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Mythander
Learned Scribe
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 Posted - 11 Jul 2003 : 16:00:29
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I was wondering, what is everyone's favorite supporting character in a FR Novel? (they can be a main character of a short story but not of a full novel). I think that I myself have to go with Mirt, Merciless or Moneylender.
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Edited by - Mythander on 11 Jul 2003 16:01:46
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Bellua Aeneus Lacerta
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 11 Jul 2003 : 16:43:42
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Oo-Oo, Ivan and Pikel, for sure!
And the imp in the Cleric Quintet. |
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Mythander
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 11 Jul 2003 : 17:04:49
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Agreed, Salvator has some of the best supporting Characters. I cannot count the amount of times Ivan and Pikel made me laugh in that series. |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
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Posted - 11 Jul 2003 : 19:47:08
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| Elaith Craulnober and Jarlaxle. |
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Mythander
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 11 Jul 2003 : 21:42:58
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Originally posted by Bookwyrm
Elaith Craulnober and Jarlaxle.
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Mournblade
Master of Realmslore
USA
1287 Posts |
Posted - 12 Jul 2003 : 00:29:59
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Daryth from Darkwalker on Moonshae (Drizzt's prototype)
Princess Alusair
Quenthel Baenre ( I really really Love her) (have her on my desk top as well:) (cover of Insurrection)
AH YES DARYTH the Calisham man (Avoiding swearing) from Darkwalker on Moonshae.
INCIDENTALLY Daryth is who DRIZZT is based off of. Salvatore wanted to write a series of novels about Daryth, but he died in the book. So TSR gave him the idea of a Dark Elf. RA salvatore kept the scimatars though.
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Mournblade
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 12 Jul 2003 : 00:31:15
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Originally posted by Bellua Aeneus Lacerta
Oo-Oo, Ivan and Pikel, for sure!
And the imp in the Cleric Quintet.
Druzil.
Oh yeah I like Danika too.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
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Posted - 12 Jul 2003 : 07:52:13
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Originally posted by Mournblade
TSR gave him the idea of a Dark Elf.
Salvatore said that he had thought up that himself. |
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The Sage
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
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Posted - 12 Jul 2003 : 09:26:23
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It's in his forward to the Dark Elf Trilogy (Collecter's Edition). He talks about how he thought up the character on a moment's notice. Drizzt was also originally a sidekick to Wulfgar, but when he actually started writing, he realized Drizzt was the main character. That's why he wrote the Dark Elf trilogy in the first place; he wanted to learn where this character had come from.
(And if it sounds weird to hear of an author wanting to learn more about a character (s)he created, then you aren't an author yourself. Sometimes stories and characters take on a whole life of their own. I think that's where the myth of the muse came from; sometimes it feels like it's not really you writing, that you're just a channel for the story to come out.) |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 12 Jul 2003 : 09:45:52
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Figures  . I purchased the collector's edition several months ago, but since I had already read the trilogy in single book format, I never really bothered to read through the collected edition. I simply placed it on my over-populated shelf and really didn't think about it...until now.
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The Sage
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Posted - 12 Jul 2003 : 09:47:32
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Although this is similar to the story about the 'Cleric Quintet' which was originally supposed to be about a 1e Monk character, but was then changed to represent the cleric class in the novels.
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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 12 Jul 2003 : 09:55:39
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| Well, take it out and read the begining. There's a foreward by Ed Greenwood, and after that is the one by Salvatore. Both are interesting. |
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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 12 Jul 2003 : 09:58:52
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| I never got the CQ Collecter's Edition. Does it have a similar about-the-story forward? |
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The Sage
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The Sage
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Posted - 12 Jul 2003 : 10:13:52
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Yes it does. It basically states that RAS was originally asked to publish a trilogy based on a 1e monk character. But as the story idea progressed 1e changed and became AD&D 2e. Since there were no monk character classes, the story's main character had to be changed. TSR decided to go with a cleric, but RAS was unsure since he had never really played a cleric character class before. The number of books in the story was also changed from 3 to 5. There is more, but this is the basic theme of the forward.
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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 12 Jul 2003 : 10:21:57
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| Ah. Maybe someone should do a novel on a monk, now that they're back. I think we've had everyone else as a main character -- even excluding the characters like Drizzt who are heavily multiclassed. |
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The Sage
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The Sage
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Posted - 12 Jul 2003 : 10:38:21
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Actually since the short story in Halls of Stormweather about the opera by Guerren Bloodquill, I have been toying with the idea of writing a story myself based on sinister musical works penned by an evil Bard. Taking into consideration my nearly-capable classical music training and the minor piano solo I once wrote and performed at school, this would at first appear to be an easy task, but finding the right essence for the character is where the magic really works .
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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 12 Jul 2003 : 10:38:28
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| Right, I forgot the druid. The 3e bard's also a good choice. Another thing would be something based around a particular prestige class. Or a particular template -- like the half-dragon. That one would be interesting. A bit hard to do, though. |
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The Sage
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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 12 Jul 2003 : 10:41:49
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| That's a good idea. I've been curious about the idea of evil bards and monks. They're less obvious than other evil characters. An evil druid would also be somewhat interesting. |
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The Sage
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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 12 Jul 2003 : 10:44:53
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PrC are a good idea, but considering the multitudes of classes published, the real difficulty would be in deciding which one to use.
Well, personally, I've taken a liking to the Duelist PrC, ever since I read the description. It would make for an interesting character. |
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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 12 Jul 2003 : 10:45:53
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Indeed.  |
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The Sage
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Posted - 12 Jul 2003 : 10:54:37
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I like to see a Ghostwalker PrC in a novel, or maybe even something along the lines of a True Necromancer. But as I said before, there are simply so many to choose from, that I could never really hit upon one that stands above the rest.
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The Sage
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Posted - 12 Jul 2003 : 11:00:05
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Keeping in line with this scroll though, I think that there are some interesting PrC possibilities that could be useful as supporting characters, or even as antagonists. For example the Aglarondan Griffonrider PrC could be useful for a novel based in Aglarond, or the Thayan Slaver, for a novel based in Thay.
A group of Peerless Archer's would have been useful in the events surrounding the attacks on Evereska, while an Illithid Savant could work well in an Underdark novel.
Many interesting possibilities...
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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 12 Jul 2003 : 11:02:31
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| True. Most of them either don't stand out well enough or they simply aren't suited for a main character in a novel. For instance, the Drunken Master PrC stands out -- rather prominantly. But I don't think it would be good for a main character. A sidekick, yes -- I can imagine the crusty, drunken, down-on-his luck monk catching the eye of a young, inexperienced hero-type. That would work, as long as you keep a safe distance from the associated cliches. But it wouldn't work in the opposite direction. |
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The Sage
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Posted - 12 Jul 2003 : 11:19:17
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I have never really put much faith in the usefulness of the Druken Master PrC. In fact I have always gone out of my way to prevent my players from choosing it. The only way I have ever considered using something like this is, as an NPC for the party when they enter an inn or tavern, and the resident drunk, challenges a member of the party to a duel for some imagined alcohol induced insult.
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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 12 Jul 2003 : 11:39:05
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Same here. It seems to me to be a PrC made for an NPC.
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Favorite Supporting Characters
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