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Askanipsion
Acolyte
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 Posted - 25 Sep 2008 : 01:17:07
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I have the "official" description on who Angharradh really is in 4E as I asked both Rich Baker and Bruce Cordell. Here is what I said and Bruce's reply:
Askanipsion said...
Hiya Bruce
I recently asked a question to Rich Baker on the WOTC forums. He wasn't sure about the answer but suggested I ask you. So here is my question that I wondered if you could please help me with.
I was wondering if you could explain the 4E version of Angharradh. In older editions, she was formed when 3 goddesses merged. Now that 2 of the goddesses have been revealed to actually be Sune and Akadi, who is Angharradh??
Is she still 3 goddesses merged or a single minded entity? Could she be the moon-less aspect of Sehanine?
Thanks Bruce!
- Askanipsion
Bruce said...
To the extent Angharradh remains an active presence, she is a manifestation of these goddesses (Selune, Sune, and Akadi; primordial in Akadi's case) and their mutual adoration for Corellon and love of the elven people. She hasn't been seen much lately, however ;-).
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So what is Angharradh up to? Why hasn't she been seen much lately?? I was kinda hoping she was just Sehanine who shed her moon domain to Selune.
Oh well.....
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
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Posted - 25 Sep 2008 : 04:02:26
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I had, a while back, posited that Corellon might have been a powerful member of the Seelie court in ages long past, and that his rivalry with Grummsh actually dated back to Grummsh being a general of the Queen of Air and Darkness' in the Unseelie Court. Garen and Erik's comments about Corellon's heart and who stole what reminded me of some aspects of that train of thought . . .
My theory, back then, was that Corellon might have been a typical Seelie noble, not evil, maybe even kind of good, but not concerned about the mortal realms or the grand scheme of things, until he had a tryst with Morwel of the Eladrin Court, and she introduced him to the larger concerns of the fledgling mortal souls in the universe, and of the conflict between Good and Evil, and it changed his perspective.
(As an aside, Corellon gave birth to the elves when some of his Sidhe died in battle with Grummsh's minions, and his tears brought them back to life as elves . . . Grummsh had Shargass steal some of the souls of the dead and he used them to breathe life into the dead corpses of the Sidhe of the battlefield, and thus the orcs were born . . . but I digress)
Anyway, it keeps nagging at me that my theory about Morwel and Corellon and Corellon's transition from a Seelie noble to a god, and the exodus of his followers from the Seelie court has to be able to be wrapped into the current scheme of things, but I just can't find the right "bridge" to explain it and make it all fall into place.
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 25 Sep 2008 : 04:04:42
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Originally posted by Garen Thal
Not to spoil the lovely mood created by everyone's praise (which is, frankly, a tiny bit overwhelming), I'd like to pose a couple of questions of my own:
1) Given the existing lore (3E AND 4E), what might folks have done differently?
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2) What questions do you have about the state of the Seldarine in 1479DR that weren't adequately addressed by the Musing?
I'd still like to see some of the lesser Seldarine gods addressed, but I realize that they might still be mentioned in some other capacity. Then again, I'm a fan of some of the extended Seldarine from the 2nd edition Dragon articles on the subject. |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Posted - 25 Sep 2008 : 04:50:36
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Fascinating stuff, KEJR--I wonder if you and I couldn't trade emails on the subject and play around with it?
Email me!
quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
Garen and Erik's comments about Corellon's heart and who stole what reminded me of some aspects of that train of thought . . .
Who, me? Was it the Lolth thing? 'Cuz that was totally a joke. (hail Lolth!)
quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
I'd still like to see some of the lesser Seldarine gods addressed, but I realize that they might still be mentioned in some other capacity. Then again, I'm a fan of some of the extended Seldarine from the 2nd edition Dragon articles on the subject.
Well, I happen to be a big Erevan Ilesere fan, so given the opportunity . . . 
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Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 25 Sep 2008 : 04:58:01
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| Heh, I'm doing my job and someone else's at work this week, as well as running a Pathfinder Society Event tomorrow, but once things calm down a bit this weekend, I'll certainly be sending you an e-mail. |
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Thalos_Milathriel
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 30 Sep 2008 : 03:06:30
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Nicely done. I look forward to more whenever you have time to post it.
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Jakk
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 30 Sep 2008 : 03:53:21
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| Speaking as a dedicated fan of the pre-Spellplague Realms, with about as much inertia as a galactic-core black hole, this is the first post-Spellplague lore I've read about *changes* (completely "new" things such as Returned Abeir, etc. aside) that actually makes coherent sense. I wish I had more time to comment, but I need to eat. Now. :) |
Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.
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Brimstone
Great Reader
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Posted - 16 Nov 2008 : 08:37:59
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-This is good stuff. 
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"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Monday Musings 9/22: Angharradh and the Seldarine
