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Tyranthraxus
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Posted - 14 Oct 2008 :  12:23:14  Show Profile  Visit Tyranthraxus's Homepage Send Tyranthraxus a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
While I was doing some research on Tyranthraxus I found a very interesting contradiction.

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Cloak & Dagger, pg 152 states:
Just beyond the last rise west of the city lies a ring of seven hillocks. Atop each hill is a ring of standing stones, a shrine to one of the Seven Lost Gods....
...
...One such sites is the Hill of Fangs, established by the Cult of Moander. The Abomonation's hilltop shrine consists of a ring of eight great red-stone plinths shaped like fangs curving inwards. The other shrines are dedicated to Garagos, Ghaunadaur, Jergal, Savras, Silvanus, and one deity whose name has been forgotten.


The only source I have that confirms this is the Azure Bonds novel. But I can't say the gods are "lost" (Silvanus is greater god).


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Cloak & Dagger web enhancement http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20010327d, pg 6 says the following:
Over time, the seven hillocks become known as the Shrines of the Seven Lost Gods, even though several of those faiths are still venerated in Westgate. (Curiously, the term ‘Seven Lost Gods’ has its roots in antiquity. It more properly refers to seven demipowers that bowed down before Bane long ago: Maram of the Great Spear, Haask the Voice of Hargut, Tyranthraxus the Flamed One, Borem of the Lake of Boiling Mud, Camnod the Unseen, and two whose names have been forgotten.)


Does someone know more about these Seven Lost Gods?

And wich of the two sources is correct?

Na-Gang
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Posted - 14 Oct 2008 :  12:53:34  Show Profile  Visit Na-Gang's Homepage Send Na-Gang a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Information on Haask, the Voice of Hargut can be found here: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/drrl/20071107a
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The Sage
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Posted - 14 Oct 2008 :  14:56:59  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Note that there are actually 2 sets of "Seven Lost Gods." The OLDER set includes Borem, Tyranthraxus, etc. Only five of that set are known. And there are only six known from the set you initially referenced.

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Tyranthraxus
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Posted - 14 Oct 2008 :  16:53:23  Show Profile  Visit Tyranthraxus's Homepage Send Tyranthraxus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Does that mean that the shrines of the "new" Seven Lost Gods are built on top of the "old" Seven Lost gods?
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Jamallo Kreen
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Posted - 16 Oct 2008 :  03:05:09  Show Profile  Visit Jamallo Kreen's Homepage Send Jamallo Kreen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You may want to search Candlekeep for "Seven Lost Gods" and the named gods individually; I posted scroll about Borem a couple of years ago, and I suspect that there are threads for other individuals among them.




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Jakk
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Posted - 18 Oct 2008 :  08:56:56  Show Profile Send Jakk a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tyranthraxus

Does that mean that the shrines of the "new" Seven Lost Gods are built on top of the "old" Seven Lost gods?



IIRC, the Seven Lost Gods of Westgate have nothing to do with the set of which Tyranthraxus is a part.

See the Realmslore article on www.wizards.com entitled "Ironfang Keep" (by Brian R. James, iirc) for more on Haask and the Dark Three (Bane, Bhaal, and Myrkul); slaying two or more of the Seven (Haask and Borem for sure, possibly all seven) was part of the Dark Three's quest for divinity, which took them north of the Moonsea.

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Edited by - Jakk on 18 Oct 2008 08:57:55
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