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Pandora
Learned Scribe
Germany
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 Posted - 19 Sep 2008 : 18:58:59
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Iliphar1
I had a look at the 4th edition CS.
After reading it, it convinced me not to change to 4th edition. That is just ridiculous, what has happened with the realms???
Can anybody explain me, what they are doing to my beloved realms???
I would suggest you perform a search of Candlekeep for scrolls specifically dedicated to elaborate 4e FR chatter.
Off topic, but maybe a good suggestion: It might be worth to sum up the changes of:
a) 3e -> 4e and
b) 3e FR -> 4e FR and maybe even ...
c) 3e -> Pathfinder.
in one thread (each a separate topic) and stick that somewhere for easy referencing. Obviously the changes have been too big to describe in detail. This needs to be done by someone who has some experience in both systems and is able to describe it without judging it and obviously it needs to be locked to prevent it becoming yet another system discussion. |
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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
1120 Posts |
Posted - 19 Sep 2008 : 22:20:54
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Originally posted by EytanBernstein
There will be a bladesinger soon enough. I promise :)
Wow, that“s very good!!!
Thanks, Eytan!
Only one question? It“s Realms related, or Core related? (ok, in 4th Edition this don“t matter much, but I want to know, anyway)  |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31727 Posts |
Posted - 20 Sep 2008 : 01:46:55
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Originally posted by Pandora
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Iliphar1
I had a look at the 4th edition CS.
After reading it, it convinced me not to change to 4th edition. That is just ridiculous, what has happened with the realms???
Can anybody explain me, what they are doing to my beloved realms???
I would suggest you perform a search of Candlekeep for scrolls specifically dedicated to elaborate 4e FR chatter.
Off topic, but maybe a good suggestion: It might be worth to sum up the changes of:
a) 3e -> 4e and
b) 3e FR -> 4e FR and maybe even ...
c) 3e -> Pathfinder.
in one thread (each a separate topic) and stick that somewhere for easy referencing. Obviously the changes have been too big to describe in detail. This needs to be done by someone who has some experience in both systems and is able to describe it without judging it and obviously it needs to be locked to prevent it becoming yet another system discussion.
I have thought about this. But it's just finding the time to sit down and sift through all the various scrolls in an attempt to collect all the significant info. I don't have the time at the moment, unfortunately. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36798 Posts |
Posted - 22 Sep 2008 : 05:08:25
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Originally posted by Alisttair
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Originally posted by Steven Schend
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Originally posted by Ranak
Paragon Paths:
Silverstar
Is this a class for the tel'Teukiira? Silverstar is an alternate name for their group, so I wondered.....
Steven
Unfortunately no. These are followers of Selūne.
And it's a name that dates back at least as far as early 3E material. One of my Lords of Waterdeep (Terielle Nashirn, the werecat thief-turned-priestess of Selūne, covered in the Candlekeep Compendium, Volume V) is a member of this PrC. As I recall, it appeared in Dragon first, and then in the PGtF. |
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Zanan
Senior Scribe
Germany
942 Posts |
Posted - 26 Sep 2008 : 23:08:12
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Originally posted by EytanBernstein
There will be a bladesinger soon enough. I promise :)
Oh yes. All that was needed! Another go at the old D&D Elven Fighter/Mage concept. One swordmage is not enough ... given that loads of other stuff will remain uncovered. Of course, they'd done that to death with classes and prestige classes in 3E, no wonder it will be done in 4E too.
On a sidenote, regarding the new Paragon Paths a.k.a. "prestige classes" ... are those 6 things and the name all that you get along the 10 levels then? HD/level based normal stuff aside? |
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Skeptic
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1273 Posts |
Posted - 26 Sep 2008 : 23:34:14
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Originally posted by Zanan
On a sidenote, regarding the new Paragon Paths a.k.a. "prestige classes" ... are those 6 things and the name all that you get along the 10 levels then? HD/level based normal stuff aside?
PPs are not PrCs, there are add-ons, not class replacement.
Same goes for Epic Destinies.
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Christopher_Rowe
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Posted - 26 Sep 2008 : 23:48:09
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Originally posted by Zanan
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On a sidenote, regarding the new Paragon Paths a.k.a. "prestige classes" ... are those 6 things and the name all that you get along the 10 levels then? HD/level based normal stuff aside?
We're mainly using them as role-playing concepts. But in terms of stats and powers and so on, I guess. Of course, in 4E, everything's kind of interconnected so you can't necessarily predict how different powers and feats and so on are going to interact with one another unless you sit down to do "builds" or whatever (which isn't really my groups cuppa). So I suppose it's possible there's more than meets the eye in terms of what "you get" when you choose a Paragon Path.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 28 Sep 2008 : 23:11:03
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Originally posted by Skeptic
PPs are not PrCs...
Have I ever mentioned here how much I LOVE the term "PP"?
Anyway, it's true that PPs (*snicker*!) and EDs aren't technically classes, but they kind of act as a 4E equivalent of the old prestige classes (and kits, for that matter). |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36798 Posts |
Posted - 29 Sep 2008 : 00:15:07
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Originally posted by Skeptic
PPs are not PrCs...
Have I ever mentioned here how much I LOVE the term "PP"?
Anyway, it's true that PPs (*snicker*!) and EDs aren't technically classes, but they kind of act as a 4E equivalent of the old prestige classes (and kits, for that matter).
Which -- kits or PrCs? Kits were essentially bolt-ons, while PrCs were actual class variants. |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 29 Sep 2008 : 23:55:43
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Which -- kits or PrCs?
Both, I think. But that's just how I see it. Just to be clear, I was using the term "equivalent" loosely, if that makes any sense. |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
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Diffan
Great Reader
USA
4436 Posts |
Posted - 19 Aug 2009 : 03:13:08
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So since the last post, EytanBernstein said that the Bladesinger will be out soon for 4e. Well, we've already had our Arcane Powers book come out and there won't be another one til 2010. So what gives?
As a side note, in the Monster Manual 2, there is an eladrin bladesinger featured so I hope that wasn't what he was mentioning.
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 19 Aug 2009 : 03:34:04
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Originally posted by Diffan
So since the last post, EytanBernstein said that the Bladesinger will be out soon for 4e. Well, we've already had our Arcane Powers book come out and there won't be another one til 2010. So what gives?
As a side note, in the Monster Manual 2, there is an eladrin bladesinger featured so I hope that wasn't what he was mentioning.
Diffan, you may want to ask Eytan on this scroll. |
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Kiaransalyn
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
762 Posts |
Posted - 19 Aug 2009 : 09:13:55
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Originally posted by Ranak
They switched to a thinner paper, even though it is the same 160 page length as some 3E books, it feels and looks incredibly thin.
Damn! So you can't even use it as emergency toilet paper. |
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