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jordanz
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 Posted - 17 Sep 2008 : 18:51:08
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into the forgotton realms?Aside from Dieties, is this type of thing forbidden due to some sort of copyright infringement. I would love to see this as I think there is a lot of story potential there. I would love to see the Circle of Eight meet the Seven sisters...or Elminster meet Mordenkainen...
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
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Posted - 17 Sep 2008 : 18:58:59
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| There were a bunch of Dragon articles (written, if I'm not mistaken, by our Ed of the Greenwood) where El and Mordenkainen got together to swap spells (How else does Bigby's Interposing Hand get to the Realms). But nothing in the literature or sourcebooks. |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 17 Sep 2008 : 19:06:20
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Mordenkainen, Bigby and Tsunroon the Traveler are three mages of Oerth who've visited Toril, and there's been much other traffic between the worlds, in which many spells (including those of Otiluke, Tenser, etc.) have crossed over, Khelben the Younger settled in the Flanaess, Mordenkainen and Vangerdahast competed for a woman, Elminster and Mordenkainen have met several times in Ed Greenwood's house (Dragon's "Wizard Three" articles), and so on.quote:
Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart
But nothing in the literature or sourcebooks.
There are many such references in the sourcebooks. (The Seven Sisters even excerpts "Once more the three".) |
Edited by - Faraer on 17 Sep 2008 19:14:30 |
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Ashe Ravenheart
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
2131 Posts |
Posted - 17 Sep 2008 : 20:29:55
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| The main character in the The Cloakmaster Cycle begins in Greyhawk and then travels via spelljammer to Toril and other Crystal Spheres. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 17 Sep 2008 : 22:47:41
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The real Khelben Arunson lives in Greyhawk (city).
He is the Grandson of The Blackstaff, who left Toril so that his Grandfather could take his Grandson's identity, in order to obfuscate the truth about how old he really is.
So the woman who everyone think's is Khelben' Blackstaff's mother is really his daughter.
There was also a Kender that visited Toril (can't remember the novel), and an Elven Vampire that traveled from Toril to Ravenloft (and beyond). Although the OP was concerned with connections between Toril and Oerth, one must remember that the crux of the demiplane of Dread - Ravenloft itself - originated on Oerth (Greyhawk). |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 18 Sep 2008 : 01:36:26
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Originally posted by HawkinstheDM
The main character in the The Cloakmaster Cycle begins in Greyhawk and then travels via spelljammer to Toril and other Crystal Spheres.
Actually, no. Teldin Moore comes from Ansalon, on Krynn. And the series itself starts on Krynn too. Teldin then travels to Toril, and other Crystal Spheres in the following "Cloakmaster Cycle" books.  |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 18 Sep 2008 : 01:40:11
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Originally posted by Markustay
There was also a Kender that visited Toril (can't remember the novel),...
Emilio Haversack, in the novel Tymora's Luck. And Brian conveniently dropped a reference to that event in GHotR, plus, we got another reference [in that entry] about Sigil too. 
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... and an Elven Vampire that traveled from Toril to Ravenloft (and beyond).
Jander Sunstar, Vampire of the Mists. |
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Brian R. James
Forgotten Realms Game Designer
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Posted - 18 Sep 2008 : 04:55:51
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Originally posted by The Sage
Emilio Haversack, in the novel Tymora's Luck. And Brian conveniently dropped a reference to that event in GHotR, plus, we got another reference [in that entry] about Sigil too.
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
2131 Posts |
Posted - 18 Sep 2008 : 16:39:37
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by HawkinstheDM
The main character in the The Cloakmaster Cycle begins in Greyhawk and then travels via spelljammer to Toril and other Crystal Spheres.
Actually, no. Teldin Moore comes from Ansalon, on Krynn. And the series itself starts on Krynn too. Teldin then travels to Toril, and other Crystal Spheres in the following "Cloakmaster Cycle" books.
That's right. Thanks for the correction. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 22 Sep 2008 : 03:29:13
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I wasn't aware of the reference until someone else (I believe it was my senile old friend, who is now absent from these halls) pointed it out, but there's a Nehwon ghoul mentioned in Code of the Harpers.  |
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Big Mac
Acolyte
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Posted - 14 May 2011 : 12:02:51
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Originally posted by Hawkins
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by HawkinstheDM
The main character in the The Cloakmaster Cycle begins in Greyhawk and then travels via spelljammer to Toril and other Crystal Spheres.
Actually, no. Teldin Moore comes from Ansalon, on Krynn. And the series itself starts on Krynn too. Teldin then travels to Toril, and other Crystal Spheres in the following "Cloakmaster Cycle" books.
That's right. Thanks for the correction.
There is another character in the Cloakmaster Cycle novels, that hails from Oerth, but I can't recall exactly who they are. I'm not sure if they were one of the crew onboard The Probe, when it landed on Toril.
Aelfred Silverhorn (First Mate on The Probe) signed on in Westgate, so is a Forgotten Realms/Spelljammer crossover character. I thought he was the character from Greyhawk, but a flick of Into the Void showed me I was wrong.
I don't think enough was done to create crossover links from Greyhawk. I think that is sad, but perhaps the awful Greyhawk novels by Rose E. made TSR think that references to Greyhawk was something that would drag down other projects. That could be why the Greyhawk based novel Nightwatch, was not promoted as a Greyhawk novel. |
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 14 May 2011 : 13:18:44
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As noted, this spell [Khelben's warding whip] was developed by Khelben Arunsun, the Blackstaff of Waterdeep, as a specific counter to the various Bigby spells which have appeared in the Realms. Whether the mythical Bigby of Greyhawk visited the Realms or Khelben or some other Realmsmage visited Oerth to bring these spells from one world to another is not known. As the wizard of Waterdeep once noted to his apprentice Illistar, "The old goat comes up with one good gimmick, and beats it to death with a rock." Bigby's response, if any, has never been recorded.
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Lord Karsus
Great Reader
USA
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Shemmy
Senior Scribe
USA
492 Posts |
Posted - 15 May 2011 : 18:22:39
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| Duke Rowan Darkwood, Factol of the Fated from Planescape was born on Oerth, but after a 10 year imprisonment in Baator, finding his family moved on and assuming his death, he reinvented and made a name for himself on FR (during the time of the Zhengyi). |
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Marc
Senior Scribe
662 Posts |
Posted - 16 May 2011 : 19:56:20
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Alystra Illianniis
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have any characters from Greyhawk crossed over
