is not official. That said, of course, in cases like this, I find we have to rely on the games for information. No other information out there exists for Undrentide. Until something new (and official) pops up, all we can base things on is the video game. |
(A Tri-Partite Arcanist Who Has Forgotten More Than Most Will Ever Know)
Elves of Faerūn
Vol I- The Elves of Faerūn
Vol. III- Spells of the Elves
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 02 Dec 2008 : 15:40:21
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Karsite Arcanar (Most Holy Servant of Karsus)
Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me:
http://www.dmsguild.com/m/product/172023 |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 03 Dec 2008 : 16:26:41
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It's not a bad game. I played it a long while back, but IIRC you probably won't find that much in the game about the actual history of the place. I think you'll find that there's plenty of room to make up your own lore. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Kilvan
Senior Scribe
Canada
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Posted - 03 Dec 2008 : 17:18:38
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 03 Dec 2008 : 18:41:53
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
It's not a bad game. I played it a long while back, but IIRC you probably won't find that much in the game about the actual history of the place. I think you'll find that there's plenty of room to make up your own lore.
Which will be perfect. In a way, it'll make it a lot easier. Hopefully I can squeeze it in a Candlekeep Compendium at some point even... |
Karsite Arcanar (Most Holy Servant of Karsus)
Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me:
http://www.dmsguild.com/m/product/172023 |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 04 Dec 2008 : 01:34:52
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Originally posted by Kilvan
I think that you meet the tortured soul of Karsus at some time, that was cool. IIRC, it "confirmed" my theory that Karsus wasn't evil, he was just overconfident and loved the power, like any wizard. He miscalculated and things got out of hand (waaay out of hand in fact).
Eh...I don't think you meet the Karsus, but rather the conception of him used in the "religious argument" book you come across in the ruins. Just like how you meet the characters in a romance novel you also find--none of them are "real" people. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
Edited by - Rinonalyrna Fathomlin on 04 Dec 2008 01:35:21 |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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7106 Posts |
Posted - 04 Dec 2008 : 01:35:51
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Originally posted by Alisttair
Which will be perfect. In a way, it'll make it a lot easier. Hopefully I can squeeze it in a Candlekeep Compendium at some point even...
Good luck with that. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Lord Karsus
Great Reader
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3740 Posts |
Posted - 04 Dec 2008 : 01:41:32
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Originally posted by Kilvan
I must say that of all NWN games/expansion, it's the one I enjoyed the less. It's still worth finishing. I think that you meet the tortured soul of Karsus at some time, that was cool. IIRC, it "confirmed" my theory that Karsus wasn't evil, he was just overconfident and loved the power, like any wizard. He miscalculated and things got out of hand (waaay out of hand in fact).
-Confirmed? It's already canon that I'm CN. |
(A Tri-Partite Arcanist Who Has Forgotten More Than Most Will Ever Know)
Elves of Faerūn
Vol I- The Elves of Faerūn
Vol. III- Spells of the Elves
Vol. VI- Mechanical Compendium |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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7106 Posts |
Posted - 04 Dec 2008 : 02:04:10
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"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Alisttair
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Lord Karsus
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Alisttair
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Kilvan
Senior Scribe
Canada
894 Posts |
Posted - 04 Dec 2008 : 13:01:00
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Originally posted by Dagnirion
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Originally posted by Kilvan
I must say that of all NWN games/expansion, it's the one I enjoyed the less. It's still worth finishing. I think that you meet the tortured soul of Karsus at some time, that was cool. IIRC, it "confirmed" my theory that Karsus wasn't evil, he was just overconfident and loved the power, like any wizard. He miscalculated and things got out of hand (waaay out of hand in fact).
-Confirmed? It's already canon that I'm CN.
I did not know his stats/alignment were canon somewhere. From which source? I felt that considering what he's done (Karsus's Folly, killing a goddess and destroying a kingdom and countless of lives) it was only left to the gamer to ASSUME that he was evil. As a DM, that's how I picture him in the general opinion, but a few sages (only a handful) know better (more N, or CN).
Damn, and I thought I was clever in my assumptions  .
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 04 Dec 2008 : 13:36:17
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| Pretty sure it says so in "Winds of Netheril" in the Netheril boxed set that he is CN (which makes sense based on how he acts). |
Karsite Arcanar (Most Holy Servant of Karsus)
Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me:
http://www.dmsguild.com/m/product/172023 |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 04 Dec 2008 : 14:06:57
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Originally posted by Kilvan
I did not know his stats/alignment were canon somewhere. From which source?
It's in the Netheril boxed set, which is free from the Wizards downloads page. It's specifically on page 116 of the pdf, or page 114 of the Winds of Netheril book. |
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Kilvan
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Posted - 04 Dec 2008 : 14:12:00
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Great, thank you. I'll check it out as soon as I get back from work (I know, I should not lurk in forums instead of working).  |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
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Posted - 04 Dec 2008 : 15:49:34
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Originally posted by Kilvan
(I know, I should not lurk in forums instead of working).
I have that problem too  |
Karsite Arcanar (Most Holy Servant of Karsus)
Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me:
http://www.dmsguild.com/m/product/172023 |
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NWN - SoU - Undrentide Details?
