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Ardashir
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 Posted - 26 Sep 2008 : 00:50:12
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Hi all,
Just read about something called the Advanced Bestiary in one of the Pathfinder tomes. I was just wondering if anyone here had ever heard of it or knew where it could be found, as it sounds intriguing at the very least. Is it all new monsters, is it for 3/3.5 rather than 4th, what?
Thsnks for any help.
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Kuje
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Posted - 26 Sep 2008 : 01:49:46
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freyar
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Posted - 26 Sep 2008 : 12:54:01
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The Advanced Bestiary is a book of templates for 3.5e. If you want my recommendation, it is an excellent book! The templates are rated on a "difficulty scale" of 1-3, with templates rated 1 easy enough to apply in play as you go along. Many of the templates are quite creative, and there is also a big section on undead templates (more powerful versions of the MM undead, as well as instructions on how to make templates for the non-template MM undead). I don't remember other examples off-hand, but 2 of these templates appear in Pathfinder #2 (lifespark construct and dread ghast).
This is a d20 licensed book, which means it may not be available much longer. The d20 license has expired, so the book can only be sold past this Dec if Green Ronin goes through and removes some logos and text from all the copies. I don't think they're doing that, so get your copy now if you want it! Paizo might have it on clearance, and a PDF version should be on RPGNow. |
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Hawkins
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Posted - 26 Sep 2008 : 16:13:29
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Originally posted by freyar
This is a d20 licensed book, which means it may not be available much longer. The d20 license has expired, so the book can only be sold past this Dec if Green Ronin goes through and removes some logos and text from all the copies.
It may not be available much longer, but the d20 license has NOT expired. Once WotC gave it to us, through their own wording they cannot take it away. They just are no longer supporting it themselves. Companies can and are still making d20 system products for those of us who are choosing not to move onto 4th Edition. |
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 26 Sep 2008 : 16:24:17
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Originally posted by HawkinstheDM
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Originally posted by freyar
This is a d20 licensed book, which means it may not be available much longer. The d20 license has expired, so the book can only be sold past this Dec if Green Ronin goes through and removes some logos and text from all the copies.
It may not be available much longer, but the d20 license has NOT expired. Once WotC gave it to us, through their own wording they cannot take it away. They just are no longer supporting it themselves. Companies can and are still making d20 system products for those of us who are choosing not to move onto 4th Edition.
Indeed. As I understand it, so long as a company doesn't sign up to do 4E stuff, they are free to stick with older stuff as long as they want. It's only when they sign up for 4E that they have to stop doing older stuff. |
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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 26 Sep 2008 : 16:46:38
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The d20 liscense and OGL are two different things. Scott Rouse indicated that the d20 liscense, the actual ability to put the d20 logo on things, would expire "soon," though there has never really been any follow up on an exact date.
The Open Game License, which are the rules included in the SRD, cannot be revoked. Paizo, apparently very wisely, never used the d20 logo for any of their products and simply made the "OGL 3.5 Compatible."
Once the d20 System liscense is kaput, you have to get rid of your stock of anything with the d20 logo on it, but you could put it out again without the logo as a general OGL product, as long as you didn't sign up for Wizard's GSL for 4e with says you can't use the OGL anyomore "for the same product line," which worries a lot of companies for fear of what "product line" will be defined as. |
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Ardashir
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Posted - 26 Sep 2008 : 17:09:54
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Originally posted by freyar
This is a d20 licensed book, which means it may not be available much longer. The d20 license has expired, so the book can only be sold past this Dec if Green Ronin goes through and removes some logos and text from all the copies. I don't think they're doing that, so get your copy now if you want it! Paizo might have it on clearance, and a PDF version should be on RPGNow.
If worst comes to worst, I can probably get it on Amazon.
And thanks for all the recommendations, I'll put the effort into buying the tome. |
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freyar
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 27 Sep 2008 : 14:08:37
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
The d20 liscense and OGL are two different things. Scott Rouse indicated that the d20 liscense, the actual ability to put the d20 logo on things, would expire "soon," though there has never really been any follow up on an exact date.
The Open Game License, which are the rules included in the SRD, cannot be revoked. Paizo, apparently very wisely, never used the d20 logo for any of their products and simply made the "OGL 3.5 Compatible."
Once the d20 System liscense is kaput, you have to get rid of your stock of anything with the d20 logo on it, but you could put it out again without the logo as a general OGL product, as long as you didn't sign up for Wizard's GSL for 4e with says you can't use the OGL anyomore "for the same product line," which worries a lot of companies for fear of what "product line" will be defined as.
KEJR is correct here, just to clear things up. The d20 System License and the ability to use WotC's trademarked d20 logo (as well as text stating compatibility with 3e D&D) is/was revocable and has been revoked. Publishers have been given until Dec to stop selling books/PDFs with the d20 logo on it. Since the content of the books is covered by the non-revocable OGL, publishers could just cover the logos and offending text on hardcopies or remove them from PDFs and continue selling d20 products solely under the OGL. However, most publishers have decided that it's not worth the effort. That's why a lot of d20 books are on clearance (Paizo has a large clearance area in their web store). |
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Advanced Bestiary: what is this book?
