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lummoxybez
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Posted - 05 Oct 2008 :  10:23:02  Show Profile  Visit lummoxybez's Homepage Send lummoxybez a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
The FR campaign guide (3rd ed) states that no two powers in the same pantheon may have the same portfolio, yet I can see several examples of duplicated portfolios in the Faerunian pantheon list.
Is this simply an error on behalf of the writers or is it deliberate?

I wondered whether there was an element of shared-portfolios as a result of the Time of Troubles or not.

Also, did the non-Faerunian pantheons also suffer in the ToT? Was there an avatar of Lloth running around somewhere, or Blibdoolpoolp holding court in a ruined undersea temple?

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Posted - 05 Oct 2008 :  14:25:49  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Much of what you're seeing is an artefact of oversimplifying the nature of divine beings into half-dozen-word summaries. Also, lesser/subsidiary gods of divine groupings often likewise preside over particular aspects of larger areas. But we'd need to look at specific cases.

Yes, they were also sent down, see Tom Costa's accounting by copying and pasting this URL: http://web.archive.org/web/20060101225331/http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=books/fr/deitytrouble

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lummoxybez
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Posted - 05 Oct 2008 :  14:48:22  Show Profile  Visit lummoxybez's Homepage Send lummoxybez a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well a specific case (from the top of my head as I'm at work) would be that of Garagos and Tempus both having ownership of the portfolio of War.
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Faraer
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Posted - 05 Oct 2008 :  15:06:49  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There, it's the FRCS's comment about no two gods having the same portfolio that's an oversimplification. As discussed in Faiths & Avatars, there can be one primary god of something in a pantheon and theoretically any number of demigods. In this case, Tempus is thought to have fought Garagos and taken the status of primary war god of Faerūn, reducing Garagos to demigod rank.
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lummoxybez
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Posted - 05 Oct 2008 :  15:28:34  Show Profile  Visit lummoxybez's Homepage Send lummoxybez a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ah, I see.
Thanks for the help, and also for the link to the books site.
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Lord Karsus
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Posted - 07 Oct 2008 :  20:00:49  Show Profile Send Lord Karsus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
-I have a large list of Portfolios that have not been claimed, if anyone wants to see.

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I'd like to see that again, I've been working on some ideas for some pantheons, etc, and it might give me some thoughts.

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-I have a large list of Portfolios that have not been claimed, if anyone wants to see.


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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

I'd like to see that again, I've been working on some ideas for some pantheons, etc, and it might give me some thoughts.

quote:
Originally posted by Dagnirion

-I have a large list of Portfolios that have not been claimed, if anyone wants to see.



I wouldn't mind seeing this list also, Dagnirion.

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Posted - 08 Oct 2008 :  04:31:20  Show Profile Send Lord Karsus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
-In that case, HERE it is. And they say I don't live to serve...


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Thanks. At least now I can start comparing this to my own partial listings of portfolio-related details.

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Lord Karsus
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-Why can I never get the linking right...?


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You only missed the quotation marks around the actual URL. Everything else was right.

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-I'll get it one of these days, just you wait...

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